Zaaps1 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 However, I see in person and such that people with only 60 Attack seem to hit more consistently than I do, even against people with higher defence, which brings me to my other point. selective perception, if you have higher attack you will hit more often on average no level 60 attack has a chance against 99 attack in a successful attack contest (granted you may need a very large sample to tell how much more effective) 99 attack is like 12.7M more exp than 60 attack. The increase in effectiveness should be made much more noticeable. It's not measured by xp, it's measured by levels. Although yes, there should be a noticeable difference. However, the weaker the monster, the less noticeable the difference is. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 It's been a long time since I got 99 attack, but I notice a huge difference when I sip a super attack potion. That includes on people in Castle Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryhyper Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I've been doing a lot of thinking and some of you may have heard/seen me talk about it in my Vlogs on YouTube but I personally believe this: Do you show off your sick tattoos in it? Because that's the only thing I care about. Why don't you back up your theory with actual data instead of useless speculation? This is barely thread worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxSabre Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Then it would be the best monster to test out your theory no? If you are correct (You aren't.) 78 should hit just as much as 99. In reality, trying to kill Black dragons at level 78 attack is like trying to punch through a brick wall, you can do it yes, but it's going to take a while. ^^^^^^ Logic is flawed here... In reality, enough strength determines how long it takes to punch through a brick wall... not attack. In terms you just supported the theory of Strength being accuracy and damage. To be honest I think Str Bonus has to do the most with how often you hit. If you wielded a whip that had no str bonus you'd most likely miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Then it would be the best monster to test out your theory no? If you are correct (You aren't.) 78 should hit just as much as 99. In reality, trying to kill Black dragons at level 78 attack is like trying to punch through a brick wall, you can do it yes, but it's going to take a while. ^^^^^^^ Logic is flawed here... In reality, enough strength determines how long it takes to punch through a brick wall... not attack. In terms you just supported the theory of Strength being accuracy and damage. The analogy is not that literal. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxSabre Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Besides I hit black dragons consistently enough with 75 atk. So even if it isn't to be taken literal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Besides I hit black dragons consistently enough with 75 atk. So even if it isn't to be taken literal.. Compared to a person with 99 attack, you are hitting 0's constantly. Don't give examples you can't back up. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Then it would be the best monster to test out your theory no? If you are correct (You aren't.) 78 should hit just as much as 99. In reality, trying to kill Black dragons at level 78 attack is like trying to punch through a brick wall, you can do it yes, but it's going to take a while. ^^^^^^ Logic is flawed here... In reality, enough strength determines how long it takes to punch through a brick wall... not attack. In terms you just supported the theory of Strength being accuracy and damage. To be honest I think Str Bonus has to do the most with how often you hit. If you wielded a whip that had no str bonus you'd most likely miss. Err no, if you wielded a whip with no STR bonus, you'd hit the same # of times as with a regular whip, just at the damage you hit with punches. Str has nothing whatsoever to do with accuracy. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyanniee Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yeah, ive realised this too. 99 Attack hasnt realy made a difference to me. Attack is a skill that needs its uses explained a bit further. Currently - Slaying to 99! [hide=Drops]Notable drops-Dragon- 10 Platelegs / 3 Med Helms / 10 Plateskirts / 1 Spear / 3 Left Halves / 4 Claws / 3 Ruined Armour Lumps / 200+ Boots / 3 PickaxesGodwars- 1 Bandos Chestplate / Shard 1 / Shard 2 / 4 Sets of ancient robesBarrows- 250M+ LOOT Including 10 Spears (back in the day) / Guthans spear and Dharoks helm in 1 chest (at the time it was worth 8M, a big deal to many people then lol) / 8 Guthans helms / 3 Dharoks helms / 4 Veracs Helms / etc.Other Slayer stuff- Whips 20 / Dark Bows 3 / Granite Mauls 20 / Ranging Ammys 6 / 1 Visage (steel dragons) / 40+ effigies I play on and off. I'll play the game solidly for a month then quit for the next 3, lol.