Where's Saradomin?

[Ravenkana]

Saradomin, the self proclaimed god of justice. Supposedly for good, though that's suspect. One of the most well known of the gods, discovered as soon as your character leaves Lumbridge. But how much do we really know about him?

 

 

 

Not a lot. Whereas Zamorak is often mentioned in the same breath as any of the other Mahjarret, and even has a mini-quest that chronicles his rise to power, while Guthix has several quests and minigames all about him, and even Bandos gets his time in the limelight, Saradomin is shrugged aside.

 

 

 

Sure, you interact with factions allied to him, the Temple Knights, the monks of Entrana, and various priests, but how much do really learn? In many cases these characters are no closer to him than you are!

 

 

 

The most I've heard about his origins comes from While Guthix Sleeps- the cutscene with the caveman touching the Stone of Jas has given rise to the theory that he might be Saradomin prior to godhood.

 

 

 

So my question is, where is Saradomin? Why doesn't he have his own quests? Why doesn't he, despite being one of the most basic of gods, ever have his origins even hinted at?

[HunterDexter]

That man touching the Stone of Jas is Vazidor or something, the first human to discover rune magicks and founder of the Lunar Clan, after leaving the barbarians of Rellekka.

 

 

 

And about Saradomin, I just think that there aren't that much intriging things to tell about him, so not really a need for a quest. Although, it would be nice to see him tied in some series (Temple Knights, Myreque and Mahjarrat).

[Sy_Accursed]

Saradomin history is everywhere, though not alot about Saradomin himself.

 

But equally we know very little of Armadyl either.

 

 

 

Evil and chaos present more compelling stories, however the depper we delve into the dark gods the more likely we are to unearth the seemingly secret past of the good gods.

 

 

 

After all Guthix has a plan for us, as confirmed by WGS and he likes balance so if we learn all about the bad gods we will learn about the good ones.

 

 

 

Also on top of all that note we know very little of ANY of the original gods.

 

We know what Zaros men did, but little of Zaros.

 

We know of Bandos acts of war, but little of Bandos hismelf

 

We know sod all about the desert gods, armadyl or saradomin.

 

 

 

We know little of guthix as well, in fact the only god we know a lot about is Zamorak and thats because he was a mahjaratt who managed to become a god. He has a mortal history.

[Poppet]

Armadyl is the god of Justice not Saradomin just putting that out.

[A_Mace]

There is some information though.

 

 

 

In WGS we learn that Saradomin also once used the stone of Jas. He called it "The Eye Of Saradomin".

 

In making history we learn that Guthix first brought the people to Gielinor and after that Saradomin and Zamorak started gathering followers.

 

And we also know about the Godwars.

 

There is more information but I can't think of any right now.

[Zaaps1]

Saradomin history is everywhere, though not alot about Saradomin himself.

 

But equally we know very little of Armadyl either.

 

 

 

But Armadyl no longer has an active presence on RuneScape, whereas Saradomin does.

 

 

 

We know sod all about the desert gods, armadyl or saradomin.

 

 

 

We actually do know quite a lot about the desert gods as a whole.

 

[a_bert]

I heard Saradomin is gonna come back one day and give us all a cuddle.

 

 

 

Think that was the limit of his abilities though.

[Beloved]

isnt the wanted! (sea slug) series and garden of tranguility about saradomin?

[Ravenkana]

isnt the wanted! (sea slug) series and garden of tranguility about saradomin?

The Wanted/Sea Slug quest line is about the Temple Knights, Sea Slugs, and maybe the Penguins. Garden of Tranquility is about making a garden for King Roald.

[Sy_Accursed]

Saradomin history is everywhere, though not alot about Saradomin himself.

 

But equally we know very little of Armadyl either.

 

 

 

But Armadyl no longer has an active presence on RuneScape, whereas Saradomin does.

 

 

 

We know sod all about the desert gods, armadyl or saradomin.

 

 

 

We actually do know quite a lot about the desert gods as a whole.

 

 

 

 

We know who the desert gods are and we know bits and peices about the smaller demi-gods, but we no nothing in particular about The original desert god, Tumeken, other than how he made the other desert gods. Namely he married the water spirit Elindis and made her a god and father Ithcalirn and Amascut (the Devourer). Then went on to creat Het, Apmeken, Crondis and Scarabas.

 

 

 

 

 

When you truely get down to it we know general stuff about all the gods, but the only ones we know a fair bit about are the ones who did not start off as gods, or we're fathered by gods.

