amoeba_009 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 @fastortoise, if you want bigger legs as Reb said squat more, and squat deep. Simple. There is no better exercise for your legs. As "machines" go the leg press is okay, but keep away from the leg extension. And eat more, you don't get bigger physically unless you have caloric excess. I'm pretty sure I've been doing squats at the gym all this time (I'm not being sarcastic.. I'm seriously ignorant when it comes to machine names). One machine I use is a slant (around 45 degrees) which I can add weights to that push down on my shoulders, and I do simple squats (if they're still considered squats). Another is pretty much the opposite - I push weights up away from my body not to get crushed. I also use 2 other machines, one for calves and one for the muscle behind my thighs. I think my problem is that I'm scared to crank up the weight, since I really don't want knee problems. I know when I first started doing them my knees were killing me, but thinking back I now realize my whole body was killing me, and yet I did not discontinue upper body exercises. You guys have inspired me, I'll squat something heavy tonight :thumbup: Also, eating more was taken seriously before I even started training. I'm already scrawny, and I thought if I lost a single pound I'd turn to bones and die :lol: . If I remember correctly, I shed a few pounds for the first month but I've been gaining some ever since, which is the most rewarding part for me. Thats the hack squat machine, its no where as good as regular bar on your back [wagon] to grass squats. Look up proper form online for squats and your knees will be fine. Engage the hips first the the desent, then bring your knees into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Danqazmlp, are you a girl? Honest question; I see women lifting those weights at the gym all the time. It's just, you're not going to see any results with that. And I don't mean in ths short term, I mean ever. You say i won't see any results, but i already have, for the amount of time spent, it's more than i expected. As i say, i'm not doing anything serious, its just a spare time thing. And no i'm not a woman, i was just very skinny after years of doing nothing at all ;) Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I think my problem is that I'm scared to crank up the weight, since I really don't want knee problems. I know when I first started doing them my knees were killing me, but thinking back I now realize my whole body was killing me, and yet I did not discontinue upper body exercises. You guys have inspired me, I'll squat something heavy tonight :thumbup: As amoeba said that sounds like the hack squat, which is good if you're bodybuilding and want to develop the front part of your quadricep but pretty much useless for anyone else. Don't worry about deep squatting for your knees, read this article for more information. Squats are detrimental to knees when done incorrectly, so for good form watch these videos. You say i won't see any results, but i already have, for the amount of time spent, it's more than i expected. As i say, i'm not doing anything serious, its just a spare time thing. And no i'm not a woman, i was just very skinny after years of doing nothing at all ;) The point is the muscle gets stronger through the process of myofibrillar hypertrophy, which is where the filaments within the muscle grow and split and increase in number resulting in an increase in muscle strength. This occurs when you're lifting at about 80-90% of your 1 rep maximum for any given muscle group associated with an exericse. If you can do 50 reps of whatever exercise you're doing with very little weight this process will not be occurring at any appreciable level. Even bodybuilders, who might recruit sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (more fluid in muscle cells increasing their volume) would only look to do 12-15 reps. All you're doing is building endurance. Yeah you've gotten a bit stronger, but nowhere near as efficiently as you could dropping the reps. What exercises are you doing anyway with those dumbells? "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I did some front squats today in addition to my usual squats, I would reccomend them to anyone. They are godly, and they take almost all effort out of the back. Im ontop of the world atm, i only put up 140 though, I dident want to go too heavy. :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The point is the muscle gets stronger through the process of myofibrillar hypertrophy, which is where the filaments within the muscle grow and split and increase in number resulting in an increase in muscle strength. This occurs when you're lifting at about 80-90% of your 1 rep maximum for any given muscle group associated with an exericse. If you can do 50 reps of whatever exercise you're doing with very little weight this process will not be occurring at any appreciable level. Even bodybuilders, who might recruit sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (more fluid in muscle cells increasing their volume) would only look to do 12-15 reps. All you're doing is building endurance. Yeah you've gotten a bit stronger, but nowhere near as efficiently as you could dropping the reps. What exercises are you doing anyway with those dumbells? As i say, i do nothing serious, ( i have no knowledge whatsoever as to what works best) as atm, i'm very happy with the body i have, it's just something to do when i'm bored and have nothing to do. I have no idea what i do with them, i just lift them :| I'm not an explaining type. So what your saying, is its better to just pound on the weight untill i can barely lift them 20 times? Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I strained my groin today, very excited about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 So what your saying, is its better to just pound on the weight untill i can barely lift them 20 times? Well, personally I don't lift a weight more than 8 times and most of the time it's just 5 times. But I'll do that for 5 sets. So effectively you're doing 25 reps, but you make the weight such that you couldn't do that in one set. You keep the intensity high, for strength training at least. I guess whatever you're happy with, we're just saying it's quite an inefficient way to go about it. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 So what your saying, is its better to just pound on the weight untill i can barely lift them 20 times? Well, personally I don't lift a weight more than 8 times and most of the time it's just 5 times. But I'll do that for 5 sets. So effectively you're doing 25 reps, but you make the weight such that you couldn't do that in one set. You keep the intensity high, for strength training at least. I guess whatever you're happy with, we're just saying it's quite an inefficient way to go about it. I'l give it a go for a while, see how it works out, as i say, i have no idea what should work and what shouldn't. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugger_88 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I took the wieghtlifting/physical fitness class last semester and gained some good weight. Im 5'10 145lbs I deadlift 300 Clean 240 Bench 200 Squat 200 (I have osgood schlatters disease and my knees are very bad) Plus im only 15 so gimme a break - 60,023rd to 99 Firemaking on April 29th, 2012 -- 15,152nd to 99 agility on August 21st, 2011 -- 30,569th to 99 Prayer on June 26th, 2011 -- 22,646th to 99 Hunter on Jan 9th, 2011 -1993 Miata; sold - 2001 E46 330i; "totaled" - 2001 E46 325iT; Bags and wheels ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I was doing rackpulls yesterday, the bar slipped in my hand and took one of my callus's right off. Anyone want pics? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyvernWyvern Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I don't like cleans so I don't do them. :P But for bench my max is 120 at the moment. My max squat is like 225 though. I <3 my legs. I'm almost 16, 5'9, and 137 lb. D: "Close your eyes, pray for plagues."100% F2P - 97 Cmb - 1619 Total - 243 QP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powman3 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I squat 225 now. 8-) I now rep 155 on bench, around a 325 leg press,. I'm making decent progress, so to say. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eazy187 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Age - 16 Height - 5' 11 Weight - 143 Max Bench - 245 Max Squat - 400 Max Clean - 200 Been on the football team for 3 years now and I like weight lifting more than football itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm a skinny [bleep], BMI 16.5. I started doing dips, squats, pushups, lunges, and crunches 5 days ago. Wish me luck :\ [Edit] Oh, right, this is the weightlifting thread. Sorry for the OT then. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren211 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm 15 and rather large (not all fat, I'm just big). I'm not very good with weightlifting. I can bench a pathetic 85lbs leg press a meager 200lbs. Been doing volleyball summer workouts but of course volleyball isn't nearly as intense as, say, football so our workouts are a lot less tough. [hide=]tip it would pay me $500.00 to keep my clothes ON :( :lol:But then again, you fail to realize that 101% of the people in this universe hate you. Yes, humankind's hatred against you goes beyond mathematical possibilities.That tears it. I'm starting an animal rebellion using my mind powers. Those PETA bastards will never see it coming until the porcupines are half way up their asses.[/hide]Apparently a lot of people say it. I own. http://linkagg.com/ Not my site, but a simple, budding site that links often unheard-of websites that are amazing for usefulness and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm 15 and rather large (not all fat, I'm just big). I'm not very good with weightlifting. I can bench a pathetic 85lbs leg press a meager 200lbs. Been doing volleyball summer workouts but of course volleyball isn't nearly as intense as, say, football so our workouts are a lot less tough. My legs are weak, so they can't support much weight, either. Several injuries early in life may have contributed to that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22pepsi22 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 level 1. -.- I dunno how much a I could lift though. It probably isn't much, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmesh Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Im currently in summer weights for football and i spend all my free time with my girlfriend soo when im done ill be sure to tell u how im doing fully :) im at 160+ lbs now and filling out hehe Shout to LowFatMilk for the sig! Doin your body and sig good :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnagePie Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Age - 15 Height - 6' 1 Weight - 134.5 Max Bench - the bar (45) Max Squat - 75-90 FINALLY got myself gym membership just yesterday. Now I'm going 5 days a week for the summer and planning to go 3-5 days a week for the school year. What's a sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnagePie Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I love my $10 wal-mart protein! \ $10? Really? That's what I'm getting then! Steroids are the way to go. Haha just kidding. But I do prefer this Xsport Fitness protein shakes and what not. Even though I haven't had any for like 6 years, it still tastes great. I'd buy it now, but it's like $45 plus tax. I don't have that kind of money! Well not until I get my summer time job next year. >.> What's a sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Do curls work as well as a regular bench press? I come back from a month vacation and my bench is gone. What is up with that catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieMcD Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 They work, but not as good as Bench press. Bench press is the god of Chest building exercises, no other exercise comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 They work, but not as good as Bench press. Bench press is the god of Chest building exercises, no other exercise comes close. I'd disagree, I think incline dumbell flyes are superior to the bench for chest development. I mean this is talking about it from a purely aesthetic point of view, bench is probably the best exercise for building strength in your chest but if you want to bodybuild I'd say supplement dumbell presses with incline dumbell flyes. The bench is more of a compound movement which uses the shoulders a lot as well, which is why I like it, but if you just want a big chest... "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieMcD Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 They work, but not as good as Bench press. Bench press is the god of Chest building exercises, no other exercise comes close. I'd disagree, I think incline dumbell flyes are superior to the bench for chest development. I mean this is talking about it from a purely aesthetic point of view, bench is probably the best exercise for building strength in your chest but if you want to bodybuild I'd say supplement dumbell presses with incline dumbell flyes. The bench is more of a compound movement which uses the shoulders a lot as well, which is why I like it, but if you just want a big chest... True I suppose, as you mentioned though that's why I also like the Bench, does my shoulders also. Personally, incline flys have only done my outer pecs, still hasn't done much for my inner pecs compared to say, Bench. That's why I'd always do both though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 True I suppose, as you mentioned though that's why I also like the Bench, does my shoulders also. Personally, incline [blocked due to abuse] have only done my outer pecs, still hasn't done much for my inner pecs compared to say, Bench. That's why I'd always do both though. Yeah, fair enough. The program I'm currently on only has bench in it for chest work so I'm not doing anywhere near as much as most gym goers seem to do for their chest, but it's really not suffering. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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