200M in all Skills

[A13d]

this update was really the straw that broke the camel's back for some people

some examples: http://gyazo.com/d7e99ddc4fd487571dc0f82189591931

http://gyazo.com/246230c79eeac49f6d33b71a20714d6e

[Existent]

this update was really the straw that broke the camel's back for some people

some examples: http://gyazo.com/d7e99ddc4fd487571dc0f82189591931

http://gyazo.com/246230c79eeac49f6d33b71a20714d6e

This was probably the funniest thing I saw about this update:

http://gyazo.com/6afac870e2aae68686a5c2d3f5cd20e9

[A13d]

Yeah, I saw that a couple hours ago. It proves Jagex doesn't even play their own game. Sad excuse for a company tbh.

[Steph]

I can personally say I will be buying Suomi a 10% week =) If its not too much of an xp-waste, refer the e-mail I'm pming you.

Reported for Real World Trading :shame:

 

It's not really RWT, but somehow I doubt you even read the update prior to posting the above message.

[Lethe_Keres]

Lol, look at Runetrack, some kid called Toad has earned 805m xp yesterday. I was like wth..ofcourse its a bug but look at his skills. he has 200m dung. it says at aug 15 he got 55 dungeoneering. How, ?!

 

Hi,

 

Name changing, also not a kid :)

Hi Toad,

 

May I ask how you were able to bypass the 28 day waiting period for name changes (http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=2270 - when one changes their display name, it's locked from being taken by another player for at least 28 days)? Did you coordinate this with the previous display name holder somehow?

 

The player who previously held the "Toad" display name, who had fairly low stats, was gaining steady amounts of xp right up until August 17 (http://runetrack.com/progress.php?user=Toad). Then, on that day, they changed their name to something else, and you (with significantly higher stats) came in and took the name, thus making the stats appear to jump by such a great amount. This shouldn't have happened - it's not a common occurrence, and I've never seen something quite like this before. There should always be a waiting period of at least 28 days between the name changes - RuneScape shouldn't allow an instant swap from and to a display name (at least, according to Jagex).

 

Reference:

http://runetrack.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=268

http://runetrack.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=267

 

 

Toad was his alt account. Also he might have a Jmod friend who he asked to change the name for him and they did it.

[essiw]

Lol, look at Runetrack, some kid called Toad has earned 805m xp yesterday. I was like wth..ofcourse its a bug but look at his skills. he has 200m dung. it says at aug 15 he got 55 dungeoneering. How, ?!

 

Hi,

 

Name changing, also not a kid :)

Hi Toad,

 

May I ask how you were able to bypass the 28 day waiting period for name changes (http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=2270 - when one changes their display name, it's locked from being taken by another player for at least 28 days)? Did you coordinate this with the previous display name holder somehow?

 

The player who previously held the "Toad" display name, who had fairly low stats, was gaining steady amounts of xp right up until August 17 (http://runetrack.com/progress.php?user=Toad). Then, on that day, they changed their name to something else, and you (with significantly higher stats) came in and took the name, thus making the stats appear to jump by such a great amount. This shouldn't have happened - it's not a common occurrence, and I've never seen something quite like this before. There should always be a waiting period of at least 28 days between the name changes - RuneScape shouldn't allow an instant swap from and to a display name (at least, according to Jagex).

 

Reference:

http://runetrack.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=268

http://runetrack.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=267

 

 

Toad was his alt account. Also he might have a Jmod friend who he asked to change the name for him and they did it.

If that is true, does that mean that if I want to change my second account to the name of my first account I can just ask jagex for it? Doesn't sound like they would do that.

[haimonek]

Lunagang, a dutch clan/comminuty, interviewed a Jmod that left Jagex (Mod Moonie).

 

Now I don't know how legit this interview was but there were some disturbing facts summed up.

1 of which was that RuneScape is losing alot of players, in the last year the amount of hits has halved. With this Refer-a-friend bullcrap it actually seems that this interview was more legit than I thought at first and it proves how desperate Jagex is to get people to buy members.

 

Here's the interview:

http://www.lunagang.nl/tipforum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=234366

 

Sadly, it's Dutch but you could attempt using a translator :P. The intresting part is at this topic: "Jagex, wat zijn ze aan het doen?"

[essiw]

Lunagang, a dutch clan/comminuty, interviewed a Jmod that left Jagex (Mod Moonie).