 

We know most about Zamorak, Elindis, Icthlarin, Amascut and Scarabas specifically as people. But we know general details about Bandos, Zaros, Saradomin, Armadyl, Het, Apmeken, Crondis, Tumeken and Guthix

[Junkmutt]

We know a bit about their personalities though

 

Saradomin- A strict god. If your not with me your against me unless I want you with me then you are my ally. YOU ARE MINE!!!

 

 

 

Zamorak- An overprotective god that wants to protect his beloved species from being killed by other species so he kills the other species. STAY AWAY FROM MY BABIES!

 

 

 

Armadyl- The wussy of the gods. After his favorite species dies then he runs of crying to wherever gods go to cry. MY PRECIOUS AVIANSIES ARE GONE NOW :cry: :cry: :cry: =(

 

 

 

Bandos- The annoying little brother of the gods. Wants war and only war and is fussy whenever there isn't war. HE WANTS HIS WAR NOW!!!

 

 

 

Guthix- The laziest god of all. (Unofficial guthix quote "Shut up, up there with your warring..." five minutes later..."SHUT UP ALREADY!!!"...five minutes later...Guthix arrives and fires his super war ending laser pew pew..."AHH nice and quiet"...and now he sleeps.

 

 

 

Tumeken- The jump starter god. He makes a couple kids, give some power to some creatures, then bam! watches from afar to see what happens.

 

 

 

Zaros- (Dunno much about him so I'll go off of what I got) A VERY kind soul that rescues poor species from oppressive rulers (the mahjarat from ichlarin) also was hated by his fellow gods because he was far too kind and powerful so they "killed" him, even his precious mahjarat abandoned him. Poor guy.

 

 

 

If I missed any major gods tell me and I will put them up.

[walka92]

i must say, i liked the guthix quote XD

[wab]

saradomin wanted to protect us over the RWT's so he disabled zaros wildy and made the trade limits 8-)

 

 

 

now on serious note:

 

FACT #1: we know that saradomin entered gielinor in the 2nd age, by entering throught the law altar (and that's why entara is holy island).

 

FACT #2: saradomin ruled at least morytania (where iceyne were) and maybe more. after god wars, his followers who knew the secret of making runes managed to control most of gielinor.

 

FACT #3: saradomin wanted the staff of armadyl to himself, he sent one of his followers to get it for him, and he failed and at end it came to zamorak hands to get zaros'es godhood (his follower is the ghost that gives you ingame the top).

 

FACT #4: saradomin bought from bandos a goblin race to fight with him in the god wars.

 

FACT #5: saradomin was one of the gods who were against zamorak after he gain his godhood and helped to banish him for gielinor, for awhile.

 

FACT #6: saradomin fought in godwars, and fighted over mysterious reason we don't know for sure yet, and won most land from it than other gods.

 

FACT #7: togheter with bandos and zamorak, he was suspended from gielinor by guthix with his power, and still can't come back when he wants (armadyl left by himself without forcing, as he lost all his avainsies).

 

 

 

now after the facts, we have speculations :twisted:

 

#1: like durgesh-kaan leaders didn't told the next generation about other gods and gods at all, saradomin want his people to say as dumbiest as he can to avoid them seeking for knowledge. he told them about only him, zamorak and guthix as the only gods exist in runescape.

 

#2: saradomin fought in godwars over the stone of jas, and had it at some of the time. he called it "the eye of saradomin" want his belive to be more dumb and think this stone actually belongs to him.

 

#3: very non based speculation - saradomin is actually evil and pretending he's good to gain followers.

 

 

 

But Armadyl no longer has an active presence on RuneScape, whereas Saradomin does.

 

i'm afraid saradomin can't be active presence in runescape even if he would want to. guthix suspended him, zamorak and bandos. prove ingame is also in last durgesh-kaan quest when bandos can't enter directly runescape so he's using a magical amulet that keeps some of his power.

 

 

 

i still like to think armadyl might want to come back because guthix never suspended him :D

 

 

 

hope some of this helped, we know more than we think we know. this god leaved in the end of 3rd age, and we can know only about his major acts.

[Zaaps1]

Saradomin history is everywhere, though not alot about Saradomin himself.

 

But equally we know very little of Armadyl either.

 

 

 

But Armadyl no longer has an active presence on RuneScape, whereas Saradomin does.

 

 

 

We know sod all about the desert gods, armadyl or saradomin.

 

 

 

We actually do know quite a lot about the desert gods as a whole.

 

 

 

 

We know who the desert gods are and we know bits and peices about the smaller demi-gods, but we no nothing in particular about The original desert god, Tumeken, other than how he made the other desert gods. Namely he married the water spirit Elindis and made her a god and father Ithcalirn and Amascut (the Devourer). Then went on to creat Het, Apmeken, Crondis and Scarabas.

