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I joined runescape while all this was happeneing, a little noob in lumbridge. Took me 3 days to get back to lumby once because i got lost near falador. :wall: NO home tele then. Game just isnt that same the way it used to be.

 

 

 

And you could have spent those three days doing something more productive, like killing trees. The home tele has saved my butt many a time - whether because I forgot something or just needed a teleport away from monsters.

 

 

 

True, it isn't the same, but as it is said, the only thing that doesn't change is the fact that things change.

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I joined runescape while all this was happeneing, a little noob in lumbridge. Took me 3 days to get back to lumby once because i got lost near falador. :wall: NO home tele then. Game just isnt that same the way it used to be.

 

Yeah, it's a shame that Jagex updated the game to help save people like you from their massive incompetence.

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^^^No, your just stupid enough not to realize you are trying to start a forum based religion.

 

 

 

. Waste your life away by PMing me and pointlessly arguing on THAT thread if you want.

 

 

 

Since when has a PM been a thread.

 

 

 

And if you want to stop the pointless arguing, then why not quit posting???

 

 

 

Why should I quit posting because of some [wagon] who follows people around making pointless posts?

 

 

 

Fine, I'll rephrase. You can waste your life away by PMing me about that thread or argue about that thread on THAT thread, not on other threads.

 

 

 

You're really idiotic to think I'm trying to create a new forum-based religion, because I'm not. :roll: Since when?

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What compfreak meant (I believe; it's awfully hard to remember this old thread) was that you won't be AS mature as when your lobes fully develop around age twenty-five. Your post can be mature now, but it's only behavior-wise, and even that should improve with physical development. For instance, at eighteen, every time I look even as little as a few months into my past I realize that I could've handle situations better, et cetera. Technically I'm an adult, but I've only attained approximately 73% maturity in my frontal lobes.

 

 

 

Yes, you get more mature as you grow older, but that doesn't mean a 10-year-old is always less mature than someone else who is 25.

 

 

 

Let's measure maturity with percentages for convenience - this is all hypothetical. At 10-years-old you are 30%. At 20-years-old you are 50%. You became more mature. However, not everyone is going to be exactly the same. Someone else might be 20-years-old but only have the maturity level of 15%. Which means that the 10-year-old is more mature than the 20-year-old. Comp said that 10-year-old's cannot be as psychologically mature as people older than them, which is untrue because of the simple fact that we're all different.

 

 

 

Honestly, just cut your crap and admit that what you wrote was spam. How does saying "the forum god speaks!" or something along the lines help the thread? Not-so-constructive criticism and a waste of time and space.

 

 

 

How does this:

 

 

 

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i actually started rs in 2001 or 2002, dont remember. IT WAS WAY BETTER BACK THEN!

 

 

 

yea sure, i got scammed few times in the start of my rs career, but i learnt. Most non-[developmentally delayed]ed people didnt get scammed more than one time in the wildy for example. And how much did you lose? full bronze? full iron? full STEEL?

 

 

 

free trade limit? was a pretty damn good thing. Whenever your friends were quitting, they normally arranged a drop party FOR THEIR FRIENDS, not for the whole damn runescape. Also you could help your friends or anyone in need by just giving them cash, or scamming idiots. Not like the REAL LIFE IS SCAM FREE. What does this game teach children? You get warned everytime before you enter a potentially dangerous place? You cant get scammed when buying some items?

 

 

 

Hell, i admit scamming tons of people in the wildy, but seriously if you are stupid enough to believe some random guy asking you to follow him deep into the wilderness with your best gear --> you die = you deserve it. It was easy money, just like 26k tricking now, the only difference was that the scamming didnt work 100%.

 

 

 

Sure, botters were bad, but with a few good ideas and some IT nerds im sure they could have gotten rid of those.

 

 

 

I also remember those great wars in wildy, most unforgettable was a war between Finland and sweden in the wildy lvl +40. Hundreds of players from both sides, just fighting against each other. And when you killed someone, you actually knew that you were gonna get loot.

 

 

 

Luring? You and ur team is waiting on some hill while your friend is running around green drags, skulled with a phat/santa, waiting for some idiot to skull on him, and just run to his team and let them finnish the greedy guy who took the risk of being killed, just to get a valuable item, which would have been item protected anyway.

