Player's allignment to Zaros?

[Unknown_Warrior]

In the beginning, there was nothing. At least, not for Zaros in RuneScape at least. Vanished for thousands of years with his name all-but-unknown. Yet then, a player came on. This player revealed this mighty god existed during the Digsite quest, unraveling forgotten tales by chance. Furthermore, this player assisted the few followers of Zaros that still exist, the desert bandits, by removing all of Zamorak's 4 watchmen guarding over the seal that trapped Azzanadra, Zaros' loyal guardian, thus granting him his freedom. Also, somewhere else in the desert, the player stumbled upon an ancient tomb where another Zaros' guardian was eternally trapped by a Zamorakian foe. The player, unbeknowst, set free Akthanakos, who'd continue fighting his Zamorakian foe on the eternal battlefield.

 

And, much much later in the future, the player ventured out again. And again, the player set free one of Zaros' few followers that was thought eternally trapped...

 

 

 

This begs the question though...

 

 

 

In what way are we actually helping the resurrection of Zaros? From the few things we know, he was quite the evil God, yet our player is inadvertedly and unbeknowingly setting him free. We have so far always helped him, unlike all other gods which we have had a toss with. It seems the player is becoming a vital role in the whole Zaros case.

 

What is the relation between Zaros and the player? Will we go alongside him or, for the very first time, opppose him?

 

 

 

Discuss...

[Nenga]

Well Zaros gets power from his mere name being said. Freeing his followers grants him more power. So the player is basically granting him more power to revive but discovering more about him.

[Unknown_Warrior]

Yeah, I mean, so far the player is on the good side of Zaros (for making him known again), Azzanadra, Akthanakos, Jhallan and the desert bandits.

 

 

 

Come to think of it, the player is already playing a huge role on Zaros' side.

[Nenga]

Yeah, I mean, so far the player is on the good side of Zaros (for making him known again), Azzanadra, Akthanakos, Jhallan and the desert bandits.

 

 

 

Come to think of it, the player is already playing a huge role on Zaros' side.

 

Well if he gets power when you just say his name, imagine how much power he gets when you use his Magicks. You may just be being used by being taught them. Also the ring of visibility allows you to see things in the (newly named) shadow realm. (Which I will refer to as a shadow plain because it just sounds card game related). I think the ring of visibility must be an artifact of zaros. This makes me thinks Zaros still controls this plane. As recently said it not only lets you see things on the shadow plane but it transports you there. Apparently the mahjarrat have to ability to transport there as well. Maybe just mahjarrat that follow Zaros or people Zaros have thrown to the shadow plane. It was never said which god General Khazard is aligned with. Zaros himself might even be sleeping somewhere on the shadow plane. Maybe somewhere near the mahjarrat ritual site. Since Zamorak who was once a mahjarrat was able to become a god, all gods may just be extremely powerful mahjarrat. I imagine Zaros would need to be somewhere close to receive the power and the shadow plane is technically not Gielinor.

[BlackKingX]

From the few things we know, he was quite the evil God, yet our player is inadvertedly and unbeknowingly setting him free. We have so far always helped him, unlike all other gods which we have had a toss with. It seems the player is becoming a vital role in the whole Zaros case.

 

What is the relation between Zaros and the player? Will we go alongside him or, for the very first time, opppose him?

 

 

 

Discuss...

 

 

 

There is no proof that Zaros was actually evil. Of course Zamorak and Saradomin followers are going to cast Zaros in a poor light. But Zaros followers have given us powerful ancient magicks, and all of the ones we've met seem pretty nice compared to their Zamorak counter-parts.

 

 

 

I just wish we could help out Zaros even more than we already are. If he needs a host-body to interact directly with this world like Bandos did, he's free to use mine.

[Naive]

I like to think of our characters as being naive. They'd help anyone if it was part of a quest. Look at the Wise Old Man. He robbed a bank and PKed a phat, but we help him out in Swan Song anyways. :P Helping a god back into power doesn't seem like something a player's character wouldn't do, despite how evil he might be.

[Nenga]

I like to think of our characters as being naive. They'd help anyone if it was part of a quest. Look at the Wise Old Man. He robbed a bank and PKed a phat, but we help him out in Swan Song anyways. :P Helping a god back into power doesn't seem like something a player's character wouldn't do, despite how evil he might be.

 

That is not true. I'd help Zaros back to power in a heartbeat.

