Peever Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 what was success's name before it was success No idea. 4.9b xp and i've never seen this person before. 100% eoc & sof i guess. yet i was pretty much 200m rc fish and wc before sof promos go do your research out of all front pagers you have most likely the least amount of time spent on skills. I remember when players used to flame fors, but at least he has some good ranks in slow skills. you couldnt be more wrong my lack of decent ranks in skills is me leaving skills at 180/190m and finishing with lamps dailies distraction and diversions etc i did rc without bonus before challenges/bxp/ fish was done before bxp and 140m wc was done before bxp Of course i know that you and many others leave them in the 190s. Telling me that changes nothing. Just looking at your combat/slay/summoning ranks tells me that they're all done after eoc, saving an insane amount of time. If you think doing 200m runecrafting without bonus xp @ runespan changes my mind, you're wrong. Why are you blaming him because Jagex introduced better methods? tbh new methods put me at a huge disadvantage had to make an extra 5b on shf lost 1.5k hours that training agil would have given to not only make gp on alts but to claw back my rank and catch up and then sof promos which i didnt rly benefit from being 200m rc already + shf meant i had to wbs farm which meant i had to do 100m mining legit and yet she still wants to hate seems you just cant please some people lmfao Haters gonna hate..... Gotta make the game work for you sometimes..... Jagex introduced new ways to train and people use them.. SHOCK. Nice gains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizarrely Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 what was success's name before it was success No idea. 4.9b xp and i've never seen this person before. 100% eoc & sof i guess. yet i was pretty much 200m rc fish and wc before sof promos go do your research out of all front pagers you have most likely the least amount of time spent on skills. I remember when players used to flame fors, but at least he has some good ranks in slow skills. you couldnt be more wrong my lack of decent ranks in skills is me leaving skills at 180/190m and finishing with lamps dailies distraction and diversions etc i did rc without bonus before challenges/bxp/ fish was done before bxp and 140m wc was done before bxp Of course i know that you and many others leave them in the 190s. Telling me that changes nothing. Just looking at your combat/slay/summoning ranks tells me that they're all done after eoc, saving an insane amount of time. If you think doing 200m runecrafting without bonus xp @ runespan changes my mind, you're wrong. Why are you blaming him because Jagex introduced better methods? tbh new methods put me at a huge disadvantage had to make an extra 5b on shf lost 1.5k hours that training agil would have given to not only make gp on alts but to claw back my rank and catch up and then sof promos which i didnt rly benefit from being 200m rc already + shf meant i had to wbs farm which meant i had to do 100m mining legit and yet she still wants to hate seems you just cant please some people lmfao Haters gonna hate..... Gotta make the game work for you sometimes..... Jagex introduced new ways to train and people use them.. SHOCK. Nice gains thanks :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swisscooler_ Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Remember folks: the more efficient you are, the more respect you'll earn from your peers... unless you choose to train in the absolutely most efficient way possible via microtransactions; in which case, everyone will hate you because there's a limit on how efficient you're allowed to be :lol:Not true. I respect the most work that was put into one's achievements. If you spent your RuneScape career nolifing your ass off doing slow non-afkables, I'll respect that much more than people who did easy afkable and fast skilling. Also the amount of time put in plays a big role too.yeah because with a rs career you can get realy far in lifeat least from the chair to the kitchen for getting some food, or like most of nolifers who live at home with an age of 24 noliving rs, letting their parents work hard to afford their son/daughter while they "enjoy" clicking on a screen. and the joke of this is, that they're really much people who think this way, which is really sad.... but that's way to off topiclets talk about how good most people are cause of efficiency and how bad some others are because they afk the game while studying for a bit less xp but for a rl career and not clicking on the computer achieving totally nothing in life.... oh wait, many rd players think they're achieving something :DWhich is sad too. and yeah i know, it's not the best english but i think anyone will get this because of my name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 People play efficiently to work towards a goal and/or compete, so even if they've been out of school/work for a few years, these type of people would usually still have what it takes to achieve their real life goals (as long as these goals are realistic enough) if they apply the same motivation once they finish their virtual goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swisscooler_ Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 People play efficiently to work towards a goal and/or compete, so even if they've been out of school/work for a few years, these type of people would usually still have what it takes to achieve their real life goals (as long as these goals are realistic enough) if they apply the same motivation once they finish their virtual goals.You can't compare achieving goals in a game with achieving things like writing bachelor or do an apprentorship, yes it's trur that they 