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Looking at people buying their XP sorta makes me wanna cry..


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Skilcapes were a disaster for gameplay in Runescape.


Thats your excuse for anything skill related.



I think even though you wont get as much if you sell the second Items from a gathering based skill like woodcutting, you still get rewarded with EXP and can use that high level to make more money back. Thats why I've been farming for my Herblore...only problem is I keep forgetting to go and harvest my herbs 80% of the time :wall:



PS: on a side note, I thought you were talking about XP Operating System, then I looked at the top f the boards saying rants and had a facepalm moment. #-o




That is the reason for everything skill related. The incentive for making food or potions or anything else is no longer to sell it for a profit, but to get a pixel cape. That is extremely bizarre.




Seriously guys, I agree with TheDayRsDied. I mean, look at what we were doing with skilling before skillcapes: Curing diabetes with herblore, ending world hunger with fishing and cooking, tearing down the rainforest with woodcutting, building homeless shelters with construction, hunting dangerous beasts with hunter and slayer, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor with theiving, and making kickass parkour videos with agility.



Now Runescape isn't doing those great things irl. We just want skill capes. If you guys can't see how skillcapes ruined the point of the game, you're alfjsl;jg;lhfowuirodjkl;jglhgagf-urk...I think I'm having a stroke.
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To Do-It-Yourself is terribly inefficient. Perhaps the "old RuneScape" died when people gave opportunity costs a thought and did some simple calculations. I "buy" the levels in every skill I can, because it's the most efficient way to train.
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To Do-It-Yourself is terribly inefficient. Perhaps the "old RuneScape" died when people gave opportunity costs a thought and did some simple calculations. I "buy" the levels in every skill I can, because it's the most efficient way to train.


I'd think it died when people gave absolute efficiency and e-manhood pride over playing the game, personally. I know a guy that got 85+ fletching simply because it made him money. Nowadays the community looks down on fletching because it's fast and at best you make a small profit. Nobody gets it for any other reason than a skillcape.

There are also players who will not touch minigames because they aren't an efficient use of time. The point is, very few players seem interested in playing the game to kill time, relax, be with friends, etc anymore.



The oldest RuneScape I know is 2005. After reading the complaints of many "loyal veterans", what I gathered was the one thing wrong in the game today, or even before the GE was that people didn't do things simply for skillcapes and money. I can't confirm this, however.

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Note: I am not claiming that every XP that I have on my account is DIY, and that I haven't bought/sold raw goods for XP or cash. I am simply saying that people could have higher resource skills AND their secondary skills if they played the game how it was originally meant to be played.




The point behind MMORPGs is that you can take your own path and play any way you wanna play.

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Post subject: Re: Looking at people buying their XP sorta makes me wanna cry..



TheDayRsDied wrote:

Dark_Aura wrote:

TheDayRsDied wrote:

Skilcapes were a disaster for gameplay in Runescape.



Thats your excuse for anything skill related.



I think even though you wont get as much if you sell the second Items from a gathering based skill like woodcutting, you still get rewarded with EXP and can use that high level to make more money back. Thats why I've been farming for my Herblore...only problem is I keep forgetting to go and harvest my herbs 80% of the time



PS: on a side note, I thought you were talking about XP Operating System, then I looked at the top f the boards saying rants and had a facepalm moment.





That is the reason for everything skill related. The incentive for making food or potions or anything else is no longer to sell it for a profit, but to get a pixel cape. That is extremely bizarre.





Seriously guys, I agree with TheDayRsDied. I mean, look at what we were doing with skilling before skillcapes: Curing diabetes with herblore, ending world hunger with fishing and cooking, tearing down the rainforest with woodcutting, building homeless shelters with construction, hunting dangerous beasts with hunter and slayer, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor with theiving, and making kickass parkour videos with agility.



Now Runescape isn't doing those great things irl. We just want skill capes. If you guys can't see how skillcapes ruined the point of the game, you're alfjsl;jg;lhfowuirodjkl;jglhgagf-urk...I think I'm having a stroke.








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Note: I am not claiming that every XP that I have on my account is DIY, and that I haven't bought/sold raw goods for XP or cash. I am simply saying that people could have higher resource skills AND their secondary skills if they played the game how it was originally meant to be played.




The point behind MMORPGs is that you can take your own path and play any way you wanna play.




Amen! I like doing my stuff DIY, and that's my choice. :) And it'll be everyone elses choice in how they want to do things. Secondary skills may have lost all profit, but they're still fun. :D
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I'd think it died when people gave absolute efficiency and e-manhood pride over playing the game, personally.

Was that in the second or third week of RuneScape's existence?

I feel obligated to train my skills if I'm on RuneScape, so I get my level as quickly as possible and go run off to find some friends. Efficiency allows you to "play the game," perhaps even more so than when DIY-ing.



Nowadays the community looks down on fletching because it's fast and at best you make a small profit. Nobody gets it for any other reason than a skillcape.

I got 99 Fletching because I love standing in banks for long periods of time. You make lots of friends.