[strilmus]

I think Zaros has just been slowly working behind the scenes to come back into power, and part of that is subtle influence on events such as guiding the player towards freeing parts of his sealed power. I feel his return grows nearer with each step towards the Mahjarrat ritual, but that could be entirely unrelated.

 

 

 

That being said, I don't mind being a pawn as long as it pays well.

[Forerunner]

RuneScape is an RPG, & in the case of most RPG's, the main character (in an MMO's case, the consumer's character), is usually the protagonist. I am 98% sure that our character will have a major role in the resurrection of Zaros. Ultimately, the final part of the quest line involving Zaro would force the player to stop his resurrection or defeat him after his resurrection. The reason for that is due to the fact that most quests force our players to choose a 'good' alignment, while very few allow us to choose our own path (Eg. Temple of Ikov; help Lucien get the Staff of Armadyl or defeat him instead).

 

Of course, this is all to be decided, & my opinions aren't exactly backed up by too much evidence other than the game itself.

 

 

 

If the Zarosian Mahjarrat do become successful in resurrecting Zaros, I'm pretty sure he'd have Guthix to deal with, as Zaros' arrival would be one of the most imbalanced things to happen in the Age, & we all know the math; Guthix > Imbalance.

 

 

 

We aren't exactly directly helping Zaros in his return, more or so helping the Mahjarrat rise once again & letting their actions pave the way. I think we are merely tools in this storyline, as the Mahjarrat certainly influence it more than we do.

[OnIIx]

Any idea on the new quest line for Zaros/Continuing? DT was pretty fun ;)

[BlackKingX]

Any idea on the new quest line for Zaros/Continuing? DT was pretty fun ;)

 

 

 

I have a feeling it might involve travelling back in time. Wait, before anyone says it's far fetched hear me out.

 

 

 

 

 

During the quest Meeting History your enchanted key is given the ability to travel through time. We keep hearing about major well-thought-out events that happened in the past wouldn't it stand to reason that Jagex might want to show us some of these events/areas? Such as: The Wilderness before it was ruined, Zaros' empire before the Mahjarrat uprising led by Zamorak(Maybe even witness Zamorak defeating Zaros), Varrock/Avarrocka when Arrav was still young or perhaps before the fire, and I can think of several other things we could travel back in time to see.

 

 

 

Then there was the Prophecy tablet from that recent quest. Time travellers or people that have talked to time travellers can predict future events too.

[RayOxide]

I think as we learn more about Zaros, the more he will come up to everyone to be evil, and a quest will become.

 

You will be blamed for his resurrection, and be told to save the world from Zaros, you'll probably get help from all these other random NPCs like in WGS(?)

[strilmus]

Psh, whatever. I'm pretty sure this thing would be happening with or without our help, so the blame can't be laid on us totally. I mean, Lucien got ahold of the staff regardless of which action you take, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch of the imagination that he couldn't just use it to blow down the door and get the stone himself if he didn't know we were already going to do it and let us do all the dirty work instead. In fact, if I weren't thinking that he's planning to use the stone and staff to overpower the other Mahjarrat and sacrifice all of them during the ritual in order to absorb all of their powers and become a god, freeing the other Mahjarrat to fight against him (most of the others really hate his guts one way or another) may have been the best idea all along.

 

 

 

If you were wondering, I also assume that at some point during the ritual, all this energy will inadvertently awaken Zaros (who is probably laying in wait for the ritual since he would know about it and planned in advance to take advantage of it), and he ends up absorbing all the power instead, causing the whole plan to backfire on Lucien, and he perishes during the process leaving Zaros restored to his full glory (plus he gets the stone and the staff).

[JoeDaStudd]

It gets me how underrated Zaros is.

 

Zammy and Sara have been big in the game for as long as I can remember.

 

Zaros came and went in a few quests, then Bandos and Arma bloomed on the scene. I really though that it was going to be Zaros, Guthix, Zammy and Sara in the GWD as pre-release those wear the top gods in runescape the world, ok arma has been around as long as Zaros in the quest world.

 

Any I'd love it to involve a magicks book upgrade.

[Nenga]

I think as we learn more about Zaros, the more he will come up to everyone to be evil, and a quest will become.

 

You will be blamed for his resurrection, and be told to save the world from Zaros, you'll probably get help from all these other random NPCs like in WGS(?)