'would' have what it takes 'cause they can grind for months (and sadly... years) but i bet that almost no one of the top players have something like a real job/apprentorship or even finished university. and if you think about itwhat will get your far in life, playing runescape for over 20'000 hrs with quitting school (which is a common fact that many players did this) or studying/working for 20'000 hours? But after all, it's not my life, i can't judge them because of this.i'm just sure that i wouldn't ever be able to live on the cost of someone (mostly the parents) just because i wanna play a game cause of addiction. it's like a junky, wasting cash and in the end he has nothing won with the drug. But still he thinks that, that what he does is "right" because they enjoy it. (And i know quite many junkies so i totally know what i'm talking about) Both is unhealthy, damages the social life and in the end you're just dead and have nothing achieved.and in both categories they don't think like that. best example, when suomi quitted before 200m all he said that the game has destroyed his life, even if it was a great time, that's the samr thing which junkies are saying.but he came back and started enjoying it again.that's the same what junkies are saying. so, is it really an achievement playing for 15 hrs a day rather then going far in real life?I wouldn't be proud of sitting on my ass for 15 hrs calling my mom to bring food becsuse i don't wanna waste xp and then telling someone i'm working hard but they don't even lift. Lol best example is jebrim, he thinks he is a highly rated person because he spent over 15000 hrs training agility which does'nt take an effort, yeah i know i wouldn't be able to do that. But if i would be, i would TOTALLY NOT be proud of that.The only exceptions are the youtubers, 'cause it's their work. The community of rs is [bleep]ed up nowadays lol it's really sad reading this thread and see what game junkies are thinking of their addiction. Merry christmas, if anyone is celebrating thisi know it's xp waste (that's what suomi said 2 years ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auror Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 So, how far is Alkan from 5,2b now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHNI Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 So, how far is Alkan from 5,2b now?Negative 51 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Flux Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 wow it's been that long already? we're going to see alot of 5.2bs in early 2015, so heads up as Almostlost and Roger Al are neck and neck with many others climbing their way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 @swisscooler, please not this discussion again. We have had the same discussion for many many times here and most of the time mods had to come in between. Both sides kept disagreeing with eachother and it went ugly :| http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swisscooler_ Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 @swisscooler, please not this discussion again. We have had the same discussion for many many times here and most of the time mods had to come in between. Both sides kept disagreeing with eachother and it went ugly :|Yrah i knowsorry for that but i had to say something 'cause it really pisses mr off if someone saying things like they're doing hard achievements If i'm not allowed to say something against it, then the other side shouldn't be allowed to say things for it (like jebrim and many other does)Better just keep silence about it at alland with that post i stop posting things about that.Atleast until someone says again things like hard achievement etc. good night and merry christmas againi didn't wanted to be mean, i just made a statement of my opinion.Sorry if someone felt attacked better don't care about me and go for xpi'm just a guy achieving things in reallifei shouldn't be here anyway have a nice "life" everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 ^don't worry, you are allowed to have an opinion about it (and I am in no position to tell you that you cannot discuss it), you are certainly not the only one thinking like that, but previous discussions just ended up in fights (from my experience). Maybe it would be better that if we discuss this, it would be in a separate threat. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Remember folks: the more efficient you are, the more respect you'll earn from your peers... unless you choose to train in the absolutely most efficient way possible via microtransactions; in which case, everyone will hate you because there's a limit on how efficient you're allowed to be :lol:Not true. I respect the most work that was put into one's achievements. If you spent your RuneScape career nolifing your ass off doing slow non-afkables, I'll respect that much more than people who did easy afkable and fast skilling. Also the amount of time put in plays a big role too.If we run agility laps together and I'm inefficient and slow as [bleep], will you respect me more than if I was able to keep up with you? :P Micro-efficiency > macro-efficiency Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 People play efficiently to work towards a goal and/or compete, so even if they've been out of school/work for a few years, these type of people would usually still have what it takes to achieve their real life goals (as long as these goals are realistic enough) if they apply the same motivation once they finish their virtual goals.You can't compare achieving goals in a game with achieving things like writing bachelor or do an apprentorship, yes it's trur that they 'would' have what it takes 'cause they can grind for months (and sadly... years) but i bet that almost no one of the top players have something like a real job/apprentorship