Items Kept on death, and other odds and ends.

[Dire_Wolf]

What does......Whip have to do with what i said.

 

 

 

Are we discussing cheap equipment or are we discussing the topic. Your starting to piss me off.

 

 

 

Comment on the topic, not your stupid idea of how to "be cheap".

 

 

 

Farseer helm alches more than Fire cape, are you [developmentally delayed]? Everyone knows that.

 

 

 

In early post i said that's the flaw of the death system, and yet you keep repeating it.

 

 

 

I wonder if your next post will have anything smart in it, obviously these ones you posted so far does not.

 

 

 

Also:

 

 

 

Because Farseer helm (Which costs 50K-70K), alches for more than Fire cape. All of sudden that's a good thing?

 

 

 

Fire cape: 2 hours (1M cash for me at Greens) + 50K-200K supplies = Over 1.05M!!!!!

 

 

 

Whip relates to SS because it's the 99% the same thing?

 

 

 

Still haven't responded why you would need Firecape and Farseer helm at the same time.

 

 

 

Post your setup now? Or your post above was just a lie.

 

I was doing PvP trick, and all of sudden pkers came and i got killed and next thing i know. I had mystic top+farseer helm+ something else in my bag and rest of my valueable items (Defender+Fire cape) was not there.

 

 

 

But i would use Farseer helm+Fire cape, it's a good option at Rock lobsters. But then again there is Ahrim hood, so i would instead choose that.

 

 

 

As for Saradomin sword and Whip, yes they are the same thing. So what?

 

 

 

My point is:

 

Regen bracelet (300K) - protects over a Saradomin sword (6.6M)

 

Farseer helm (50K-70K) - protects over Fire cape (1.05M)

 

 

 

And this is a flaw in the death system. And as new items comes, if this flaw keeps going at it...then a player dieing can become extremely expensive.

[sadukar123]

What does......Whip have to do with what i said.

 

 

 

Are we discussing cheap equipment or are we discussing the topic. Your starting to piss me off.

 

 

 

Comment on the topic, not your stupid idea of how to "be cheap".

 

 

 

Farseer helm alches more than Fire cape, are you [developmentally delayed]? Everyone knows that.

 

 

 

In early post i said that's the flaw of the death system, and yet you keep repeating it.

 

 

 

I wonder if your next post will have anything smart in it, obviously these ones you posted so far does not.

 

 

 

Also:

 

 

 

Because Farseer helm (Which costs 50K-70K), alches for more than Fire cape. All of sudden that's a good thing?

 

 

 

Fire cape: 2 hours (1M cash for me at Greens) + 50K-200K supplies = Over 1.05M!!!!!

 

 

 

Whip relates to SS because it's the 99% the same thing?

 

 

 

Still haven't responded why you would need Firecape and Farseer helm at the same time.

 

 

 

Post your setup now? Or your post above was just a lie.

 

I was doing PvP trick, and all of sudden pkers came and i got killed and next thing i know. I had mystic top+farseer helm+ something else in my bag and rest of my valueable items (Defender+Fire cape) was not there.

 

 

 

But i would use Farseer helm+Fire cape, it's a good option at Rock lobsters. But then again there is Ahrim hood, so i would instead choose that.

 

 

 

As for Saradomin sword and Whip, yes they are the same thing. So what?

 

 

 

My point is:

 

Regen bracelet (300K) - protects over a Saradomin sword (6.6M)

 

Farseer helm (50K-70K) - protects over Fire cape (1.05M)

 

 

 

And this is a flaw in the death system. And as new items comes, if this flaw keeps going at it...then a player dieing can become extremely expensive.

 

Hahahhaha and you expect sympathy? Seriously, abusing a loophole in the system, with a Fire cape. Funny, Karma sucks huh?

 

 

 

You mind posting the setup now? :roll:

[Dire_Wolf]

What does......Whip have to do with what i said.

 

 

 

Are we discussing cheap equipment or are we discussing the topic. Your starting to piss me off.

 

 

 

Comment on the topic, not your stupid idea of how to "be cheap".

 

 

 

Farseer helm alches more than Fire cape, are you [developmentally delayed]? Everyone knows that.