 

Now I don't know how legit this interview was but there were some disturbing facts summed up.

1 of which was that RuneScape is losing alot of players, in the last year the amount of hits has halved. With this Refer-a-friend bullcrap it actually seems that this interview was more legit than I thought at first and it proves how desperate Jagex is to get people to buy members.

 

Here's the interview:

http://www.lunagang.nl/tipforum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=234366

 

Sadly, it's Dutch but you could attempt using a translator :P. The intresting part is at this topic: "Jagex, wat zijn ze aan het doen?"

I will translate this for you guys (sorry for my bad english :P )

I would like to notice that in the interview the mod states that they don't know much about upcoming updates and other things at the company.

 

Jagex, what are they doing?

 

It is for almost everyone clear that Jagex, the makers of RuneScape are more into money the last months and that the players will suffer from that. A Jagex moderator has not confirmed this but it is commonly known. But we would like to ask to give a little bit more respect to Jagex because they are likely to be in bas times. There are many causes for that, but none has been officially confirmed

 

Cause 1 - Failed projects: Many projects such as MechScape and War of Legends have proved to be a failure. Because of that Jagex has lost thousands of dollars. The only real game where they make much profit with is RuneScape, but the money they make with it is decreasing too. Hopefully StellarDawn and 8Realms will become a bit bigger success because otherwise this could be the downfall of the Runescape as we know it.

 

Case 2- Investors: A part of the investors in Jagex are money-grubbers. Jagex can however hardly provide it to them so they are forced to make as much profit out of Runescape. The brothers Gower, the creators of RuneScape and first developers of Runescape have even almost no power at Jagex.

 

Case 3- decreasing hits: Probably is this for many an unknown case, but the amount of hits to Runescape has been halved last year! That means less profit for Jagex, in the graphic below this text you will find the amount of hits in the last few months:

Amount of hits by Wolf Ramalpha

 

Case 4 - Dungeoneering: Dungeoneering is a skill that they have worked on from the beginning of RuneScape, but dungeoneering did not work out as planned. The result of this is even more loss for Jagex. The original idea of a new skill is next the fun to get new players/members. This was not the case with Dungeoneering.

 

Case 5 - The image: The image of RuneScape at people that are playing it is very low. It is seen as "The MMORPG for kids". Of course we know this is not the case. But sadly RuneScape will never lose this image. There are some people just quitting because of the image.

 

Case 6 - Little advertisement: There is not much advertisement for Runescape: It is never stated in the known game-magazines and there are not many ads for the game. There is no money for ads. The only possibility for players to still find Runescape is pure luck of mouth-to-mouth advertisement. The problem is that most people will be laughed at if they say in public to everyone that they play RuneScape, what partly drops the last option.

 

The consequences of their losses are not to overlook, but it unfortunately is for Jagex also the only way to get money. A few of them are written below.

 

Result 1 - No action against botting: Bots are for Jagex one of the most sources of income. The most bots are members. Jagex acts to the players like they take action against the bots, but this is not or nearly not the case. The game cannot miss the bots: without them the whole economy of Runescape would crash.

 

Result 2 - Real-World-Trading: Without to much awareness Jagex will begin with Real-World Trading themselves, while this is forbidden by themselves. Just think at the loyalty points that have come and think at the ornate katana. The ornate katana is a object people in the US can get as they buy a game card in the shop.

 

Result 3 - Wilderness & free trade: In February the wilderness and free trade came back. This preceded with (probably) a corrupt vote. With the comeback of the wilderness and free trade many ex-players became again members and there came a lot of more bots in the game. This caused Jagex to gain much profit. The amount of hits raised with millions but it was in vain: after a few weeks the amount of hits decreased again much.

 

Result 4 - Bad quality updates: With less money you cannot expect to produce beautiful updates al the time. The little money is also the reason of the bad quality of the updates. The only things today what Jagex does a lot are graphic updates and that may also be said once.

 

With this article we hope that you also understand the side of Jagex. You yourself can also help to solve the problem of Jagex to recruit new players.

[Suomi_Finland]

I'm worried that Suomi hasn't given his two cents yet. I'm curious as to how the top man in runescape is taking this update.

He has probably been asleep since it was announced.

 

Yeah I just slept 15 hours. It's really sad how Jagex is just trying to make as much money as possible without caring about anyone's achievements or anything... can't say I am surprised though, this is nothing new from Jagex and I am sure they will come up with something even worse. The whole world is about money.