or even finished university. and if you think about itwhat will get your far in life, playing runescape for over 20'000 hrs with quitting school (which is a common fact that many players did this) or studying/working for 20'000 hours? But after all, it's not my life, i can't judge them because of this.i'm just sure that i wouldn't ever be able to live on the cost of someone (mostly the parents) just because i wanna play a game cause of addiction. it's like a junky, wasting cash and in the end he has nothing won with the drug. But still he thinks that, that what he does is "right" because they enjoy it. (And i know quite many junkies so i totally know what i'm talking about)Both is unhealthy, damages the social life and in the end you're just dead and have nothing achieved.and in both categories they don't think like that. best example, when suomi quitted before 200m all he said that the game has destroyed his life, even if it was a great time, that's the samr thing which junkies are saying.but he came back and started enjoying it again.that's the same what junkies are saying. so, is it really an achievement playing for 15 hrs a day rather then going far in real life?I wouldn't be proud of sitting on my ass for 15 hrs calling my mom to bring food becsuse i don't wanna waste xp and then telling someone i'm working hard but they don't even lift. Lol best example is jebrim, he thinks he is a highly rated person because he spent over 15000 hrs training agility which does'nt take an effort, yeah i know i wouldn't be able to do that. But if i would be, i would TOTALLY NOT be proud of that.The only exceptions are the youtubers, 'cause it's their work. The community of rs is [bleep]ed up nowadays lol it's really sad reading this thread and see what game junkies are thinking of their addiction. Merry christmas, if anyone is celebrating thisi know it's xp waste (that's what suomi said 2 years ago) I haven't lived with family or even had a Christmas with them in 6 years. My mother died unexpectedly a month and a half ago as well. I hadn't seen her in over 2 years. A close friend died a couple weeks ago too. I pushed myself through college and am days away from getting my degree. I'll be getting a job soon as a software engineer, something that pays very well. I spent the past few months falling in love with an amazing girl, only to lose her to someone else. I barely play RuneScape these days. My life has been very eventful. Don't pretend you know anything about me. 2 Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 @swisscooler, please not this discussion again. We have had the same discussion for many many times here and most of the time mods had to come in between. Both sides kept disagreeing with eachother and it went ugly :|Yrah i knowsorry for that but i had to say something 'cause it really pisses mr off if someone saying things like they're doing hard achievements If i'm not allowed to say something against it, then the other side shouldn't be allowed to say things for it (like jebrim and many other does)Better just keep silence about it at alland with that post i stop posting things about that.Atleast until someone says again things like hard achievement etc. good night and merry christmas againi didn't wanted to be mean, i just made a statement of my opinion.Sorry if someone felt attackedbetter don't care about me and go for xpi'm just a guy achieving things in reallifei shouldn't be here anyway have a nice "life" everyone Please, not this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Flux Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 ^^ and let's get back on topic for what this thread is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Levelled Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 People play efficiently to work towards a goal and/or compete, so even if they've been out of school/work for a few years, these type of people would usually still have what it takes to achieve their real life goals (as long as these goals are realistic enough) if they apply the same motivation once they finish their virtual goals.You can't compare achieving goals in a game with achieving things like writing bachelor or do an apprentorship, yes it's trur that they 'would' have what it takes 'cause they can grind for months (and sadly... years) but i bet that almost no one of the top players have something like a real job/apprentorship or even finished university. and if you think about itwhat will get your far in life, playing runescape for over 20'000 hrs with quitting school (which is a common fact that many players did this) or studying/working for 20'000 hours? But after all, it's not my life, i can't judge them because of this.i'm just sure that i wouldn't ever be able to live on the cost of someone (mostly the parents) just because i wanna play a game cause of addiction. it's like a junky, wasting cash and in the end he has nothing won with the drug. But still he thinks that, that what he does is "right" because they enjoy it. (And i know quite many junkies so i totally know what i'm talking about)Both is unhealthy, damages the social life and in the end you're just dead and have nothing achieved.and in both categories they don't think like that. best example, when suomi quitted before 200m all he said that the game has destroyed his life, even if it was a great time, that's the samr thing which junkies are saying.but he came back and started enjoying it again.that's the same what junkies are saying. so, is it really an achievement playing for 15 hrs a day rather then going far in real life?I wouldn't be proud of sitting on my ass for 15 hrs calling my mom to bring food becsuse i don't wanna waste xp and then telling someone i'm working hard but they don't even lift. Lol best example is jebrim, he thinks he is a highly rated person because he spent over 