 

 

 

 

 

When you truely get down to it we know general stuff about all the gods, but the only ones we know a fair bit about are the ones who did not start off as gods, or we're fathered by gods.

 

We know most about Zamorak, Elindis, Icthlarin, Amascut and Scarabas specifically as people. But we know general details about Bandos, Zaros, Saradomin, Armadyl, Het, Apmeken, Crondis, Tumeken and Guthix

 

 

 

I'd say we know a fair bit about Guthix from WGS, Tears of Guthix, Juna, and Meeting History.

[Sy_Accursed]

Saradomin history is everywhere, though not alot about Saradomin himself.

 

But equally we know very little of Armadyl either.

 

 

 

But Armadyl no longer has an active presence on RuneScape, whereas Saradomin does.

 

 

 

We know sod all about the desert gods, armadyl or saradomin.

 

 

 

We actually do know quite a lot about the desert gods as a whole.

 

 

 

 

We know who the desert gods are and we know bits and peices about the smaller demi-gods, but we no nothing in particular about The original desert god, Tumeken, other than how he made the other desert gods. Namely he married the water spirit Elindis and made her a god and father Ithcalirn and Amascut (the Devourer). Then went on to creat Het, Apmeken, Crondis and Scarabas.

 

 

 

 

 

When you truely get down to it we know general stuff about all the gods, but the only ones we know a fair bit about are the ones who did not start off as gods, or we're fathered by gods.

 

We know most about Zamorak, Elindis, Icthlarin, Amascut and Scarabas specifically as people. But we know general details about Bandos, Zaros, Saradomin, Armadyl, Het, Apmeken, Crondis, Tumeken and Guthix

 

 

 

I'd say we know a fair bit about Guthix from WGS, Tears of Guthix, Juna, and Meeting History.

 

 

 

Not really.

 

 

 

WGS, tears of guthix and meeting history all jsut re-iterate he brought people to this world and he is very powerful and the stone of jas involvement in the godwars. No real info on him as a person.

[Omali]

saradomin wanted to protect us over the RWT's so he disabled zaros wildy and made the trade limits 8-)

 

 

 

Zamorak's wilderness

 

 

 

FACT #3: saradomin wanted the staff of armadyl to himself, he sent one of his followers to get it for him, and he failed and at end it came to zamorak hands to get zaros'es godhood (his follower is the ghost that gives you ingame the top).

 

 

 

Actually, Valdez, a Saradominist, finds the staff on his own, and decides to take it to Saradomin. Rennard, a thief, recognized it as a god-weapon, and stole it to take it to Zaros. Lenissa was a spy for Saradomin, but never passed the message on to him of the theft, instead passing it to Dhalak, who decided to cause turmoil in the Zarosian ranks by casting a concealing spell on the staff and giving it to Zamorak so he could kill Zaros with it.

 

 

 

FACT #4: saradomin bought from bandos a goblin race to fight with him in the god wars.

 

 

 

When did this happen?

 

 

 

FACT #6: saradomin fought in godwars, and fighted over mysterious reason we don't know for sure yet, and won most land from it than other gods.

 

 

 

The God Wars were fought for control over Zaros' land following his defeat at the hands of Zamorak. Zamorak was banished by the gods, but then returned as a god himself, to take over the world. That is when the God Wars started.

 

 

 

FACT #7: togheter with bandos and zamorak, he was suspended from gielinor by guthix with his power, and still can't come back when he wants (armadyl left by himself without forcing, as he lost all his avainsies).

 

 

 

Bandos wasn't banished from Gielinor, and Zamorak returned after attaining godhood. Saradomin wasn't banished, in fact he never left after the God Wars.

 

 

 

*speculation*

 

 

 

No...Just, no.

 

 

 

i'm afraid saradomin can't be active presence in runescape even if he would want to. guthix suspended him, zamorak and bandos. prove ingame is also in last durgesh-kaan quest when bandos can't enter directly runescape so he's using a magical amulet that keeps some of his power.

 

 

 

The gods still give favor to those who pray to them, they cannot, however, directly intervene.

 

 

 

i still like to think armadyl might want to come back because guthix never suspended him :D

 

 

 

Doubtful.

 

 

 

hope some of this helped, we know more than we think we know. this god leaved in the end of 3rd age, and we can know only about his major acts.

 

 

 

 

Except he didn't, and most of your facts weren't true.

[Sy_Accursed]

Fact 7 was right, just badly worded.

 

 

 

The gods used to walk the world and directly intervene.

 

 

 

After the god wars Guthix banished them all from directly intervening or walking on the world themselves.

