200M in all Skills

[Urza285]

So basically mousekeys are fine, but AHK is not. I get that and I am fine. Mod Mat K put it well and I understand that closing the door on AHK was a good one. If they didn't do this then they woukd be responsible for creating and maintaining script perameters for AHK scripts. Heck even if they created their own AHK script with their own parameters in mind who's to say everyone wouldn't edit it or mess with things.

[Aiel]

So basically mousekeys are fine, but AHK is not. I get that and I am fine. Mod Mat K put it well and I understand that closing the door on AHK was a good one. If they didn't do this then they woukd be responsible for creating and maintaining script perameters for AHK scripts. Heck even if they created their own AHK script with their own parameters in mind who's to say everyone wouldn't edit it or mess with things.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he said AHK is fine if you use it correctly (IE 1:1).

[Quyneax]

 

So basically mousekeys are fine, but AHK is not. I get that and I am fine. Mod Mat K put it well and I understand that closing the door on AHK was a good one. If they didn't do this then they woukd be responsible for creating and maintaining script perameters for AHK scripts. Heck even if they created their own AHK script with their own parameters in mind who's to say everyone wouldn't edit it or mess with things.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he said AHK is fine if you use it correctly (IE 1:1).

 

You can use mousekeys, you can use AHK like mousekeys, but for example the ability to set a different number of pixels for different keys is not part of mousekeys. MMK explicitly says that he is not going to approve of AHK as a whole, only of mousekeys, so I think it's safe to say that he is completely entitled to ban you for using 8 and 80 pixel movement on different keys, for example.

[Fallstar]

 

 

 

i was talking with richard and rogie both said these to jmods don't know what are they talking lol. would be great if jacmob post on hlf something-_-

 

Well, as long as players assume the owners of the game don't know what they're doing, it must be OK to do and have no repercussions right?

 

owners?>.> i think u missed something mod balance and inifinity are new and dont understand at all what are they talking :)

 

 

Or you know, Jagex, who DOES own the game (well I guess IVP in a sense now, but they aren't the ones who actually create anything).

 

Just sick of all this arrogance among the player base thinking they "know better" than people who actually are part of the company who is making the rules. It's a rule for a reason, if you don't like it, suck it up and move on. If you really want to just assume that you know better, then continue breaking it and don't complain if/when you get banned for it.

 

 

It's not arrogance. I do know better than these two particular jmods. That's nothing to be arrogant about, considering that they are new and are bound to make a few errors. It's understandable.

 

On the other hand, they could be a little more cautious and not so provocative with their language when discussing things until they are a little more knowledgeable and confidant in their role.

[Serfal]

 

 

So basically mousekeys are fine, but AHK is not. I get that and I am fine. Mod Mat K put it well and I understand that closing the door on AHK was a good one. If they didn't do this then they woukd be responsible for creating and maintaining script perameters for AHK scripts. Heck even if they created their own AHK script with their own parameters in mind who's to say everyone wouldn't edit it or mess with things.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he said AHK is fine if you use it correctly (IE 1:1).

 

You can use mousekeys, you can use AHK like mousekeys, but for example the ability to set a different number of pixels for different keys is not part of mousekeys. MMK explicitly says that he is not going to approve of AHK as a whole, only of mousekeys, so I think it's safe to say that he is completely entitled to ban you for using 8 and 80 pixel movement on different keys, for example.

 

 

 

But what good does it do if Mod Mat K approves of it, and these 2 new spastics with their 200-700 total comes and bans you for using normal mousekeys because in their head it's wrong..

 

 

Smh, they're probably acting up about this cause they were too dumb to know how to set up mousekeys for their construction/cooking/mining training.

[Ammako]

Let's please end all this drama. I personally asked Jmod Mat K.

 

 

Lol I disagree with the part where he says "if you have to ask, then you know there is something wrong with it so don't do it."

 

I've had to ask if using joy2key to play using a controller could be flagged as botting, doesn't mean there actually was anything wrong with doing it.

[Thus]

 

Let's please end all this drama. I personally asked Jmod Mat K.

 

 

Lol I disagree with the part where he says "if you have to ask, then you know there is something wrong with it so don't do it."

