AirWales Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 tbh I have more respect for zarfot than some of these other so called "pros" atleast hes getting an education and building a future while some of these others don't really have a future other than dying a virgin because they were trying to gain 24 hour pixelated xp records while their friends (if they even have any) are hanging out and enjoying life. If they do end up quitting its gonna be pretty sad for them because by that time their friends (again, if they have any) will have a nice job a wife and kids and a successful life while these people will be sitting there wondering why they're still a pale virgin. If that's how they want to spend their lives then why shouldn't they do so? Again, a successful life is just a matter of perspective. In all fairness, I find people playing 32 hours straight a bit odd and I could never see myself doing that, but I have no right whatsoever in telling them to stop. Click here for my Firemaking guide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat_cake Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 The basic point is some1 who does the best hour days and best xp/h would be the best. Not just one or the other. If some1 plays 18h efficiently they will get more xp then the 18h non efficient player. However nobody else but drum does those kind of hours so that is why he has those records, which were well earned drum I know your reading this I just just using 18h as an example number not dissin you hope ya see im just makin a point to this dude about xp/h lol"best hour days and best xp/h" is just another way of saying best xp/day. I'm not saying just one or the other. Of course the guy that can do 10m xp/h for 24 hours a day would get maxed first. He just doesn't exist. So far the best timeline to compare xp gains we got is from the start of runescape to now. Which isn't enough to determine who is the best consistent gainer over a decade. Balmung Pro is obviously the best player so far (in terms of overall xp). But it doesn't mean anything yet. If you look at it like it was an hour, we're only closing in on like 25 minutes. If you want an accurate number on your consistent xp/h, you can't just try it for 25min and calculate from that. At the 25min marker, besides waiting, there's nothing else to do than calculate though. That's this thread. Off topic: tbh I have more respect for zarfot than some of these other so called "pros" atleast hes getting an education and building a future while some of these others don't really have a future other than dying a virgin because they were trying to gain 24 hour pixelated xp records while their friends (if they even have any) are hanging out and enjoying life. If they do end up quitting its gonna be pretty sad for them because by that time their friends (again' date=' if they have any) will have a nice job a wife and kids and a successful life while these people will be sitting there wondering why they're still a pale virgin. [/quote']Just because you think dying a virgin is the most terrible thing ever doesn't mean everyone else does. Also just because you think these guys are dying as virgins, doesn't mean they are. Tbh I have more respect for top RS players than people that are just "hanging out". I don't give two [cabbage]s about Zarfot's RL friends, or Balmung Pro's RL friends, or Drumgun's RL friends, or S_U__O__M_I's RL friends... But these guys are doing something that hundreds of people have taken an interest in. Most of their friends will never affect that many people, even combined. Just because you think having a job and a wife and kids is the ultimate way to live, doesn't mean it is. Go ask therapists how many men at that position are depressed because they suddenly realized they hate their job, their wife loves someone else and their kids hates them. Another thing. A few pages back there was this "leeching off society" thing going on. I say it's the society's fault. Too bad, you're living under a communist goverment, they share your wealth to others. If you don't want the goverment giving out your money without asking you, then change the government. If the system gives money to people who have no jobs, I just can't see how you can blame someone for taking that money and choosing to not have a job. so being like this is the ultimate way to live? or would you rather be this guy Never heard of biological needs I take it? The need to mate, the need to establish dominance the need to pass on your genes. But of course picking a video game that you're gonna play maybe 5-8 years over your permanent biological needs is a very healthy thing to do. It's not like you're gonna regret any of it when you end up quitting right? Even though you may deny it now later on you will realize how the society has left you behind and you're stuck by yourself and no one gives a crap about you anymore and you can't find a decent job because instead of going to college you were playing runescape 15 hours a day and your entire life ends up being miserable. sure you had a blast for 5 years but good luck accomplishing anything for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aasiwat Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 So being high on game hiscores automatically means you're obese with no social skills? No, I don't play 18 hours a day myself, I've just happened to be consistent over many years, but I laugh at the people who make that kind of stereotypes because I can guarantee you I'm in better shape and physical form than 95% of them. And out of my clan meetup at Runefest, NONE of about 20 people were even fat although they'd all be classified as "no lifes" by the