 

 

 

In early post i said that's the flaw of the death system, and yet you keep repeating it.

 

 

 

I wonder if your next post will have anything smart in it, obviously these ones you posted so far does not.

 

 

 

Also:

 

 

 

Because Farseer helm (Which costs 50K-70K), alches for more than Fire cape. All of sudden that's a good thing?

 

 

 

Fire cape: 2 hours (1M cash for me at Greens) + 50K-200K supplies = Over 1.05M!!!!!

 

 

 

Whip relates to SS because it's the 99% the same thing?

 

 

 

Still haven't responded why you would need Firecape and Farseer helm at the same time.

 

 

 

Post your setup now? Or your post above was just a lie.

 

I was doing PvP trick, and all of sudden pkers came and i got killed and next thing i know. I had mystic top+farseer helm+ something else in my bag and rest of my valueable items (Defender+Fire cape) was not there.

 

 

 

But i would use Farseer helm+Fire cape, it's a good option at Rock lobsters. But then again there is Ahrim hood, so i would instead choose that.

 

 

 

As for Saradomin sword and Whip, yes they are the same thing. So what?

 

 

 

My point is:

 

Regen bracelet (300K) - protects over a Saradomin sword (6.6M)

 

Farseer helm (50K-70K) - protects over Fire cape (1.05M)

 

 

 

And this is a flaw in the death system. And as new items comes, if this flaw keeps going at it...then a player dieing can become extremely expensive.

 

Hahahhaha and you expect sympathy? Seriously, abusing a loophole in the system, with a Fire cape. Funny, Karma sucks huh?

 

 

 

You mind posting the setup now? :roll:

 

How is spending 2 hours at a PvP hotspot, and then do PvP trick (26K, not the recent BUG abuse) abuse of a loophole in the system? As for Fire cape, i choose to use it cause i love it and i can get it easily back.

 

 

 

Karma? There is none in Runescape otherwise i would be lucky as hell.

 

 

 

What setup, i have forgotten.

[sadukar123]

Way to avoid the question.

[Dire_Wolf]

Way to avoid the question.

 

I am not, but since you didn't remind me what setup i will take a guess and then you must mean this gear (For Bandos that is):

 

 

 

Torag's helm

 

Amulet of fury

 

Karil's top

 

Torag's leg

 

Dragon boots

 

Fire cape

 

Barrow gloves

 

Ring of wealth

 

Abyssal whip+Rune defender

 

 

 

Was that the setup you meant?

[sadukar123]

Way to avoid the question.

 

I am not, but since you didn't remind me what setup i will take a guess and then you must mean this gear (For Bandos that is):

 

 

 

Torag's helm

 

Amulet of fury

 

Karil's top

 

Torag's leg

 

Dragon boots

 

Fire cape

 

Barrow gloves

 

Ring of wealth

 

Abyssal whip+Rune defender

 

 

 

Was that the setup you meant?

 

My setup is just as good as yours, since Neitiznot helm is interchangeable with Verac's helm, and Tassets with Verac's skirt. I risk much less as well.

[Dire_Wolf]

Way to avoid the question.

 

I am not, but since you didn't remind me what setup i will take a guess and then you must mean this gear (For Bandos that is):

 

 

 

Torag's helm

 

Amulet of fury

 

Karil's top

 

Torag's leg

 

Dragon boots

 

Fire cape

 

Barrow gloves

 

Ring of wealth

 

Abyssal whip+Rune defender

 

 

 

Was that the setup you meant?

 

My setup is just as good as yours, since Neitiznot helm is interchangeable with Verac's helm, and Tassets with Verac's skirt. I risk much less as well.

 

I see so your main goal is to prove me wrong in the discussion of "Cheap equipment (low risk) vs Expensive equipment (high risk)".

 

 

 

That's not what the topic is about so our "discussion" (Which was just me trying to get you to understand topic) ends here.

 

 

 

P.S Your equipment takes tons defence, so no...it's not the same.

[sadukar123]

Melee defence doesn't matter, since you protect, you don't need overly high range defence anyway, you simply need adequate enough to protect from Grim[bleep]e, Graardor hits many times regardless of high/low range defence. Magic defence is really the only deciding factor, and you can easily switch to Verac's if you want higher magic defence.