 

I've had to ask if using joy2key to play using a controller could be flagged as botting, doesn't mean there actually was anything wrong with doing it.

 

He's just giving an answer without actually giving an answer.  Jagex could literally list everything that is okay and not okay to use, avoiding this years long confusion altogether, but they won't.  And now we have mods conflicting over what is right to use and what is not right to use, including 2 jmods who have played a combined 16 years yet neither have broken 1k total level.  Jagex needs to get actual players together and go through commonly used input options and come to a consensus for those, then when questions arise about things like that joy2key, meet and come to a consensus about that too.

[Artemis1330]

I think it's pretty clear; use at your own risk.

Mousekeys are fine.

ahk is fine and they don't ban for it but they won't support it either. Don't bot/script with it but if you do and get caught it's on you.

 

I think they are intentionally leaving this as a grey area because 99% of people use these things legitimately and to little personal advantage in the larger scale of things. These programs can be very helpful and don't "ruin the game". But they can also be used illegitimately. Because of this they don't want to black list it but they won't support it and would rather leave it as use at own risk.

 

It's pretty easy to read between the lines and repeatedly raising the subject will only force Jagex to step in on something that can be left as is.

[Serfal]

I think it's pretty clear; use at your own risk.

Mousekeys are fine.

ahk is fine and they don't ban for it but they won't support it either. Don't bot/script with it but if you do and get caught it's on you.

 

I think they are intentionally leaving this as a grey area because 99% of people use these things legitimately and to little personal advantage in the larger scale of things. These programs can be very helpful and don't "ruin the game". But they can also be used illegitimately. Because of this they don't want to black list it but they won't support it and would rather leave it as use at own risk.

 

It's pretty easy to read between the lines and repeatedly raising the subject will only force Jagex to step in on something that can be left as is.

 

 

If we don't raise awareness of it now, people will continue using it, and potentially risk getting their accounts banned by 2 [bleep]wits that obviously don't know shit about the game, nor know how to solve things properly, just wildly banning people for something THEY think is wrong, when many other Jmods see no issues with it. 

 

Have fun risking your accounts ban for blindly trusting these "experienced players to do their jmod job".

[Kimberly]

Look you can get upset with a particular mod's decision all you want, but the disagreements here have gone from beyond "yeah screw that" to some pretty nasty insults directed their way. They're wrong, we got the answers that we all knew were right (thanks Gemeos).

 

Raise awareness as much as you like but that's quite enough with the insults. That goes for everyone. I don't like it when people are wrong either - especially with such high stakes - but it's clearly crossing the line here.

[A13d]

So does anyone know what happened to Host Bart yet

[Jebrim]

 

I think it's pretty clear; use at your own risk.

Mousekeys are fine.

ahk is fine and they don't ban for it but they won't support it either. Don't bot/script with it but if you do and get caught it's on you.

 

I think they are intentionally leaving this as a grey area because 99% of people use these things legitimately and to little personal advantage in the larger scale of things. These programs can be very helpful and don't "ruin the game". But they can also be used illegitimately. Because of this they don't want to black list it but they won't support it and would rather leave it as use at own risk.

 

It's pretty easy to read between the lines and repeatedly raising the subject will only force Jagex to step in on something that can be left as is.

 

 

If we don't raise awareness of it now, people will continue using it, and potentially risk getting their accounts banned by 2 [bleep]wits that obviously don't know shit about the game, nor know how to solve things properly, just wildly banning people for something THEY think is wrong, when many other Jmods see no issues with it. 

 

Have fun risking your accounts ban for blindly trusting these "experienced players to do their jmod job".

 

 

They aren't able to ban people. Only certain Jagex employees have the permissions granted to them in their internal systems. The most they can do is forward names over to be checked by people that are allowed to ban people. It would be a major security risk on Jagex's part to allow every employee, regardless of what their job is, to ban people at will.

[Scrumpulus]

 

Highly unlikely.I doubt Jagex will screw up the game like that. They have no intentions to make the game that easy.