 

I won't be quitting though. Updates like effigies annoyed me so much more even though it wasn't anything like this referee thing. I lost all my respect for Jagex long time ago. I still love this game a lot and it's very sad and disappointing to see what Jagex is doing to this game. Won't blame anyone for quitting, I would probably quit too if I wasn't this "close" to 200M all skills. I have a feeling that Jagex will come up with something even worse before I will get 200M all skills. It's really a shame what Jagex is doing to this game.

 

This makes me laugh haha. Nothing against you at all Suomi, we all have moments like that, I just find it funny. :)

 

Haha good times =P

 

I can personally say I will be buying Suomi a 10% week =) If its not too much of an xp-waste, refer the e-mail I'm pming you.

 

Not wasting exp at all =P Thank you so much <3 Need to think about this first. I am not sure if it stacks with effigies or Bonus XP weekend.

 

And LOL@ that video made by Elvis, laughed so hard. My favorite singer for sure.

[essiw]

@suomi

It doesn't stack with bonus xp weekend, I am not sure about effigies

[Thai_tong]

At least the referee thing isn't overpowered. It saves 4 days work per year for $40? of course the idea behind is still bad.

[Tama]

It does stack with effigies, saw a pic on HLF showing "20,000 (+2000)" or w/e coming down the meter whilst investigating an effigy.

Think I also read that it is only with the investigation and not the DK lamps.

[Suomi_Finland]

@suomi

It doesn't stack with bonus xp weekend, I am not sure about effigies

 

Yeah I just read the Game Guide.

 

It does stack with effigies, saw a pic on HLF showing "20,000 (+2000)" or w/e coming down the meter whilst investigating an effigy.

Think I also read that it is only with the investigation and not the DK lamps.

 

I guess I better start storing effigies then. I read the whole article about it but I am still not sure if you can choose when you active the 1,1x bonus. They only mentioned you can queue them if you got many but I don't know if you can keep them for years and then choose when you want to active it.

[BBK]

Interesting interview thanks for translating essiw. What jagex somehow don't seem to realise is creating a reputation of caring about the game and the players would make them a lot more money in the long term than little money grabbing schemes like the friend referral that will damage their reputation (if they even have one left) and make people quit. They are so confused and paniccing about why they're losing players, and what they're doing to try and fix the problem is the very thing that's causing it.

[Choofer]

@suomi

It doesn't stack with bonus xp weekend, I am not sure about effigies

 

Yeah I just read the Game Guide.

 

It does stack with effigies, saw a pic on HLF showing "20,000 (+2000)" or w/e coming down the meter whilst investigating an effigy.

Think I also read that it is only with the investigation and not the DK lamps.

 

I guess I better start storing effigies then. I read the whole article about it but I am still not sure if you can choose when you active the 1,1x bonus. They only mentioned you can queue them if you got many but I don't know if you can keep them for years and then choose when you want to active it.

 

 

You get the bonus xp if someone, who when creating their account put you as their referee to the game, subscribes within 14 days of creating their account. Bonus xp (as far as I can tell) is activated when the person whom you referred to the game subscribes. Then remains active for the next 168 hours.

 

They've made this update with the game mechanics of bxpw, so no game update is needed to activate bonus xp multiplier(s).

 

Edit: About the queue, I think the best option here is an example.

 

1. Player A refers Player B

2. Player B gets membership

3. Player A recieves 10% xp boost for the next 168 hours

4. Player A refers Player C

5. Player C subscribes, 40 hours after Player B

6. Player A now has an 10% xp boost for the next 296 hours

 

(Player B & C also get benefits, but who cares about them. Their noobs!)

[Thai_tong]

You get the bonus xp if someone, who when creating their account put you as their referee to the game, subscribes within 14 days of creating their account. Bonus xp (as far as I can tell) is activated when the person whom you referred to the game subscribes. Then remains active for the next 168 hours.

 

They've made this update with the game mechanics of bxpw, so no game update is needed to activate bonus xp multiplier(s).

 

Edit: About the queue, I think the best option here is an example.

 

1. Player A refers Player B

2. Player B gets membership

3. Player A recieves 10% xp boost for the next 168 hours

4. Player A refers Player C

5. Player C subscribes, 40 hours after Player B

6. Player A now has an 10% xp boost for the next 296 hours

 

(Player B & C also get benefits, but who cares about them. Their noobs!)