 

 

 

Doing treasure trails wildy clue was actually dangerous, these days you just have to wear d hide, and take some food.

 

 

 

Hah, it was simply fun to kill green drag farmers who didnt even give that much loot.

 

 

 

 

 

Its a FACT, that the game has developed alot, mostly favoring kids, or just stupid people. Making sure that they wouldnt quit so easily just because they got killed because they're as dumb as a rock. Most people just say ''stop whining, live with it.'' I am living with it, but doesnt mean i cant say i miss the GOOD OLD TIMES, and think that rs was imo better then than it is now.

 

 

 

Sure the kids like rs now, but you never know, it could be that they would've liked it even more, if it hadnt been changed so much.

 

 

 

These days pking is NOTHING compared to what it was. Thats the biggest thing I miss.

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Hell, i admit scamming tons of people in the wildy, but seriously if you are stupid enough to believe some random guy asking you to follow him deep into the wilderness with your best gear --> you die = you deserve it. It was easy money, just like 26k tricking now, the only difference was that the scamming didnt work 100%.

 

 

 

If you don't wear a seat belt, do you deserve to die? If a girl walks down a dark alley, does she deserve to be raped? Yeah, it might be their fault for not taking the proper precautions but that doesn't necessarily mean the consequences are warranted. And it's definitely no excuse for selfishness.

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Hell, i admit scamming tons of people in the wildy, but seriously if you are stupid enough to believe some random guy asking you to follow him deep into the wilderness with your best gear --> you die = you deserve it. It was easy money, just like 26k tricking now, the only difference was that the scamming didnt work 100%.

 

 

 

Just for those of you who use the argument that mainly scammers/rwt'ers hate the trade limits.

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i didnt trade scam, i killed people in the wild. And scamming being: me: ''join my team, lets go deep into the wild with good gear''

 

 

 

If you go with a random guy while risking all you have, who do you blame if you get killed?

 

 

 

 

 

Nobody deserves to get raped, but if your a girl, follow a strange guy to some place, your not that smart. If a girl decides to go to a DANGEROUS PLACE where theres a high % that something bad will happen to her, just for the excitement, who is she to blame if she gets hurt?

 

And besides, comparing real lifes things like raping / walking in dark alleys to a game/wilderness, where the point is to kill or get killed, is kinda stupid.

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i didnt trade scam, i killed people in the wild. And scamming being: me: ''join my team, lets go deep into the wild with good gear''

 

 

 

Which really doesn't make a difference. They're both scams.

 

 

 

If you go with a random guy while risking all you have, who do you blame if you get killed?

 

 

 

Yourself and the random guy are to blame, but whether you deserved it or not is an entirely different issue.

 

 

 

Nobody deserves to get raped, but if your a girl, follow a strange guy to some place, your not that smart.

 

And besides, comparing real lifes things like raping / walking in dark alleys to a game/wilderness, where the point is to kill or get killed, is kinda stupid.

 

 

 

By telling me that, you're pretty much saying the gaming world is a haven for immorality. Morality does exist in video games, because the players are real people. Just because something is virtual doesn't mean you're free to do whatever the hell you want. Real bank accounts are virtual representations too. I do think rape and death are a lot worse than getting some RS items stolen, but that doesn't automatically mean that stealing someone's RS items are okay.

 

 

 

It's funny when people try to justify doing bad things. :lol:

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w/e, i cant be bothered to argue with people who obviously have always had good intentions in rs. =)

 

 

 

the fact just is that in a video game you will probably take advantage of people who arent as smart as you. Try playing some other competitive games ''fairly'' :D

 

 

 

And besides, most pkers have done alot of luring which can be also called scamming, thats what i did, lured, or scammed if you will.

 

 

 

 

 

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R.I.P. old rs!