It happened for prayer. Unlikely but possible. You never what happens when new games and competition come around. Runescape if any is an evolving game and I'm sure there are lots of old-timers who never thought the game would become as "easy" as it is now. Hell we might even get Runescape 3 and it might revolutionize gameplay and everyone would laugh at RS2 like they now laugh at fatigue. At that point it's whole different question though.

[E M R E]

Does anybody know how much xp was Suomi's year record?

 

Because Forsberg888 has gained 1,9B xp from January 1, 2013 to now. And he gains like craaazy.

 

(heard he still a teenager too and got comp cape at 15 

[Swisscooler_]

Does anybody know how much xp was Suomi's year record?

 

Because Forsberg888 has gained 1,9B xp from January 1, 2013 to now. And he gains like craaazy.

 

(heard he still a teenager too and got comp cape at 15

I think suomis was 2.1b

This was discussed a while back so maybe you can find something about it a few pages back.

 

Forsberg is 18 now i think

He was about 13-14 years old when he reached 100m rc xp witbout runespan

[G0d_vs_D3vil]

 

Does anybody know how much xp was Suomi's year record?

 

Because Forsberg888 has gained 1,9B xp from January 1, 2013 to now. And he gains like craaazy.

 

(heard he still a teenager too and got comp cape at 15

I think suomis was 2.1b

This was discussed a while back so maybe you can find something about it a few pages back.

 

Forsberg is 18 now i think

He was about 13-14 years old when he reached 100m rc xp witbout runespan

 

suomi did 1.9b xp

[W48 Burthorpe Unit]

 

So does anyone know what happened to Host Bart yet

RQ'ed after seeing Yo Blue's gains. Edited November 27, 2013 by Kimberly

[NoHopeLeft]

"Your mouse is bound to move at least 1 pixel during clicking, even if it's a touchpad button or mousekeys" - An actual JMod, 2013

[Botted250MilXP]

"Your mouse is bound to move at least 1 pixel during clicking, even if it's a touchpad button or mousekeys" - An actual JMod, 2013

 

I know about community of people who "discovered" this rule couple of years ago. :D

[Umdlye]

At this point it's safe to say this is becoming a problem... but what exactly are we looking at here?

 

Jagex's (new) community engagement staff is talking about stuff they don't know enough about. Namely, Mod Infinity and Mod Balance, whose backgrounds were mentioned by Serfal earlier in this thread. With that said, I think they have decent intentions, it's just a terrible way of doing things...

 

Post 1 - November 19th, 3 PM - Mod Balance

Post 2 - November 19th, 4 PM - Mod Infinity

Post 3 - November 26th, 5 PM - Mod Infinity

 

It's not only a bad case of miscommunication, this is a pretty touchy subject, and one that's been discussed for years.

At the very least, we know these two mods are not entirely making stuff up. Mod Infinity is "quoting" a certain anti-cheating specialist in post 2... so what do they have to say?

 

Mouse keys are safe to use, the problem lies with stuff like AutoHotKey (1, 2), which was what Infinity was trying to say in his first post, it just came out mangled.

This proves the words of the anti-cheating team are being taken out of context, and we should try our best to disregard these kinds of posts until someone who knows what they're talking about makes an official statement.

[Ammako]

This proves the words of the anti-cheating team are being taken out of context, and we should try our best to disregard these kinds of posts until someone who knows what they're talking about makes an official statement.

Maybe, but if I understood this well (and correct me if I didn't), the fact remains that someone has (allegedly) been banned solely because their mouse cursor clicked the exact same pixel over and over for a long period of time.

Something that can be done with a laptop touchpad buttons or regular mouse keys, as mentioned earlier, both of which are 100% within the game's rules.

 

While it is true that this person's ban has been reversed, it really shouldn't have happened in the first place.

We can try to disregard these kind of posts, but they're causing actual problems whether we disregard them or not.

[Kimberly]

I'd be surprised if Infinity personally issued the ban himself.

 

That said it's not a matter of disregarding Infinity's posts, but taking it with a pound and a half of salt.

[rs4ever]

With the festive aura coming out in about a day what is the most efficient skill to train while using the aura?

[G0d_vs_D3vil]

agility , rc since they are lowest xp/h overall

[LogOnBeach]

What about div or is it faster than agil/rc now?