[TheDayRsDied]

The reason you lose valueble items is that the low alch value items are in higher demand. People die and need them, so there is more of a market for them.

 

 

 

We should not change the system to GE value. When you die, you already have a very good chance fo recovering lost items anyway, unless you have trouble getting to an area in 40 minutes. Death is a joke, there is practically no peantly other than getting a free tele to Lumbridge, Falador, or Camelot.

[Dire_Wolf]

The reason you lose valueble items is that the low alch value items are in higher demand. People die and need them, so there is more of a market for them.

 

 

 

We should not change the system to GE value. When you die, you already have a very good chance fo recovering lost items anyway, unless you have trouble getting to an area in 40 minutes. Death is a joke, there is practically no peantly other than getting a free tele to Lumbridge, Falador, or Camelot.

 

I died at PvP - no gravestone. I was doing PvP trick. The death i did not mind (even if i lost 1M+), but it's frustrating you loose good items....even ones that's not expensive and keep useless and low priced items.

 

 

 

Also, changing system to GE value will affect the market alot. So from where i stand, the best solution is the suggestion Will holmes suggest which is Faux alch value.

[Obtaurian]

The reason you lose valueble items is that the low alch value items are in higher demand. People die and need them, so there is more of a market for them.

 

 

 

We should not change the system to GE value. When you die, you already have a very good chance fo recovering lost items anyway, unless you have trouble getting to an area in 40 minutes. Death is a joke, there is practically no peantly other than getting a free tele to Lumbridge, Falador, or Camelot.

 

I died at PvP - no gravestone. I was doing PvP trick. The death i did not mind (even if i lost 1M+), but it's frustrating you loose good items....even ones that's not expensive and keep useless and low priced items.

 

 

 

Also, changing system to GE value will affect the market alot. So from where i stand, the best solution is the suggestion Will holmes suggest which is Faux alch value.

 

 

 

So you were PKing knowing full well that you could lose your items, and you're complaining that you did? What?

[Dire_Wolf]

The reason you lose valueble items is that the low alch value items are in higher demand. People die and need them, so there is more of a market for them.

 

 

 

We should not change the system to GE value. When you die, you already have a very good chance fo recovering lost items anyway, unless you have trouble getting to an area in 40 minutes. Death is a joke, there is practically no peantly other than getting a free tele to Lumbridge, Falador, or Camelot.

 

I died at PvP - no gravestone. I was doing PvP trick. The death i did not mind (even if i lost 1M+), but it's frustrating you loose good items....even ones that's not expensive and keep useless and low priced items.

 

 

 

Also, changing system to GE value will affect the market alot. So from where i stand, the best solution is the suggestion Will holmes suggest which is Faux alch value.

 

 

 

So you were PKing knowing full well that you could lose your items, and you're complaining that you did? What?

 

That's not the point. First of all i have cleary stated, 2m loss does not bother me. So it's not about dieing.

 

 

 

But i will tell you what i weren't aware of. I wasn't aware that Farseer helm and Mystic top had higher alch value than Fire cape, Rune defender and other items.

 

 

 

I suggest you stay on the topic, the flaw in death system or don't post at all okey?

 

 

 

This is not about dieing and losing a decent amount of cash (1-3M)

 

This is not about dieing and whinning/complaining about it.

 

This is about a flaw in death system making players loose more than they can handle at times.

[warrior5024]

And a Black body protects over Ahrim's Hood. It's the way it works.

 

 

 

Off topic: Ahrim's Hood is cheaper then Farseer, and has a much lower protect value. Use that in the future.

[Dire_Wolf]

And a Black body protects over Ahrim's Hood. It's the way it works.

 

 

 

Off topic: Ahrim's Hood is cheaper then Farseer, and has a much lower protect value. Use that in the future.

 

I got Farseer helm as PvP trick drop. Can you atleast accept the flaw in the system...

 

 

 

If not then this topic is to be locked. It's becoming more of a "Use this" and "Don't use that" discussion rather about the flaw in death system and how it can be solved.

 

 

 

So if another post appears that is off the topic, then i will request this thread to be closed. What's the point of it if it's not about topic ?