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i joined in 2005 and i remember gettin lost in falador and i had a person makin fun of me cos i didnt know where i was goin.. then 2 years later i saw him agen and i was a higher level LMAO x

 

 

 

But bah then i used mining smithing and crafting to make money, as i was goin to my brother earlier its so easy to make money now with the stronghold security wiv the free 20k! lol, i was blessed if i had 20k when i started lol x

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i actually started rs in 2001 or 2002, dont remember. IT WAS WAY BETTER BACK THEN!*sigh* Yet another one saying that. Let's see what he uses to back it up.

 

 

 

yea sure, i got scammed few times in the start of my rs career, but i learnt. Most non-[developmentally delayed] people didnt get scammed more than one time in the wildy for example. And how much did you lose? full bronze? full iron? full STEEL?The loss is not measured by the money lost, but by what the loss meant to its previous owner. That siad, they removed wildy because of excessive RWT, not scacmmers.

 

 

 

free trade limit? was a pretty damn good thing. Whenever your friends were quitting, they normally arranged a drop party FOR THEIR FRIENDS, not for the whole damn runescape. Also you could help your friends or anyone in need by just giving them cash, or scamming idiots. Not like the REAL LIFE IS SCAM FREE. What does this game teach children? You get warned everytime before you enter a potentially dangerous place? You cant get scammed when buying some items?Free trade was just another chance for scamming and RWT. As for the drop party thing, if they're quitting, why should they even care where the items that they supposedly don't care about any more go? And it's a game, not real life. Kids are supposed to be educated about that from their parents, teachers, etc. Not some game.

 

 

 

Hell, i admit scamming tons of people in the wildy, but seriously if you are stupid enough to believe some random guy asking you to follow him deep into the wilderness with your best gear --> you die = you deserve it. It was easy money, just like 26k tricking now, the only difference was that the scamming didnt work 100%.Oh, so THAT'S why you're complaining. You can't scam people anymore. Boohoo. Go earn some money honestly.

 

 

 

Sure, botters were bad, but with a few good ideas and some IT nerds im sure they could have gotten rid of those.One of the only points I even partially agree with.

 

 

 

I also remember those great wars in wildy, most unforgettable was a war between Finland and sweden in the wildy lvl +40. Hundreds of players from both sides, just fighting against each other. And when you killed someone, you actually knew that you were gonna get loot.They still have wars in wildy and PvP worlds. What game have YOU been playing?

 

 

 

Luring? You and ur team is waiting on some hill while your friend is running around green drags, skulled with a phat/santa, waiting for some idiot to skull on him, and just run to his team and let them finnish the greedy guy who took the risk of being killed, just to get a valuable item, which would have been item protected anyway.Oh, because robbing the unwary is more virtuous than greed. :roll:

 

 

 

Doing treasure trails wildy clue was actually dangerous, these days you just have to wear d hide, and take some food.Yeah, good luck with that when you get piled by 3 rev orks, a rev knight, and the Chaos Elemental.

 

 

 

Hah, it was simply fun to kill green drag farmers who didnt even give that much loot.Whoo, more instance of robbing people unfairly! You must have been/are a real jerk.

 

 

 

 

 

Its a FACT, that the game has developed alot, mostly favoring kids, or just stupid people. Making sure that they wouldnt quit so easily just because they got killed because they're as dumb as a rock. Most people just say ''stop whining, live with it.'' I am living with it, but doesnt mean i cant say i miss the GOOD OLD TIMES, and think that rs was imo better then than it is now.It wasn't better, it was just easier to exploit other people and get stuff unfairly. That and the fact that a large amount of their paying player base is little kids, and with updates, they want to upset as little of the player base as possible. Thus, they make updates catered towards the larger part of the player base, so that they don't lose money by having too many people quit.

 

 

 

Sure the kids like rs now, but you never know, it could be that they would've liked it even more, if it hadnt been changed so much. Basically, they would've been turned into jerks like you.

 

 

 

These days pking is NOTHING compared to what it was. Thats the biggest thing I miss.NOTHING?!? ROFL! You have worlds where you can kill anyone, practically anywhere, and you're complaining about it? Sure, you don't get whatever they were carrying, but if they were risking as if they wanted EP or a kill, then you have a good chance of getting some decent loot.