15000 hrs training agility which does'nt take an effort, yeah i know i wouldn't be able to do that. But if i would be, i would TOTALLY NOT be proud of that.The only exceptions are the youtubers, 'cause it's their work. The community of rs is [bleep]ed up nowadays lol it's really sad reading this thread and see what game junkies are thinking of their addiction. Merry christmas, if anyone is celebrating thisi know it's xp waste (that's what suomi said 2 years ago)I haven't lived with family or even had a Christmas with them in 6 years. My mother died unexpectedly a month and a half ago as well. I hadn't seen her in over 2 years. A close friend died a couple weeks ago too. I pushed myself through college and am days away from getting my degree. I'll be getting a job soon as a software engineer, something that pays very well. I spent the past few months falling in love with an amazing girl, only to lose her to someone else. I barely play RuneScape these days. My life has been very eventful. Don't pretend you anything about me.And if you think runescape didn't hold you back on achieving these things, lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Remember folks: the more efficient you are, the more respect you'll earn from your peers... unless you choose to train in the absolutely most efficient way possible via microtransactions; in which case, everyone will hate you because there's a limit on how efficient you're allowed to be :lol:Not true. I respect the most work that was put into one's achievements. If you spent your RuneScape career nolifing your ass off doing slow non-afkables, I'll respect that much more than people who did easy afkable and fast skilling. Also the amount of time put in plays a big role too.If we run agility laps together and I'm inefficient and slow as [bleep], will you respect me more than if I was able to keep up with you? :P Micro-efficiency > macro-efficiency IDK what that means lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Micro-efficiency would be counting out ticks for when to click on the last obstacle on an Agility course. Macro-efficiency would be choosing which course to use, for example. At least that's my interpretation. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I think the main problem I have with some of these comments is holding everyone else to your own standards. Implying that that someone else is wrong because they don't value/work towards/respect the same things that any certain individual does ..? People are going to do what they enjoy and how they reach and approach those situations shouldn't matter. [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Micro is maximizing your Xp/hr (skill) at a particular method whereas Macro is picking the general method to train at. Micro = most efficient way to train at a course (perfect laps); macro = most efficient course to train at. Not limited to just Agility. Most Overall players tend to focus on the macro and just do it lazily without becoming pro at it. Real skill is in the micro and that's far more important in impressiveness than knowing which place to train at. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swisscooler_ Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Micro is maximizing your Xp/hr (skill) at a particular method whereas Macro is picking the general method to train at. Micro = most efficient way to train at a course (perfect laps); macro = most efficient course to train at. Not limited to just Agility. Most Overall players tend to focus on the macro and just do it lazily without becoming pro at it. Real skill is in the micro and that's far more important in impressiveness than knowing which place to train at.micro = sof 'cause it's most efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenvikteam Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Micro is maximizing your Xp/hr (skill) at a particular method whereas Macro is picking the general method to train at. Micro = most efficient way to train at a course (perfect laps); macro = most efficient course to train at. Not limited to just Agility. Most Overall players tend to focus on the macro and just do it lazily without becoming pro at it. Real skill is in the micro and that's far more important in impressiveness than knowing which place to train at.micro = sof 'cause it's most efficient i think you mean macro 2 My yt: https://www.youtube.com/user/mrstenvikteam my twitter: https://twitter.com/NoToAfkPray_OS 200m Prayer achieved 24/07/14200m Construction achieved 25/08/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peever Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I've never seen so much petty arguing in my life. And its all over a game...... PIXELS!!! Why does it really matter how much or often someone plays? We all make our own choices in life and if we are happy with those choices than who cares. This thread is a microcosm of what is wrong with the human race as a whole. I don't like what your doing so your wrong!!! Everyone needs to just take a breath and relax. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and there is nothing wrong with debating peoples opinions but making fun of them is too far and a bit childish. As Jebrim proved no one knows anything (generally) about the person behind the account... Now...... How long before all first page 5.2? End of 2015? Mid 2015? Sooner? Later? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You're saying we shouldn't care about what others do? That's not a good way to live your life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr148 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 How does cutting crystal trees then doing c2 fishing compare to doing c2 wcing and c2 fishing at the same time? http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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