 

 

 

This covered all the main gods, but not the demi-god (eg desert gods)

 

 

 

The difference of armadyl is he now has no influence on the world at all. Bandos, Zamorak and Saradomin all answer their followers prayers, send signs etc. Armadyl doesn't.

[Omali]

Fact 7 was right, just badly worded.

 

 

 

The gods used to walk the world and directly intervene.

 

 

 

After the god wars Guthix banished them all from directly intervening or walking on the world themselves.

 

 

 

This covered all the main gods, but not the demi-god (eg desert gods)

 

 

 

The difference of armadyl is he now has no influence on the world at all. Bandos, Zamorak and Saradomin all answer their followers prayers, send signs etc. Armadyl doesn't.

 

 

 

Well the way you put it is correct. It's a lot easier to understand when you're not butchering the English language.

[Dire_Wolf]

Something tells me Saradomin is in his base...

 

 

 

We have seen the elite Black knights base. We have not seen a Elite base of Saradomin.

[HunterDexter]

saradomin wanted to protect us over the RWT's so he disabled zaros wildy and made the trade limits 8-)

 

 

 

Zamorak's wilderness

 

Zaros', his empire included at least the whole wilderness, the Digsite and Ghostville/Edgeville, hence the ancient magicks teleports, they are to the main cities during Zaros' reign.

 

 

 

FACT #3: saradomin wanted the staff of armadyl to himself, he sent one of his followers to get it for him, and he failed and at end it came to zamorak hands to get zaros'es godhood (his follower is the ghost that gives you ingame the top).

 

 

 

Actually, Valdez, a Saradominist, finds the staff on his own, and decides to take it to Saradomin. Rennard, a thief, recognized it as a god-weapon, and stole it to take it to Zaros. Lenissa was a spy for Saradomin, but never passed the message on to him of the theft, instead passing it to Dhalak, who decided to cause turmoil in the Zarosian ranks by casting a concealing spell on the staff and giving it to Zamorak so he could kill Zaros with it.

 

 

 

FACT #4: saradomin bought from bandos a goblin race to fight with him in the god wars.

 

 

 

When did this happen?

 

2nd era, however, it could be it wasn't Saradomin, at least Zamorak did it. From [http]: Towards the end of the age, Bandos could sense that a war was brewing, so he organised all his races into a vast army. He divided the goblins into twelve tribes, or regiments, each one headed by a general who reported directly to him. He sold two of those tribes to other gods in exchange for magical power, but kept the rest for himself.

 

The fact that Bandos got magical powers in place, makes Saradomin very plausible.

 

 

 

FACT #6: saradomin fought in godwars, and fighted over mysterious reason we don't know for sure yet, and won most land from it than other gods.

 

 

 

The God Wars were fought for control over Zaros' land following his defeat at the hands of Zamorak. Zamorak was banished by the gods, but then returned as a god himself, to take over the world. That is when the God Wars started.

 

 

 

FACT #7: togheter with bandos and zamorak, he was suspended from gielinor by guthix with his power, and still can't come back when he wants (armadyl left by himself without forcing, as he lost all his avainsies).

 

 

 

Bandos wasn't banished from Gielinor, and Zamorak returned after attaining godhood. Saradomin wasn't banished, in fact he never left after the God Wars.

 

 

 

Partially already covered in above posts. But Zamorak was already a god when the Godwars started.

 

 

 

*speculation*

 

 

 

No...Just, no.

 

 

 

i'm afraid saradomin can't be active presence in runescape even if he would want to. guthix suspended him, zamorak and bandos. prove ingame is also in last durgesh-kaan quest when bandos can't enter directly runescape so he's using a magical amulet that keeps some of his power.

 

 

 

The gods still give favor to those who pray to them, they cannot, however, directly intervene.

 

 

 

i still like to think armadyl might want to come back because guthix never suspended him :D

 

 

 

Doubtful.

 

 

 

Well, just speculations, but there are many loopholes in the Guthixian Edicts.

 

 

 

hope some of this helped, we know more than we think we know. this god leaved left! in the end of 3rd age, and we can know only about his major acts.

 

 

 

 

Except he didn't, and most of your facts weren't true.

 

Yours weren't correct all the times too. ^^

[Me_Hate_Libs]

For fact 4, Bandos sold them to Zamorak, not to Saradomin. :ugeek:

[Sy_Accursed]

saradomin wanted to protect us over the RWT's so he disabled zaros wildy and made the trade limits 8-)

 

 

 

Zamorak's wilderness

 

Zaros', his empire included at least the whole wilderness, the Digsite and Ghostville/Edgeville, hence the ancient magicks teleports, they are to the main cities during Zaros' reign.