 

 

 

This guy is just another person complaining because he can't take advantage of people's stupidity. That, and combined with the fact that all of these updates were over a year ago, I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell everyone else whining about this stuff: If you're still complaining about it, the LEAVE. Your whining won't be missed, and all you're doing now is being a thorn in the side of the RS community.

 

 

 

Post-butchering over.

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I've played since November 2001. This "story" is a load of [cabbage]. Lol. That's really all I can say. What's wrong with Third Age being the fabled armor instead of Rune. What's wrong with Combat being the profitable skills instead of Mining\Smithing. Are you saying you liked fatigue?

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I've played since November 2001. This "story" is a load of [cabbage]. Lol. That's really all I can say. What's wrong with Third Age being the fabled armor instead of Rune. What's wrong with Combat being the profitable skills instead of Mining\Smithing. Are you saying you liked fatigue?

 

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I've played since November 2001. This "story" is a load of [cabbage]. Lol. That's really all I can say. What's wrong with Third Age being the fabled armor instead of Rune. What's wrong with Combat being the profitable skills instead of Mining\Smithing. Are you saying you liked fatigue?

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

This isn't a story, it's an accurate depiction of exactly how everything went.

 

 

 

You can babble on, but these things caused huge imbalances in RS. It was all so much better before these dreadful, ill-considered, sloppy, low quality updates.

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This isn't a story, it's an accurate depiction of exactly how everything went.

 

 

 

You can babble on, but these things caused huge imbalances in RS. It was all so much better before these dreadful, ill-considered, sloppy, low quality updates.

 

 

 

I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason you remind me of the grandpa from the Rugrats.

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This isn't a story, it's an accurate depiction of exactly how everything went.

 

 

 

You can babble on, but these things caused huge imbalances in RS. It was all so much better before these dreadful, ill-considered, sloppy, low quality updates.

 

 

 

I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason you remind me of the grandpa from the Rugrats.

 

 

 

Oooooooooh, you're so clever. You're so witty. You're so sophisticated. Is that what you wanted to hear? Are you satisfied? Then piss off.

 

 

 

You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.

 

 

 

Was there ever an inbalance before a certain few updates? No. Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No. And, before that particular bad update, did jag have to spend so much time "fixing" pvp? No.

 

 

 

People are trying to personally attack Eatrunearrow in order to dance around the merits of the argument. It's obvious.

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You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.

 

No. No, you don't. You say that they're wrong, but your arguments don't stand up to theirs, much less tear through them.

 

 

 

Was there ever an inbalance before a certain few updates? No.

 

Yes. There's always been an imbalance. If you don't agree, ask an f2per about the combat triangle. Some players are better than others. There has always been an imbalance, and always will be as long as we're dealing with living, breathing players.

 

 

 

Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No.

 

That's because there were less players. There are also more respectful, intelligent, talented players than before. The ratio hasn't changed much.

 

 

 

And, before that particular bad update, did jag have to spend so much time "fixing" pvp? No.

 

I don't pvp, so I'm not going to respond to this one.

 

 

 

People are trying to personally attack Eatrunearrow in order to dance around the merits of the argument. It's obvious.

 

I don't know Eatrunearrow, and I haven't said anything personal about him/her (except that, I guess.) This post was solely about responding to your statements, and addressing the "merits" of your argument.

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Oooooooooh, you're so clever. You're so witty. You're so sophisticated. Is that what you wanted to hear? Are you satisfied? Then piss off.

 

 

 

I already know that, so why would I need to hear it from you? The majority of what comes out of your mouth is nothing but the same crap Grandpa Lou says. "Back in my day, we used to pay 15 cents for a hamburger!" It's called nostalgia. Humans always seem to think the past was so much better than the present. Your name tells us everything we need to know about you.

 

 

 

You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.

 

 

 

You know, when people say stuff like, "Oh, I tore that post to shreds," it demonstrates exactly how pretentious that person is. I advise to stick to the actual argument instead of claiming yourself as the winner - which any idiot can easily do.

 

 

 

Was there ever an inbalance before a certain few updates? No. Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No. And, before that particular bad update, did jag have to spend so much time "fixing" pvp? No.