So if 5 people bought memberships for elvis yesterday then he wont get 5 weeks out of it?

[dutchdreams]

Lunagang, a dutch clan/comminuty, interviewed a Jmod that left Jagex (Mod Moonie).

 

Now I don't know how legit this interview was but there were some disturbing facts summed up.

1 of which was that RuneScape is losing alot of players, in the last year the amount of hits has halved. With this Refer-a-friend bullcrap it actually seems that this interview was more legit than I thought at first and it proves how desperate Jagex is to get people to buy members.

 

Here's the interview:

http://www.lunagang.nl/tipforum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=234366

 

Sadly, it's Dutch but you could attempt using a translator :P. The intresting part is at this topic: "Jagex, wat zijn ze aan het doen?"

I will translate this for you guys (sorry for my bad english :P )

I would like to notice that in the interview the mod states that they don't know much about upcoming updates and other things at the company.

 

<< snip >>

 

 

The piece you translated isn't the actual interview. It's what seems like an editorial piece (much alike the Tipit times) by the fan-site in an attempt to show the other side of the fence. It shows what the writer thinks are explanations why Jagex has come to take certain steps over the last few months. It's specifically stated in the paragraph below the title of the article, that none of the points in the article are confirmed by a Jagex moderator. The aim of the article is mentioned as well: to create awareness among the player base why certain decisions may have been taken by Jagex.

Whether or not you think the article's points have merit is up to the reader to decide of course ;)

 

Just saying the part you translated shouldn't be labeled as interview with a jagex mod, when it isn't.

 

Sorry for off-topicness ! Props to whoever can get all skills to 200m xp :P

[Choofer]

You get the bonus xp if someone, who when creating their account put you as their referee to the game, subscribes within 14 days of creating their account. Bonus xp (as far as I can tell) is activated when the person whom you referred to the game subscribes. Then remains active for the next 168 hours.

 

They've made this update with the game mechanics of bxpw, so no game update is needed to activate bonus xp multiplier(s).

 

Edit: About the queue, I think the best option here is an example.

 

1. Player A refers Player B

2. Player B gets membership

3. Player A recieves 10% xp boost for the next 168 hours

4. Player A refers Player C

5. Player C subscribes, 40 hours after Player B

6. Player A now has an 10% xp boost for the next 296 hours

 

(Player B & C also get benefits, but who cares about them. Their noobs!)

So if 5 people bought memberships for elvis yesterday then he wont get 5 weeks out of it?

You get a 168 hour overlap per referral. So if you subscibed five accounts (In less than 5 weeks), yes you will get 5 weeks of 10% boost

[Thai_tong]

At least the referee thing isn't overpowered. It saves 4 days work per year for $40? of course the idea behind is still bad.

Just to clarify what I said here. That's 4 irl days not 4 days gameplay.

[NoHopeLeft]

At least the referee thing isn't overpowered. It saves 4 days work per year for $40? of course the idea behind is still bad.

Just to clarify what I said here. That's 4 irl days not 4 days gameplay.

It saves more than that if most of the time is spent in gathering supplies or cash, like for summoning, prayer and herblore.

[Robert_R]

this update was really the straw that broke the camel's back for some people

some examples: http://gyazo.com/d7e99ddc4fd487571dc0f82189591931

http://gyazo.com/246230c79eeac49f6d33b71a20714d6e

This was probably the funniest thing I saw about this update:

http://gyazo.com/6afac870e2aae68686a5c2d3f5cd20e9

Didn't simon do prayer in like 20 days...

[Drumgun]

this update was really the straw that broke the camel's back for some people

some examples: http://gyazo.com/d7e99ddc4fd487571dc0f82189591931

http://gyazo.com/246230c79eeac49f6d33b71a20714d6e

This was probably the funniest thing I saw about this update:

http://gyazo.com/6afac870e2aae68686a5c2d3f5cd20e9

Didn't simon do prayer in like 20 days...

 

Yeah, and I could've gotten 220m range exp in a month if the limit wasn't 200m (incl getting from 1-99 first). There's quite a few more cases really, so that's indeed funny lol.

