nerdboyxxx Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I hate dragon armour now, can't wait to switch to better gear when I get higher combat stats/more $$$. So, the only dragon item that will be of any use once it's released is the dragon pickaxe. Kiteshield will just complete set of armour that used to be regarded as the best in the game, but is just a waste of money now. gf Jagex :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orioles8 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 On the first debate, I think it should absolutly be released, and the dragon "set" completed with all deliberate speed. That said, assuming it is introduced as a monster drop, it should not be the primary loot drop of said monster. Rather the situation should be like that of Tormented Demons where we have Claws as the primary loot drop, and dragon plate as a secondary drop. I think this would be the best way to introduce it. Personally I'd like to see it come along with the long awaited Dragon Pickaxe (something that actually would be useful) and/or Dragon Crossbow. *~72,749th to 99 Attack on 9 September 2009~* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dragon is already dead, there's simply no reason to make a dragon equipment. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orioles8 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dragon is already dead, there's simply no reason to make a dragon equipment. I absolutly disagree. The last piece of Dragon (the claws) far surpassed other weapons in terms of KO potential. Likewise, a Dragon Pick would be not dead but rather infinitely useful! *~72,749th to 99 Attack on 9 September 2009~* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned_Nex Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The claws are overly powerful ONLY because of their bugged animation. You can unload your two specials before you even get to the player, and before they can eat. If it was unbugged, you would have much more time to pray or eat. Dungeoneering isn't a skill. I'm faster than bots at Sorceress Garden. PM me if you want to chat. My PM is always off. My keyboard is on fire. Want some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The DFS is more than enough. I think it's time we stop with the Dragon stuff except for the Pickaxe, and then hopefully move on to some nice level 80 Defence untradeable armour 8-) Click Here for a Common Sense Dungeoneering Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orioles8 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The DFS is more than enough. I think it's time we stop with the Dragon stuff except for the Pickaxe, and then hopefully move on to some nice level 80 Defence untradeable armour 8-) yeah I could dig that 8-) *~72,749th to 99 Attack on 9 September 2009~* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlclm Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Dragon is already dead, there's simply no reason to make a dragon equipment. I absolutly disagree. The last piece of Dragon (the claws) far surpassed other weapons in terms of KO potential. Likewise, a Dragon Pick would be not dead but rather infinitely useful! To be honest, I think claws are completely overrated. I fooled around with them for a while and most of the time I just got the person to half health with both specs. Mind you, these people had no armor or weapons, but I used a pure set and piety. On a semi-related note, I think Jagex really dropped the ball on the DFS. Had it required the dragon square rather than an anti-dragon shield, it would have breathed a whole new life in the left half and full square markets, not to mention providing further justification for the amazing stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned_Nex Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 But it is suppose to absorb dragonfire, and be able to release it. Since when did the D [] shield do that? Dungeoneering isn't a skill. I'm faster than bots at Sorceress Garden. PM me if you want to chat. My PM is always off. My keyboard is on fire. Want some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlclm Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 But it is suppose to absorb dragonfire, and be able to release it. Since when did the D [] shield do that? It doesn't, but the visage does. Or, they could have simply required all three to create the DFS. Meh, no use really arguing about it, they won't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlclm Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 But it is suppose to absorb dragonfire, and be able to release it. Since when did the D [] shield do that? It doesn't, but the visage does. Or, they could have simply required all three to create the DFS. Meh, no use really arguing about it, they won't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alksei Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 if they already made the d plate as crappy as it is. why not just complete the set. nobody wears the d plate into combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alksei Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 if they already made the d plate as crappy as it is. why not just complete the set. nobody wears the d plate into combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I vote making it proportional to the standard kiteshields i.e. weaker than the DFS, but give an awesome aggressive set effect if you wear the lot. That way higher leveled players can sacrifice defence and cost for... I dont' know. It's gonna have to be something incredible. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I vote making it proportional to the standard kiteshields i.e. weaker than the DFS, but give an awesome aggressive set effect if you wear the lot. That way higher leveled players can sacrifice defence and cost for... I dont' know. It's gonna have to be something incredible. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 with kite -> full set => set effect! examples: 5% attack & defence boost (stackable) (near) invulnerability to Dragon-Fire additional bonus when using dragon weapons (more powerful specs or something like that) Level 99's[hide]Mining level 99 achieved November 2010Smithing level 99 achieved February 2011Fishing level 99 achieved April 2011Cooking level 99 achieved May 2011[/hide]Goals[hide][/hide]Drops:Miscellanious: 1x Draconic Visage , 5x Focus Sight, 3x Abbysal Whip Offering Effigy Assistance in Herblore, Crafting. Contact me ingame by pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 with kite -> full set => set effect! examples: 5% attack & defence boost (stackable) (near) invulnerability to Dragon-Fire additional bonus when using dragon weapons (more powerful specs or something like that) Level 99's[hide]Mining level 99 achieved November 2010Smithing level 99 achieved February 2011Fishing level 99 achieved April 2011Cooking level 99 achieved May 2011[/hide]Goals[hide][/hide]Drops:Miscellanious: 1x Draconic Visage , 5x Focus Sight, 3x Abbysal Whip Offering Effigy Assistance in Herblore, Crafting. Contact me ingame by pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Lille_D Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I think the D Kite is to DFS, as what D long is to Whip... If it'd come out before, then maybe it would have been good for a while. But now I don't think there's a lot of point: it would either totally clash with predictions or be used only for looks... RSN: De Lille D [P2P]- Visit my Advanced Farming Route Guide - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think that the Dragon Kiteshield should be released, among with other items that are not released yet for the Dragon family. Those items would be the Dragon Sword and the Dragon Warhammer, and it would be great to see those as well as a Dragon Kiteshield. :D BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I don't really think that we need it. Dragon needs to be unique, and it seems less that way all the time. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testingsomestuff123 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Has a special effect for wearing the full set been mentioned? It might make the kite useful for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Has a special effect for wearing the full set been mentioned? It might make the kite useful for whatever reason.If you wear the full set, it has a chance of counter-damaging your opponent for 120% the damage your opponent deals. It also has a chance to reflect range and magic projectiles. That's just my idea. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHasChicken Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Has a special effect for wearing the full set been mentioned? It might make the kite useful for whatever reason.If you wear the full set, it has a chance of counter-damaging your opponent for 120% the damage your opponent deals. It also has a chance to reflect range and magic projectiles. That's just my idea. Lol, mega vengeance chance, as well as the chance to completely negate mage and range projectiles? Slightly too strong I think, all pkers will do is stack it with veng and along with the high-ish def bonus of dragon will just be too strong. It's also too strong for PvM, imagine being able to negate the corp's attacks, and when you do get hit, rebounding it's damage back to it. If there was a set bonus, a 10% increase in str and accuracy (like a salve amulet, but less powerful) would be appropriate. This would also not disrupt slayer/make it too powerful, as it wont be able to be used with the black mask. Also, pkers wont be willing to risk 40m+ just for a 10% increase, and if they are, good on them for risking a decent amount in the wilderness. Back to the main purpose of the topic - yeah, a dragon kite should be introduced and be valued at around 8-10m, and also have a modest strength bonus (like the dfs and obby shield.) It would be good considering dfs's are 30m and still shooting up, and the dragon kite will probably be easier to obtain than a visage from a dragon. The only reason the dragon plate is underpowered is because it is usually compared to cheaper barrows armor with more defense - but since no cheap barrows shields exist, I do not think dragon kites as a stand alone item are redundant JOIN CHICKENSWEEPERS TODAY! FUN, FREE, AND IT WON'T MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE JUST BEEN ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS, OR YOUR MONEY BACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 If you wear the full set, it has a chance of counter-damaging your opponent for 120% the damage your opponent deals. It also has a chance to reflect range and magic projectiles. That's just my idea. Lol, mega vengeance chance, as well as the chance to completely negate mage and range projectiles? Slightly too strong I think, all pkers will do is stack it with veng and along with the high-ish def bonus of dragon will just be too strong. It's also too strong for PvM, imagine being able to negate the corp's attacks, and when you do get hit, rebounding it's damage back to it.Making it too strong is the only way to bring Dragon back. :rolleyes: And when I mean "reflect projectiles" I mean reflect those projectiles back with a 3x3 hit area. If the other guy reflects it as well, it becomes 5x5, and if reflected again... well you get the idea. Basically when you reflect projectiles they get bigger and stronger. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 in my opinion in order for a dragon kite to be widely used it needs to either:A.) Have a set effect (set being fullhelm, plate, legs/skirt, boots, and shield), something along the lines of +15% accuracy and strength to dragons, along with protection from dragonfire OR B.) have attack and/or prayer bonuses. something that would make it unique. If it was priced around 5-10m with rune defender accuracy boosts, and defense in the 60s, i can see it becoming widely used. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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