 

 

 

You're right - nobody ever ranted or complained until those specific updates. Everything was perfect! :roll: I have some breaking news. Runescape doesn't revolve around you. Stop making it seem like the updates you don't like killed the game for everyone. Loads and loads of people seem to be fine with how RS is right now. Also, loads of people ranted about stupid crap well before those updates you're talking about. You just seem to think that if it has to do with you, it's suddenly way more important than anyone else's problems.

 

 

 

Back in your day, Jagex implemented a second trade window because of the excess of scamming, banned a bunch of people for duping rares, and added lots of new rules to prevent players from ruining the game. You act like your generation were a bunch of gods. They weren't, Grandpa Lou.

 

 

 

People are trying to personally attack Eatrunearrow in order to dance around the merits of the argument. It's obvious.

 

 

 

True, just like how you sarcastically called me clever and witty. You know it's true that you sound like Grandpa Lou, but of course you dance around that fact in order to distract us. :lol:

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I'm getting tired of all this garbage about the decline of "maturity". There was never a period of perfect intellectual greatness in this game (thank god).
Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No.
I'm not sure which side you're on; please explain your position more clearly.

 

 

 

 

 

You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.
I've not seen any shredding, actually. You're too sloppy to do that properly.

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This isn't a story, it's an accurate depiction of exactly how everything went.

 

 

 

You can babble on, but these things caused huge imbalances in RS. It was all so much better before these dreadful, ill-considered, sloppy, low quality updates.

 

 

 

I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason you remind me of the grandpa from the Rugrats.

 

 

 

Oooooooooh, you're so clever. You're so witty. You're so sophisticated. Is that what you wanted to hear? Are you satisfied? Then piss off.

 

 

 

You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.

 

 

 

Was there ever an inbalance before a certain few updates? No. Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No. And, before that particular bad update, did jag have to spend so much time "fixing" pvp? No.

 

 

 

People are trying to personally attack Eatrunearrow in order to dance around the merits of the argument. It's obvious.

 

 

 

This is the most professional, unbiased and humble post I have ever seen in my entire life. =D>

 

 

 

 

 

Just by your name, and your signature already your predisposed to be against anyone who likes RS the way it is now. So what's the point of debating.

I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 

My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):

Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193)

Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)
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I'm getting tired of all this garbage about the decline of "maturity". There was never a period of perfect intellectual greatness in this game (thank god).
Was there so much idiocy and ignorance and stupidirty in this game before miniclip? No.
I'm not sure which side you're on; please explain your position more clearly.

 

 

 

 

 

If you, during your clearly bizarre, obsessive dig through my posting history, were a bit more thorough, you would find many posts about stupid people, and stupid people being held to account long before I made the "intellectual greatness" remark. I have complained again and again about the possibility that JagFAIL defended people who were killed in the wildy and lost their stuff. In fact, I think the very first topic I ever created was entirely aimed at idiots who whined at jagex because they lost their stuff during PKing. I later learned that the updates were more due to credit card fraud, but that does not mean that the [bleep]ing and moaning from the losers couldn't have played a major part in their decision.

 

 

 

The wildy update did not remove that sort of stupidity (in spite of claims that it matured the community), and nothing ever will. People still complain that they lose items when they lose, and always will. But in recent times, in my opinion, there is a lot more of that kind of complaining. I don't have a "idiocy meter" or anything like that, thats just my opinion.

 

 

 

What I was responding to, and what I have responded to repeatedly, was the nonsensical idea that RS was once some kind of elitist community of fully matured (Look at Compfreak's posts during the time my message was posted), college educated geniuses. I was also responding to the part of Eatrunearrows post that said the community mostly consisted of "smart players". This is an online game, and it was never like that as far back as I played, and probably was never from the first day.

 

 

 

You and your little pals can keep spewing your sloppy arguments, and i'll keep tearing them apart cannonballs tear through wet cardborad.
I've not seen any shredding, actually. You're too sloppy to do that properly.

 

 

 

Right, well you and everyone else who opposed me can keep pretending that pumping artifical wealth into the game doesn't inbalance the economy. And you can also pretend that the old system created moreartificial weallth than this one, when it didn't create any.

 

 

 

Everything else is identical, except that this one inbalances the economy and the old one didn't, and somehow, this one is better.

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