 

On the topic of Jmods and the current Jagex staff - I remember a screenie of a Jmod complimenting Aasiwat on his work, also saying that <the Jmod> was rooting for him/wishing him luck with future goals. That was back when Jagex still cared, and when I was tearing through the hiscores. There's no point in setting a big goal like 200m all skills imo, simply because no one will care by the time that goal would be reached. Ofc people are going to say ''No way, I would care if Suomi(?) gets it!!'' (probably because they want to see their donation being put to the use it was intended for). But honestly, at this rate the people who would say this now will have quit already by the time all 200ms is reached, moved onto some other game and never thinking about Rs ever again. Maybe one day they would find out:

 

<Person who used to care for someone getting 200m all skills>: *Playing new mmorpg, being happy*

<Random dude>: Hey man, (insert more urgent important convo here)

<Person who used to care for someone getting 200m all skills>: (replies to it)

 

A few lines of chit chat goes by....

 

<Random dude>: Btw, someone got 200m in all skills on Rs recently, the game that barely anyone cares about anymore.

<Person who used to care for someone getting 200m all skills>: Oh, cool.

 

*New subject starts*

 

And that's assuming Rs will still even exist by that time. I understand this might sound discouraging to whoever is going for 200m all skills, but that's what makes me say no thanks to the whole thing, and I wonder how many people would disagree with this now that you can (clearly) see which direction Rs is heading to. That's my proper 2 cents on this :P

[Suomi_Finland]

There's no point in setting a big goal like 200m all skills imo, simply because no one will care by the time that goal would be reached.

 

Umm if you don't care at all about 200M all skills why did you get 10 200M skills and planning to get even more? That's pretty big goal too imo and you could have reached 200M all skills if you would have used your time differently but of course you can play how you want, it's your decision. I know 12 or even more 200M skills isn't same as 200M all skills but still pretty close.

 

I am not saying that you should care about 200M all skills but I have seen many a bit negative posts towards me, earlier you said nobody has ever helped you which wasn't true at all. Wasn't exactly those words but the idea was the same.

 

Not trying to argue with you or anything but sometimes I don't understand why you post these negative posts :/ I know your post wasn't just about me. Anyways I am not getting 200M all skills so people would care... it's just my personal goal and trying to "complete" the game in a way.

 

I got nothing against you or anything but was a bit surprised that this was coming from a player with most 200M skills.

 

Maybe I should say that my goal is to get 20 200M skills and then keep raising it so I wouldn't get this "hate" or negativity which some people have towards 200M all skills.

[A13d]

We have this rule for three reasons: firstly, because we don’t want you to be able to buy your way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for other players. We feel your status in real-life shouldn’t affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape

Just wanted to note that this quote was from early 2009. It was mentioned on the maxed forums and here is the response: http://gyazo.com/a90c3bdb10e51351c41a043e2910c105

[Mihaly]

There's no point in setting a big goal like 200m all skills imo, simply because no one will care by the time that goal would be reached.

 

Umm if you don't care at all about 200M all skills why did you get 10 200M skills and planning to get even more? That's pretty big goal too imo and you could have reached 200M all skills if you would have used your time differently but of course you can play how you want, it's your decision. I know 12 or even more 200M skills isn't same as 200M all skills but still pretty close.

 

I am not saying that you should care about 200M all skills but I have seen many a bit negative posts towards me, earlier you said nobody has ever helped you which wasn't true at all. Wasn't exactly those words but the idea was the same.

 

Not trying to argue with you or anything but sometimes I don't understand why you post these negative posts :/ I know your post wasn't just about me. Anyways I am not getting 200M all skills so people would care... it's just my personal goal and trying to "complete" the game in a way.

 

I got nothing against you or anything but was a bit surprised that this was coming from a player with most 200M skills.

 

Maybe I should say that my goal is to get 20 200M skills and then keep raising it so I wouldn't get this "hate" or negativity which some people have towards 200M all skills.

 

Just go for 200m all. The people that have knowledge of the game know that you are time-wise the closest. If you let the negative responses to you, you'll less likely succeed. Personally I wouldn't even care if you would say you were going for 200m in all skills on 5 different accounts (Suomi I, Suomi II, Suomi III), but I would think it's a bit excessive. (2 cannon slaying?)

 

Anyway, just play for yourself. It's a shame you have to rely on other people, but that's really all that's to it. I don't think anyone in this thread would genuinely hate you for saying you're going for 200m in all skills. We would rather elaborate the goal to the unknowing people that complain about it. :P