Latinoking Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 No thank you. I rather have a maid or butler. Most (unwealthy average) people in capitalist western societies are enslaved by money and debts, living in delusional 'freedom'. You don't have to wear a steel ball chained to your legs, but you're still doing things you hate just to pay off necessities. The steel ball is mental unlike in feudal Europe or old America when it was physical. Living conditions have improved and you can have your own/rented residence & family now, but you'll still be working a job you despise for 'big money' which is only interested in accumulating increased profits for their quarterly reports to appease even bigger money and investors. Of course that doesn't apply to some of the smart people here who probably have a shot at landing a job they enjoy working (or already have one), but even in the US, the vast majority of the population works tedious labour jobs that could be likened to slavery, jobs that should be only fit for a machine. Slavery exists and will always exist; People with money outsourcing dirty and tedious jobs to poorer people who have no option except compliance (or starvation). Being able to afford a TV or a vacation isn't really relevant. By working minimum wage or close to it in the US you are practically a slave like those in ancient Rome; living from hand to mouth every paycheck without the possibility of advancement. Instead of an actual master telling you what to do, your master is now simply currency; Money. It's inanimate and cold, yet it makes the same clear, cruel point to poor people without saying a word: If you don't continue working your tedious job, your existence will crumble. Very interesting way to look at it, but what happens when you perform a job of which you love to do? Or about people who don't care how much they earn? Still enslaved? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickeley102 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Most (unwealthy average) people in capitalist western societies are enslaved by money and debts, living in delusional 'freedom'. You don't have to wear a steel ball chained to your legs, but you're still doing things you hate just to pay off necessities. The steel ball is mental unlike in feudal Europe or old America when it was physical. i read an old, old article once which said the same thing. that once you gain a mortgage you are unable to rebel against the system because you are forever in the banks (something like 40 years) debt and forced to accept the status quo. The American (capitalist) dream still exists but its bloody hard to achieve and available to a small percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDawn Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't really like the idea of slaves, although, if it was made legal I would buy one. But, I would give them anything they need, clothes, food, a warm and comfortable place to sleep, ect ect. Obviously they would have to earn their keep, but they'd have the same rights as me. ...Yeah, it'd have to be a female slave, one my own age, and good looking... :? That's why you're on the TZDF blackdawn. Even your balls can tear zombies to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't really like the idea of slaves, although, if it was made legal I would buy one. But, I would give them anything they need, clothes, food, a warm and comfortable place to sleep, ect ect. Obviously they would have to earn their keep, but they'd have the same rights as me. ...Yeah, it'd have to be a female slave, one my own age, and good looking... :? Pretty much a hooker which charges you nothing? Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvstef Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 i would have like 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDawn Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't really like the idea of slaves, although, if it was made legal I would buy one. But, I would give them anything they need, clothes, food, a warm and comfortable place to sleep, ect ect. Obviously they would have to earn their keep, but they'd have the same rights as me. ...Yeah, it'd have to be a female slave, one my own age, and good looking... :? Pretty much a hooker which charges you nothing? I wouldn't go THAT far. She'd be more of a maid who lives in her bosses house, well, more of a guest really, we'd share the cleaning. It's a better life then being a proper slave I'd say, at least nobody else could buy her and make her do... Well, yeah. That's why you're on the TZDF blackdawn. Even your balls can tear zombies to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't really like the idea of slaves, although, if it was made legal I would buy one. But, I would give them anything they need, clothes, food, a warm and comfortable place to sleep, ect ect. Obviously they would have to earn their keep, but they'd have the same rights as me. ...Yeah, it'd have to be a female slave, one my own age, and good looking... :? Pretty much a hooker which charges you nothing? I wouldn't go THAT far. She'd be more of a maid who lives in her bosses house, well, more of a guest really, we'd share the cleaning. It's a better life then being a proper slave I'd say, at least nobody else could buy her and make her do... Well, yeah. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconxl Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Kind of impossible to answer considering in modern society we've grown up being taught that slavery is evil so you can't see it any other way. It depends on if it was ever made illegal or not. If it wasn't made illegal then the families of most people saying they wouldn't own one probably would. Also I think the laws influence people's morals as well so both would be different if it wasn't made illegal. So growing up in this society I'd have to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 what happens when you perform a job of which you love to do? Or about people who don't care how much they earn? Still enslaved? Then you've succeeded in both cases, as long as you're happy. There are some minorities such as the Rastafari in Jamaica who care about nothing else than a tight community spirit and living their own life. A lot of them understand how capitalism works and they don't want to be a part of the 'rat race'. They have freed themselves from both physical and mental slavery, only working when it's necessary. Capitalism has good sides to it too, having worked with money and investments for nearly all my adult life I can also say it can give you partial freedom when you succeed, but for a large portion of the people involved in the system it's a disaster... Especially in the States, poor people can't even afford health insurance & have to work multiple jobs just to feed a family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rkid Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 what happens when you perform a job of which you love to do? Or about people who don't care how much they earn? Still enslaved? Then you've succeeded in both cases, as long as you're happy. There are some minorities such as the Rastafari in Jamaica who care about nothing else than a tight community spirit and living their own life. A lot of them understand how capitalism works and they don't want to be a part of the 'rat race'. They have freed themselves from both physical and mental slavery, only working when it's necessary. Capitalism has good sides to it too, having worked with money and investments for nearly all my adult life I can also say it can give you partial freedom when you succeed, but for a large portion of the people involved in the system it's a disaster... Especially in the States, poor people can't even afford health insurance & have to work multiple jobs just to feed a family No, they go on welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbydog95 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 No i would not need one, anyways if everyone had a slave, then we'd all be fat lazy people that wouldnt do any/get any exercies (i cant spell :? ) PSN: Skaterguy1224 Tactical Nukes - 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 No i would not need one, anyways if everyone had a slave, then we'd all be fat lazy people that wouldnt do any/get any exercies (i cant spell :? ) I'm fit, all I really do is walk, and somehow I am slightly underweight. :? Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 No i would not need one, anyways if everyone had a slave, then we'd all be fat lazy people that wouldnt do any/get any exercies (i cant spell :? ) I'm fit, all I really do is walk, and somehow I am slightly underweight. :? Damn, we are so alike it scares me. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous1234 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I would take a slave, but I wouldn't treat them like an object. They would be more like a permanent unpaid servant; I would allow them to bathe, dress nicely, and eat to remain healthy. If I developed a good relationship with that slave and they became my friend, I would probably set them free eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjoe Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 what happens when you perform a job of which you love to do? Or about people who don't care how much they earn? Still enslaved? Then you've succeeded in both cases, as long as you're happy. There are some minorities such as the Rastafari in Jamaica who care about nothing else than a tight community spirit and living their own life. A lot of them understand how capitalism works and they don't want to be a part of the 'rat race'. They have freed themselves from both physical and mental slavery, only working when it's necessary. Capitalism has good sides to it too, having worked with money and investments for nearly all my adult life I can also say it can give you partial freedom when you succeed, but for a large portion of the people involved in the system it's a disaster... Especially in the States, poor people can't even afford health insurance & have to work multiple jobs just to feed a family No, they go on welfare. well done on being a cretin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 what happens when you perform a job of which you love to do? Or about people who don't care how much they earn? Still enslaved? Then you've succeeded in both cases, as long as you're happy. There are some minorities such as the Rastafari in Jamaica who care about nothing else than a tight community spirit and living their own life. A lot of them understand how capitalism works and they don't want to be a part of the 'rat race'. They have freed themselves from both physical and mental slavery, only working when it's necessary. Capitalism has good sides to it too, having worked with money and investments for nearly all my adult life I can also say it can give you partial freedom when you succeed, but for a large portion of the people involved in the system it's a disaster... Especially in the States, poor people can't even afford health insurance & have to work multiple jobs just to feed a family No, they go on welfare. well done on being a cretin People do that. In fact I used to have neighbours and rather than get a job (they were both qualified teachers) and support their children they just sit on their [wagon] all day. The dad spends all of his time playing some old computer game all day, smoking himself to death. Both of the kids are not going to be qualified for a job due to the lack of education they have received and will probably just go on welfare too. Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Maybe one to do housework/butler stuff but wouldn't treat them bad or anything, they could stay in the guest room. The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDawn Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 No i would not need one, anyways if everyone had a slave, then we'd all be fat lazy people that wouldnt do any/get any exercies (i cant spell :? ) I'm fit, all I really do is walk, and somehow I am slightly underweight. :? Damn, we are so alike it scares me. I'm the same way. :? That's why you're on the TZDF blackdawn. Even your balls can tear zombies to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 i wouldnt take a slave, i simply dont believe it is right I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjoe Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People do that. In fact I used to have neighbours and rather than get a job (they were both qualified teachers) and support their children they just sit on their [wagon] all day. The dad spends all of his time playing some old computer game all day, smoking himself to death. Both of the kids are not going to be qualified for a job due to the lack of education they have received and will probably just go on welfare too. yes, some people do, but that fella seemed to be saying that all poor people just rely on welfare when they quite clearly don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'm an empathetic person, so I wouldn't feel right. If I really needed a slave, I would pay them a decent wage. I would just feel awful torturing someone for my own sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rkid Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People do that. In fact I used to have neighbours and rather than get a job (they were both qualified teachers) and support their children they just sit on their [wagon] all day. The dad spends all of his time playing some old computer game all day, smoking himself to death. Both of the kids are not going to be qualified for a job due to the lack of education they have received and will probably just go on welfare too. yes, some people do, but that fella seemed to be saying that all poor people just rely on welfare when they quite clearly don't. More people rely on welfare than have two jobs like that other person said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meol Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People do that. In fact I used to have neighbours and rather than get a job (they were both qualified teachers) and support their children they just sit on their [wagon] all day. The dad spends all of his time playing some old computer game all day, smoking himself to death. Both of the kids are not going to be qualified for a job due to the lack of education they have received and will probably just go on welfare too. yes, some people do, but that fella seemed to be saying that all poor people just rely on welfare when they quite clearly don't. More people rely on welfare than have two jobs like that other person said. [Citation needed]. That's a pretty strong statement you shouldn't be throwing around randomly. This signature is intentionally left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSBDavid Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I would get a slave so he/she could play wow with me. Then after I get good gear and monies I would give him/her his/her freedom. for real, I wouldnt want a slave [software Engineer] - [Ability Bar Suggestion] - [Gaming Enthusiast] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I would. In a society where this is deemed okay I'm sure I would have different principles. That's a scary thought, but you do raise a good point. A lot of people are saying no, but that's mostly because due to our current society slavery is frowned upon. People back then sure as hell didn't think that since society was much different. As of right now, I feel that freedom is a very important aspect of life. I know I would hate to be slave, so I wouldn't want to put someone else through it. But if society were different, I don't know what my opinion would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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