My_Eggs Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 So, I've been doing quite a bit of waterfiend killing lately since Duradel has decided to give them to me like crazy. Anyways, after aquiring my barrows gloves today, my damage has increased a bit so I decided I'd try my whip at waterfiends. Of course, it is said that they are resistant to slash and stab, and weak against crush. Yet with my whip and flashing chivalry, I managed to hit 42s on them, while flashin chiv with my v flail, I was only managing 38s... I also noticed I wasn't really missing that much with the whip+def combo, so my question is this, is it really better to use crush on them? I seem to be getting faster kills with slash. :o So how do you guys kill them? 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well if you can get perty good kills with a whip go ahead. I've used an ss and accidentally left it on slash got it about half health then hit a bunch of zeros turned it to crush and killed really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannas Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Whip is so fail against waterfiends. It is vital you use a crush weapon like a zammy spear or sara sword for faster and more efficient kills. Thank you to tripsis for an awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I think you just got lucky with hitting it a fair bit because in the long run slash or stab attacks on waterfiends you will hit 0 after 0 after 0 after 0 and ultimately end up at best halving your trip length thus doubling your supply consumption. The reason you hit harder is the whip is because the whip has +10 more str bonus, but hitting harder isn't always better. Simply because with the whip you are hugly less likely to hit damage at all on a waterfiend. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 It isn't impossible to kill them with whip, it's just slower than using a crush weapon. It doesnt matter how high you hit just how consistent your hits are. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 It isn't impossible to kill them with whip, it's just slower than using a crush weapon. It doesnt matter how high you hit just how consistent your hits are. I know I posted a few mins ago but he summed it up so well. U may hit a 42 with a whip. But across time with whip you're gonna hit so many 1,2 and 0 that on average you will be doing much less damage opposed to a crush wep where u will hit 10+ most of the time thus giving u a greater damage rate. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well, just got assigned another 164 waterfiends (Whats up with that? He goes from never assigning them for me to 3 tasks of em in a day....) Anyways, I am hitting consitently with the whip, I was there a bit ago and I was killing faster than another person there with a v flail who was 5 lvls higher than me. I'll test out the whip compaired to the v flail tomorrow and do some time tests. Going to bed for now though, thanks for the responses guys. 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Whip is so fail against waterfiends. It is vital you use a crush weapon like a zammy spear or sara sword for faster and more efficient kills. It depends on what you compare it too. I heard whip is better than v flail, d mace, torag hammers, anchor, etcc but worse than godsword, zammy spear, sara sword A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Ancient staff+Rune defender is quite good. If you don't want negative prayer use Iban's staff, but you lose 5 magic defense. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Whip is so fail against waterfiends. It is vital you use a crush weapon like a zammy spear or sara sword for faster and more efficient kills. It depends on what you compare it too. I heard whip is better than v flail, d mace, torag hammers, anchor, etcc but worse than godsword, zammy spear, sara sword If you can't buy a Sara Sword, Z Spear or a Godsword, or at least borrow one from a friend, Whip is your best option. It is much better then the Flail, D Mace, or Hammers. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Ancient staff+Rune defender is quite good. If you don't want negative prayer use Iban's staff, but you lose 5 magic defense. Omg, I forgot about this. I heard about it somewhere and was planning on trying it, but never got around to it. Now I'm there with the ancient staff+def and I'm killing em faster than the lvl 131 with a sgs (I'm 121). Ancient staff+def is the way to go, better than whip for sure. I can max 36 with sup str pot and chiv flashing with this staff, and almost never miss them. Thanks for the help. 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Godswords suck for regular monsters, that's why you're killing them faster than the 131. I've tested it and ss/ zs is the best weapon. Don't bother with crap that happens to have a crush bonus. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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