[/hide][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC3 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 hard to believe no one has figured this out yet, STRENGHT, and its underated, even if you think you understand it you probably dont, especially if you made a topic like this 4000000657th to 99 cookin555555406th to 99 flethcin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I can't remember the days when I didn't have 99 attack.. but when drinking a super attack potion, I notice a significant increase in accuracy when hitting. So yes, attack does totally make a difference. Serious? When I use super sets there doesn't seem to be ANY difference. :| Either you're extremely unlucky with combat or you're in a mind trick, because potting helps leaps and bounds for me and the difference is very visable. |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampbellMC Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Why is this even a thread? Seriously there is no discussion value here if you just use your brain for one second. Go kill a steel dragon with 60 attack, then go kill one with 99 attack. Case Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoov Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 A simple explanation is just that the probably generator and programming for Runescape is not very precise/accurate. Signature by Unoalexi.Tip.it's official signature picture of the quest-cape emote is me.Fire cape owner since May 17, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrMonopoly Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Yes. At 69 Attack and with the Dragon Scimitar, I hit far more zeroes than at 70 with the Abyssal Whip. I piety the fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow93 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The difference between 99 attack and 90 attack in pvp is as distinct as using a Ring of Wealth on Black Dagons or not. Until Jagex releases their attack formula codes (which they never will) then this will only keep getting different oppinions due to pvp being so random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ngewarlord Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 why would they make the skill useless past level 78 or whatever it makes no sense Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Dan3HitU Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 Why is this even a thread? Seriously there is no discussion value here if you just use your brain for one second. Go kill a steel dragon with 60 attack, then go kill one with 99 attack. Case Closed. Against players and armours. why would they make the skill useless past level 78 or whatever it makes no sense Almost every other skills is useless past a certain level, not many have "99" benefits. [-- DYNAMIC SIGNATURES FOR RUNESCAPE 3 & OLDSCHOOL 2007 RUNESCAPE --] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Why is this even a thread? Seriously there is no discussion value here if you just use your brain for one second. Go kill a steel dragon with 60 attack, then go kill one with 99 attack. Case Closed. Against players and armours. It's the SAME THING. Try hitting a max defence Torag's tank with 60 attack and 99 attack. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Against players and armours. Once you back up your claim or feeling, what you propose us is nothing but an empty theory. A test at the duel arena will probably give you a good idea how selective perception has clouded your views. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meister14 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Against players and armours. Once you back up your claim or feeling, what you propose us is nothing but an empty theory. A test at the duel arena will probably give you a good idea how selective perception has clouded your views. But it's the famous 3 hit U ... he can't be wrong... can he? :? Donate to S_U__O__M_I !!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_D_r Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Attack isn't favored in pvp like strength is, albeit important, it only takes a few lucky hits to ko someone- 75 att can do it as well as 99. Obviously higher attack is more likely to do it though. It is absolutely out of the question to say that attack levels make no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bfiterpk6 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 how about this, anyone with 70 attack and 99 str get in the same gear as me while i use my 99 attack and well see the difference :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ngewarlord Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Why is this even a thread? Seriously there is no discussion value here if you just use your brain for one second. Go kill a steel dragon with 60 attack, then go kill one with 99 attack. Case Closed. Against players and armours. why would they make the skill useless past level 78 or whatever it makes no sense Almost every other skills is useless past a certain level, not many have "99" benefits. okay how many combat skills do that then? Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Why is this even a thread? Seriously there is no discussion value here if you just use your brain for one second. Go kill a steel dragon with 60 attack, then go kill one with 99 attack. Case Closed. Against players and armours. why would they make the skill useless past level 78 or whatever it makes no sense Almost every other skills is useless past a certain level, not many have "99" benefits. okay how many combat skills do that then? By his faulty logic, Strength is useless after 78 too. :roll: Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I think the quesion the OP is trying to ask is in terms of PVP where you're combat level determines the level of your opponent, is it worth the combat levels of gaining 99 attack, or is it more beneficial to just stop at 80ish attack. For instance, if I have 99 80 99, I should get beat by someone who has 99 99 99...however will 99 80 99 beat 93 93 93? maybe thats not what he's asking, but I'm sure 100 post in a row of 99 attack > 60 attack was getting redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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