 

But I want to see Zaros take over the world... :pray:

 

 

 

Besides don't you ever read about the god wars. Zaros' army is extremely well trained. Sara and Zammy had to team up to beat his army even without a god to protect them. So I doubt one lone person could defeat his entire army in battle, probably not even a god. (especially bandos)

[Unknown_Warrior]

From what I remember, Zaros was a more sophisticated Bandos. He ruled a large portion of the world (He owned everything from Port Phasmatys to Edgeville) and took the Mahjarrat under his wing after Icthlarin didn't show them combat.

 

 

 

But still, the player has always defended AND opposed a God during quests. Think: vs Bandos in The Chosen Commander, vs. Armadyl in Temple of Lucien, vs. Zamorak is countless quests, vs. Saradomin in other God related quests (Saradomin vies for total control), vs. Guthix in While Guthix Sleeps (the character was well-aware that he should not seek out the Stone of Jas). Yet, the character has nevery imposed Zaros.

 

 

 

And what would the player do when he is resurrected? For playing such a large role in his rebirth, I bet Zaros would, in one way or the other, reward the player. And, if I could, I would personally follow Zaros' side as well. A Bandos with more power, intelligence, influence with you taking a front seat in all of it, perhaps even take part in it? Yes please.

[Wkw]

Good and Evil are a point of view

 

 

 

Saradomin followers see Zamorak followers as evil, and themselves as good.

 

Zamorak followers see Saradomin followers as evil, and themselves as good.

 

 

 

Sara and Zammy followers see Zaros followers as Evil.

 

 

 

So far, all we know about Zaros, is that he wasn't evil, but just chaotic.

[EU Slayer]

I like to think of our characters as being naive. They'd help anyone if it was part of a quest. Look at the Wise Old Man. He robbed a bank and PKed a phat, but we help him out in Swan Song anyways. :P Helping a god back into power doesn't seem like something a player's character wouldn't do, despite how evil he might be.

 

That is not true. I'd help Zaros back to power in a heartbeat.

 

 

 

So would I

 

This God Zaros is quite interesting, and his Magiks are awesome =]

[TomcatLX]

The player. IS. Zaros.

[Wkw]

The player. IS. Zaros.

 

The player being Guthix is much more plausible..

[Ravenkana]

Maybe Zaros isn't all that evil. Sure, he had vampires, werewolves, majharrat, and other nasties on the payroll, but maybe he offered something irresistible in return: stability. The ability to live life without worrying about another god taking over. Sure, it wouldn't be the best life, but look at what the followers of the other gods have wreaked since then, fighting one another.

 

 

 

You know why Return of the Jedi's ending really wasn't all that happy? By offing Vader and Palpatine, as well as the elite of the stormtroopers, it would have created a power vacuum of a large magnitude.

 

 

 

Just like the removal of Zaros.

 

 

 

And who knows? Maybe the surviving gods tarred him with such a black brush simply because they fear him and do not want anyone to actively attempt to bring him back.

[strilmus]

It gets me how underrated Zaros is.

 

Zammy and Sara have been big in the game for as long as I can remember.

 

Zaros came and went in a few quests, then Bandos and Arma bloomed on the scene. I really though that it was going to be Zaros, Guthix, Zammy and Sara in the GWD as pre-release those wear the top gods in runescape the world, ok arma has been around as long as Zaros in the quest world.

 

Any I'd love it to involve a magicks book upgrade.

 

 

 

For some reason, Guthix followers are involved in the God Wars minigame on FunOrb, but I always assumed that they weren't part of the conflict due to their neutrality.

 

 

 

Since the stuff going on in GWD was somewhere near the end of the conflict, Zaros wouldn't be in any part of it because he would have been gone by then.

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

Balance is power. Whatever happens, I shall remain loyal to Guthix. Plus, if Zaros is reborn, he's toast when Guthix wakes up and finds out...

[Nenga]

Balance is power. Whatever happens, I shall remain loyal to Guthix. Plus, if Zaros is reborn, he's toast when Guthix wakes up and finds out...

 

I think Zaros=Guthix=Seren=supreme desert god. Powerwise anyway.

[Caromon]

Good and Evil are a point of view

 

 

 

Saradomin followers see Zamorak followers as evil, and themselves as good.

 

Zamorak followers see Saradomin followers as evil, and themselves as good.

 

 

 

Sara and Zammy followers see Zaros followers as Evil.

 

 

 

So far, all we know about Zaros, is that he wasn't evil, but just chaotic.

 

 

 

Where does anything say Zaros is chaotic? He was well organised, it was Zamorak who wanted chaos.