 

 

 

You're both right.

 

 

 

Wilderness was part of Zaros empire, but when Zaros was "killed" he obviously lost it.

 

 

 

When Zamorak returned as a god the godwars did not instantly started, but he did cause them to start. In the meantime the wilderness was part of his domain, as was morytania.

 

 

 

I forget the precise location, but its probably digsite and arrav quests but its clearly stated Varrock WAS a Zarosian city (much bigger then) that was destoryed and replaced by a Zamorakian city. During the godwars this was razed and replaced by a Saradominist city.

 

 

 

As for fact 4 we know he sold them to Zamorak for magic.

 

This makes sense as Zamorak was a mahjaratt aka powerful mages.

[wab]

saradomin wanted to protect us over the RWT's so he disabled zaros wildy and made the trade limits 8-)

 

 

 

Zamorak's wilderness

 

 

 

except it was belong to zaros

 

 

 

FACT #3: saradomin wanted the staff of armadyl to himself, he sent one of his followers to get it for him, and he failed and at end it came to zamorak hands to get zaros'es godhood (his follower is the ghost that gives you ingame the top).

 

 

 

Actually, Valdez, a Saradominist, finds the staff on his own, and decides to take it to Saradomin. Rennard, a thief, recognized it as a god-weapon, and stole it to take it to Zaros. Lenissa was a spy for Saradomin, but never passed the message on to him of the theft, instead passing it to Dhalak, who decided to cause turmoil in the Zarosian ranks by casting a concealing spell on the staff and giving it to Zamorak so he could kill Zaros with it.

 

 

 

i know the whole story, i just made things short. saradomin follower found it and saradomin wanted it to him, eventually it didn't came to him and ****** happend lol

 

 

 

FACT #4: saradomin bought from bandos a goblin race to fight with him in the god wars.

 

 

 

When did this happen?

 

 

 

when bandos sold 2 goblin races, one for zamorak and one for saradomin. other person above posted a direct proof so no need.

 

 

 

FACT #6: saradomin fought in godwars, and fighted over mysterious reason we don't know for sure yet, and won most land from it than other gods.

 

 

 

The God Wars were fought for control over Zaros' land following his defeat at the hands of Zamorak. Zamorak was banished by the gods, but then returned as a god himself, to take over the world. That is when the God Wars started.

 

 

 

jagex always said godwars may had being because of certain things, but still to this own day, "the secret and most important reason" for the godwars is unkown. people speculation alot it's because fighting over the stone of jas, the most powerfull artifact in gielinor.

 

 

 

FACT #7: togheter with bandos and zamorak, he was suspended from gielinor by guthix with his power, and still can't come back when he wants (armadyl left by himself without forcing, as he lost all his avainsies).

 

 

 

Bandos wasn't banished from Gielinor, and Zamorak returned after attaining godhood. Saradomin wasn't banished, in fact he never left after the God Wars.

 

 

 

wrong. after guthix "woke up" and found the way it was at godwars, he banished all the left gods to not let them destory gielinor completely. i would speculate (not 100% confirmed) armadyl wasn't there and because of that he wasn't banished by guthix (and leaved first cause he kinda lost)

 

 

 

*speculation*

 

 

 

No...Just, no.

 

 

 

but that's all the fun in runescape history :thumbup:

 

 

 

i'm afraid saradomin can't be active presence in runescape even if he would want to. guthix suspended him, zamorak and bandos. prove ingame is also in last durgesh-kaan quest when bandos can't enter directly runescape so he's using a magical amulet that keeps some of his power.

 

 

 

The gods still give favor to those who pray to them, they cannot, however, directly intervene.

 

 

 

agree here. and it's exactly what i said...gave the bandos amulet as example, prayer is another one.

 

 

 

i still like to think armadyl might want to come back because guthix never suspended him :D

 

 

 

Doubtful.

 

 

 

it's speculation...but oh well i don't force you to imagne things.

 

 

 

hope some of this helped, we know more than we think we know. this god leaved in the end of 3rd age, and we can know only about his major acts.

 

 

 

 

Except he didn't, and most of your facts weren't true.

 

 

 

yep he did. the only god at gielinor right now is guthix sleeping way down at earth. others can't access by adicts of guthix. and most of my facts (not speculations) are well based.

 

 

 

 

 

 

For fact 4, Bandos sold them to Zamorak, not to Saradomin. :ugeek:

 

 

 

nope he sold for both of them, check it out before you post ;)

 

 

 

P.S. not speaking english regulary irl, so i guess it's way worse than yours, so please don't be annoying by it i'm trying as much as possible =P~