standards of an average RS player. Have you also considered that not everyone wishes to be a puppet of the society by having a 8am-4pm office job every day, followed by getting stressed out by social duties every evening, when they seem to have different options available to live a slightly more careless life? Many of the top players have also already finished their education and aren't bound to 8 hours of daily school work. And I know plenty of very high ranked people who seem to be more "normal" than the average person, just happen to fill their free time hanging out on the internet rather than the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorG Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 The basic point is some1 who does the best hour days and best xp/h would be the best. Not just one or the other. If some1 plays 18h efficiently they will get more xp then the 18h non efficient player. However nobody else but drum does those kind of hours so that is why he has those records, which were well earned drum I know your reading this I just just using 18h as an example number not dissin you hope ya see im just makin a point to this dude about xp/h lol"best hour days and best xp/h" is just another way of saying best xp/day. I'm not saying just one or the other. Of course the guy that can do 10m xp/h for 24 hours a day would get maxed first. He just doesn't exist. So far the best timeline to compare xp gains we got is from the start of runescape to now. Which isn't enough to determine who is the best consistent gainer over a decade. Balmung Pro is obviously the best player so far (in terms of overall xp). But it doesn't mean anything yet. If you look at it like it was an hour, we're only closing in on like 25 minutes. If you want an accurate number on your consistent xp/h, you can't just try it for 25min and calculate from that. At the 25min marker, besides waiting, there's nothing else to do than calculate though. That's this thread. Off topic: tbh I have more respect for zarfot than some of these other so called "pros" atleast hes getting an education and building a future while some of these others don't really have a future other than dying a virgin because they were trying to gain 24 hour pixelated xp records while their friends (if they even have any) are hanging out and enjoying life. If they do end up quitting its gonna be pretty sad for them because by that time their friends (again' date=' if they have any) will have a nice job a wife and kids and a successful life while these people will be sitting there wondering why they're still a pale virgin. [/quote']Just because you think dying a virgin is the most terrible thing ever doesn't mean everyone else does. Also just because you think these guys are dying as virgins, doesn't mean they are. Tbh I have more respect for top RS players than people that are just "hanging out". I don't give two [cabbage]s about Zarfot's RL friends, or Balmung Pro's RL friends, or Drumgun's RL friends, or S_U__O__M_I's RL friends... But these guys are doing something that hundreds of people have taken an interest in. Most of their friends will never affect that many people, even combined. Just because you think having a job and a wife and kids is the ultimate way to live, doesn't mean it is. Go ask therapists how many men at that position are depressed because they suddenly realized they hate their job, their wife loves someone else and their kids hates them. Another thing. A few pages back there was this "leeching off society" thing going on. I say it's the society's fault. Too bad, you're living under a communist goverment, they share your wealth to others. If you don't want the goverment giving out your money without asking you, then change the government. If the system gives money to people who have no jobs, I just can't see how you can blame someone for taking that money and choosing to not have a job. so being like this is the ultimate way to live? or would you rather be this guy Never heard of biological needs I take it? The need to mate, the need to establish dominance the need to pass on your genes. But of course picking a video game that you're gonna play maybe 5-8 years over your permanent biological needs is a very healthy thing to do. It's not like you're gonna regret any of it when you end up quitting right? Even though you may deny it now later on you will realize how the society has left you behind and you're stuck by yourself and no one gives a crap about you anymore and you can't find a decent job because instead of going to college you were playing runescape 15 hours a day and your entire life ends up being miserable. sure you had a blast for 5 years but good luck accomplishing anything for the rest of your life. i love the irony of how that second picture came from a website 'www.laidquest.com' but i agree with most of what you have said here. although i think it is off topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I love how everyone thinks all the top end players have no life... Just because they play far more efficiently than you do (not to mention they started when Runescape started) doesn't mean they play 24/7 or they're an antisocial missing out on a lot of things in the world. lrn2multitask. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Never heard of biological needs I take it? The need to mate, the need to establish dominance the need to pass on your genes. But of course picking a video game that you're gonna play maybe 5-8 years over your permanent biological needs is a very healthy thing to do. It's not like you're gonna regret any of it when you end up quitting right? Even though you may deny it now later on you will realize how the society has left you behind and you're stuck by yourself and no one gives a crap about you anymore and you can't find a decent job because instead of going to college you were playing runescape 15 hours a day and your entire life ends up being miserable. sure you had a blast for 5 years but good luck accomplishing anything for the rest of your life.Well ok there's just no arguing you, you're too smart. You're somehow now directing this nolife-hate at me instead of the top players? Or is it passive form? Anyway, you're still stuck with the prejudice that each and every person on the planet wants to be like the guy in the second pic you posted. Although I think even you would probably understand that women might not enjoy it the most. Next step is for you to understand that there might be men like that too. And no, I'm not saying that I personally am curious. Come dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassy Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Goat Cake we had this same exact argument about 3 pages ago, and figured out that this topic is not discussing that. We're simply tracking people's progress and remaining ignorant of any real life situations. So let's get back on topic...again...please. :mellow: Click Here for a Common Sense Dungeoneering Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojoereturns Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 It's on topic. Sterotypes, polar opposites, it's all quite childish. Spending a few years playing RS all day can ruin your life? What a joke. Sure, you may miss a few opportunities but there will never be none. And for the people here act like the ultimate life is getting laid all the time and passing on your genes... How ridiculous. Hormone-driven, Immediate-pleasure, simply childish. And as far as passing on genes, get real with yourself. It's not that hard and we live in the 21st century. There are already too many god damn people that live here and if you want to influence people or pass something on, you're much better inventing something, or being famous. It doesn't really matter anyways, though, because in a few thousand years 99.9999999% of people's individual accomplishments are forgotten and erased because history simply doesn't have room for this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestOcean Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Never heard of biological needs I take it? The need to mate, the need to establish dominance the need to pass on your genes. But of course picking a video game that you're gonna play maybe 5-8 years over your permanent biological needs is a very healthy thing to do. It's not like you're gonna regret any of it when you end up quitting right? Even though you may deny it now later on you will realize how the society has left you behind and you're stuck by yourself and no one gives a crap about you anymore and you can't find a decent job because instead of going to college you were playing runescape 15 hours a day and your entire life ends up being miserable. sure you had a blast for 5 years but good luck accomplishing anything for the rest of your life. This. Even that i disagree on some parts. I doubt anyone expect a true rs player can live in celibacy forever. But yeah it's going too off topic now, back to topic pl0x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Yes, because obviously summon and 50m str are the only skills I trained, the other month pure, non exp boosted records with a 18h/day value don't count because they're not as impressive and should just be ignored. Oh yes and let's also not count that I still gained as much exp as Zarfot and Telmo even though I trained much slower exp skills and was actually still getting 99's too. That's how you get a perfect and not biased result. The fact that I did all of these things in a row without a single break also says nothing. Nothing consistent about that. @Storm: It's true that I get the most exp in the long run in any skill that I train. So, that gives me 2 options: I could keep this pace up and be the first to 200m all skills with flying colours, OR I could get rank 1 exp first, build a decent lead *got range fm craft fletch thieving etc left to do this*, then turn into one of them efficient guys once i fix my health and train the same hours/day they do, pick up pace whenever they speed up too. I'd like to see SUOMI get it though, but if that doesn't happen I might just get it instead since I'll be pretty close either way - cuz it might not be my goal, but I might still get it either way. THOUGH, this all depends on how the irl stuffs work out. :) so what your realy saying here is that you could keep up a 300m per month pace for quite a few months straight Stop being stupid. This is something I've noticed that a lot of people assume. A SINGLE RECORD ONLY MEANS THE MOST THEY'VE EVER DONE. IT IS NOT A PER DAY/WEEK/MONTH BASIS THAT THEY DO ALL THE TIME. It should be very obvious, but people prefer to think otherwise. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Yes, because obviously summon and 50m str are the only skills I trained, the other month pure, non exp boosted records with a 18h/day value don't count because they're not as impressive and should just be ignored. Oh yes and let's also not count that I still gained as much exp as Zarfot and Telmo even though I trained much slower exp skills and was actually still getting 99's too. That's how you get a perfect and not biased result. The fact that I did all of these things in a row without a single break also says nothing. Nothing consistent about that. @Storm: It's true that I get the most exp in the long run in any skill that I train. So, that gives me 2 options: I could keep this pace up and be the first to 200m all skills with flying colours, OR I could get rank 1 exp first, build a decent lead *got range fm craft fletch thieving etc left to do this*, then turn into one of them efficient guys once i fix my health and train the same hours/day they do, pick up pace whenever they speed up too. I'd like to see SUOMI get it though, but if that doesn't happen I might just get it instead since I'll be pretty close either way - cuz it might not be my goal, but I might still get it either way. THOUGH, this all depends on how the irl stuffs work out. :) so what your realy saying here is that you could keep up a 300m per month pace for quite a few months straight Stop being stupid. This is something I've noticed that a lot of people assume. A SINGLE RECORD ONLY MEANS THE MOST THEY'VE EVER DONE. IT IS NOT A PER DAY/WEEK/MONTH BASIS THAT THEY DO ALL THE TIME. It should be very obvious, but people prefer to think otherwise.Actually, squisher knows this already. But, if you were to actually read what drumgun said, and the context of the posts to which he was replying, then you might understand. And by reading drumgun's post, it does sound like he is saying he can keep up a 300m/month xp rate. Actually, if you read squishers post, you would realize that he was asking drumgun if this is truly what he was saying. Admittedly he forgot the question mark, but it is still fairly obvious that this was a question, not something that squisher actually expects. But yes, from the way that post is phrased, it looks like drumgun is claiming he can keep up the 300m/month xp rate. Whether this is actually true or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E M R E Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 To the poster above; Drumgun Exp Gain Records (Overall):Day: 87,649,738Week: 200,082,136Month: 311,362,727 This were maximums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 To the poster above; Drumgun Exp Gain Records (Overall):Day: 87,649,738Week: 200,082,136Month: 311,362,727 This were maximums.Oh look at that, you know about runetracker, you are so much more pro then anyone else. But again, if you bothered to read drumgun's post, it looks like he is claiming that he can continue to maintain those same xp rates. Squisher asked him if this was actually what he was saying, because that is the way his post is phrased. Go back a page and read the conversation. Then post something worthwhile. We covered those xp records like 30 pages ago, the week he actually set them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E M R E Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 PereGrin, I was just stating that he won't, as he could only do this because of Summoning. In that record month he trained such skills (Summoning & Fletching) at respectively 20m-30m xp/daily and 7-8m daily. In what other skills will he get at least 8m xp daily, long term? Your turn. Also, you might think my thoughts were "lol i r pro lets show him wut Drum's xp records r so he does es tee eff joe", but I was just.. geez. Didn't mean to make you mad, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirWales Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 i love the irony of how that second picture came from a website 'www.laidquest.com' I lold'd So let's get back on topic...again...please. :mellow: ^This. Click here for my Firemaking guide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekek Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 One thing that doesn't seem to be discussed commonly is the assisting system. Daily 30k rc xp very fast. Some top players are taking the adventage of this, Paperbag for example. In a year, you can assist 10950K rc xp, so in 3-5 years time it would be 30-50M, very significant amount. Of course no one won't get their assist xp every day, but doing it as much as possible on the way to 200m all skills it would save a lot of time. It's pretty funny that it's possible to get over 150M rc xp without actually crafting any runes (effigies from slayer + assisting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 woops thought it was pics thread lulz anyways gf life to whoever gets all 200m My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 PereGrin, I was just stating that he won't, as he could only do this because of Summoning. In that record month he trained such skills (Summoning & Fletching) at respectively 20m-30m xp/daily and 7-8m daily. In what other skills will he get at least 8m xp daily, long term? Your turn. Also, you might think my thoughts were "lol i r pro lets show him wut Drum's xp records r so he does es tee eff joe", but I was just.. geez. Didn't mean to make you mad, bro.I misunderstood your post. But yes, 300m/month xp rate is not sustainable. I am not the one saying it is. It appears from drumgun's post that HE is the one saying that. This is what squisher was asking him about. From your post, it looked like you thought I was saying 300m/month is possible, which is exactly what Jebrim appears to think that squisher was thinking. If I were to paraphrase drumgun's post, then it would go something like Drumgun: "I can sustain a 300m/month xp rate." OR "I can sustain the xp rate I got that month, not counting the summoning xp and zeal xp." Please remember, I do NOT think Drumgun can sustain the 300m/month xp rate. But the phrasing of that post makes it unclear whether DRUMGUN HIMSELF is saying this or not. At least until we have further clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Drumgun is stating that he can sustain the hours, not the actual highest Overall Xp record he ever obtained. What he's saying in there is to stop focussing on just the Overall record he has and to actually look at ALL of the other records he has. The other ones are just as impressive, if not more. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark_Fearow Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 PereGrin, I was just stating that he won't, as he could only do this because of Summoning. In that record month he trained such skills (Summoning & Fletching) at respectively 20m-30m xp/daily and 7-8m daily. In what other skills will he get at least 8m xp daily, long term? Your turn. Also, you might think my thoughts were "lol i r pro lets show him wut Drum's xp records r so he does es tee eff joe", but I was just.. geez. Didn't mean to make you mad, bro.I misunderstood your post. But yes, 300m/month xp rate is not sustainable. I am not the one saying it is. It appears from drumgun's post that HE is the one saying that. This is what squisher was asking him about. From your post, it looked like you thought I was saying 300m/month is possible, which is exactly what Jebrim appears to think that squisher was thinking. If I were to paraphrase drumgun's post, then it would go something like Drumgun: "I can sustain a 300m/month xp rate." OR "I can sustain the xp rate I got that month, not counting the summoning xp and zeal xp." Please remember, I do NOT think Drumgun can sustain the 300m/month xp rate. But the phrasing of that post makes it unclear whether DRUMGUN HIMSELF is saying this or not. At least until we have further clarification.Yeah he did say that he could keep getting 300M exp/Month since he has "10 Buyable Skills" left which he could get 8M exp/day. He is working on the non-Buyable skills now. Whatpulse team My Youtube name is: birdman258My Mining Goal- Mining Rune Essence till level 99 8-) :^_^: :thumbsup: :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Please quote the exact words that lead you to the conclusion that he says he can maintain 300m Xp/month. After quoting them, please go into detail explaining the rationality behind connecting his words with your conclusion. Do not use "I could keep this pace up" as that is referring to his hours/day, which has been 18+, now 19-20, for over 3 years now. That is the pace he is referring to. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is... or now... was... my favorite topic on the forums, was interesting and a good read. The few off topic posters and spam posters are going to get this locked and ruin it for everyone :| please, just stop with unnecessary, stereotypical, untrue posts... back on topic (840th To 99 Farm. Achieved on February 13th, 2008.) (2942th To 99 Crafting. Achieved on September 9th, 2008.)(23671th To 99 Magic. Achieved on January 17th, 2009.) (46913th to 99 Hit Points. Achieved on March 20th, 2009.)(30680th to 99 Range. Achieved on March 21st, 2009.) (66351th to 99 Attack. Achieved on July 8th, 2009.)(2856th to 99 Herblore. Achieved on August 21st, 2009.) (45985th to 99 Woodcutting. Achieved on November 15th, 2009.)(6119th to 99 Smithing. Achieved on December 24th, 2009.) (98100th to 99 Cooking. Achieved on January 1st, 2010.)(63214th to 99 Defence. Achieved on January 30th, 2010.) (122697th to 99 Strength. Achieved on February 11th, 2010.)(15249th to 99 Prayer. Achieved on March 21st, 2010.) (34209th to 99 Fishing. Achieved on July 7th, 2010.)(9259th to 99 Summoning. Achieved on July 29th, 2010.) (51712th to 99 Firemaking. Achieved on September 6th, 2010.)(109036th to 99 Fletching. Achieved on September 28th, 2010.) (15821th to 99 Slayer. Achieved on February 3rd, 2011.)(11652th to 99 Construction. Achieved on June 18th, 2011.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 @Jebrim Yes, because obviously summon and 50m str are the only skills I trained, the other month pure, non exp boosted records with a 18h/day value don't count because they're not as impressive and should just be ignored. Oh yes and let's also not count that I still gained as much exp as Zarfot and Telmo even though I trained much slower exp skills and was actually still getting 99's too. That's how you get a perfect and not biased result. The fact that I did all of these things in a row without a single break also says nothing. Nothing consistent about that. The wording is not clear for this section of text. Upon reading through it, it is unclear what exactly Drumgun means. When you exploded at squisher for asking for clarification, it appeared that you thought squisher was in fact thinking that drumgun was claiming to be able to pull 300m/month xp rates consistantly. That you could even think squisher meant this suggests that, in your mind, there is reasonable doubt about how other people could interpret this quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is... or now... was... my favorite topic on the forums, was interesting and a good read. The few off topic posters and spam posters are going to get this locked and ruin it for everyone :| please, just stop with unnecessary, stereotypical, untrue posts... back on topicYea, this arguing for the sake of arguing is ruining this thread. This isn't meant to be a thread to argue on. 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alevel3nub Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is totally irrelevant to the discussion and I don't know if it against TIF rules, if it is a mod can removeSo I lurk on [Caution: Jagex Rule Violation] to see whos doing what in the blackmarket communitySomeone has posted a thread claiming to be S-U--O--M-I lol, just thought it was funny and decided to post here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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