The oldest RuneScape I know is 2005. After reading the complaints of many "loyal veterans", what I gathered was the one thing wrong in the game today, or even before the GE was that people didn't do things simply for skillcapes and money. I can't confirm this, however.

There were no skillcapes to show off your levels, so people couldn't aim for those. To say that players "back in the day" didn't give money a thought is ridiculous.
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I don't enjoy training that much, in any form. I do enjoy boss hunting, PVP, clan events, and various other activities that require skills. So I'm going to train my skills as quickly and efficiently as possible so I can do what I enjoy. So please stop telling me how and why I should stop training quickly.
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Z0MG TINGS R CHANG1NG!!!1!11 AMG PE0PLE RN'T PLAY1NG THE GAME H0W i WANT THEM TWO!!!!11!1!!!!@@2@



A summary of your rant.



Really, just let people play the game their own way, down frown upon them just because you play a different way. And DIY is just a glorified waste of time.
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Z0MG TINGS R CHANG1NG!!!1!11 AMG PE0PLE RN'T PLAY1NG THE GAME H0W i WANT THEM TWO!!!!11!1!!!!@@2@



A summary of your rant.



Really, just let people play the game their own way, down frown upon them just because you play a different way. And DIY is just a glorified waste of time.




True. Its just your personal preference. I'm not too rich because I'm f2p so I rarely train "effectively" by mass-buying raw materials, but I just gather the stuff myself. But its just my opinion.

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It's pretty easy to figure out why people just buy the raw materials: Because gathering all of them yourself to get your gathering skill to 99, and then making all of that into a finished product to get one of your manufacturing skills 99, takes more time than it would take to simply use a faster moneymaking method, and then powertrain your manufacturing skill, and powertrain the gathering skill. It's about efficiency.



Of course efficiency isn't everything, but personally I don't find the gathering skills to be all that fun, especially if we're talking about mining. True some of the manufacturing skills aren't all that fun either, but at least the exp rates can be raised significantly by putting money into it that I got from my favorite moneymaking method. And that's the point I think - if you DIY train, you have no choice but to use the gathering skills which you may find extremely boring. But if you buy all of your materials, you can use any moneymaking method you want. Runecrafting, boss hunting, merchanting, pking... ect, some of which people actually enjoy.

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I used to do everything DIY, *shudder*. Mining tin and copper, smithing bronze...ugh. The time I could have saved power mining iron then buying the materials for smithing...
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Z0MG TINGS R CHANG1NG!!!1!11 AMG PE0PLE RN'T PLAY1NG THE GAME H0W i WANT THEM TWO!!!!11!1!!!!@@2@



A summary of your rant.



Really, just let people play the game their own way, down frown upon them just because you play a different way. And DIY is just a glorified waste of time.


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Say I want 99 Wc and Fletching. I could chop enough yews for 99 Fletching and get 99 Wc at the same time. I would be getting about 20k Wc xp/hour (probably even less) and a couple of hundred Yew logs. Then I could cut unstrung bows and string them (assuming I buy the strings at the GE). I would get normal Fletching xp/hr but awful Wc xp/hr. I would also make very little money per hour.



Now, I hate woodcutting and don't want to spend a lot of time leveling it. I just buy the materials for 99 Fletching because I love to fletch. I spend a couple of days doing GWD, something I enjoy and I have enough cash for 99 Fletching. I saved a lot of time doing that and I enjoyed myself. If I want to trim my Fletching cape with woodcutting I can powercut teaks and get more than 70k xp/hr.





Combat is just more fun and a lot more profitable than skilling.
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Using fish caught from fishing to level cooking is the exact same thing as catching all the fish, selling them, and then buying the same fish back at a later date when you want to level cooking.. just more convenient! :thumbsup: DIY makes no sense :wall:
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i can see what you are saying but it is up to the player what they do with their materials, or money thats the beauty of the game. though i felt so much more accomplishment getting to 99 magic using my own crafted runes than if id bought them and it cost a hell of a lot less : )
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So because I pay 8 gp per 1 construction exp, and, by doing so, support the woodcutters and plank runners (low levels), Armored Zombie trainers, the magic trainers (Plank make), I am ruining the game?
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But mathematically, DIY training is often not the best option.



I powermined to 85. So shoot, me, but instead of making 8m on iron ore in 100 extra hours, I made that back in like 30.

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Perhaps Jagex has made it too easy to rapidly buy and level up skills, but honestly, they also created the problem originally: who has the time to kill an untold number of dragons to get 99 prayer? Or to but tens of thousands of magic or yew ogs for 99 fletching?
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Why I dont DIY. We only live once and I dont want to tell my friends I can't chill because I have to fish and cook everything today. To those who say do it in moderation, I again, state that I only live once. I'd rather efficiently get a 99 then spend 7+ years doing a skill because it'll make me feel good. I have life for that.



It all comes down to time. if you "playing" Runescape then you want to be efficient. If you log on each day for 1-2 hours mine coal and mithril and then leave in the middle for soccer practice then theres much better things to do than worry about RS.



but.. this is all opinion. I grew up grinding for materia exp on orange balls in FF7, guess that makes me a bad guy.
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