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Personally I'm a bit disappointed that the meta has become so well established that there simply aren't new feasible (In terms of time efficiency) methods being discovered. I loved seeing all the abstract things that people came up with whether it was as simple as fletching while training other skills, or lava geyser mining. I'm personally hoping that more of this happens with invention to help mix up the race to (then) 5.6b and possibly give those who don't hit 5.4 by then a chance to catch up.

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Also, yeah, I miss seeing everyone still discovering all these methods, now it's all known, etc, hopefully inventor changes some stuff around like that as you said.

 

Here is a very fun project just for you licert! in case jagex nerfs barb assault and we need a new quick way to agility for us non silverhawk boot players, You should go do us all a favor and spend hours and hours on figuring out how to do fpf like Jebrim did then report it back to us! You can make a guide and everything. I know you wont, even though you seem to be upset that there are no methods to discover.

 

Jeez, passive aggressive much?

I haven't logged on in a week and I'm not about to log on for agility, you can go do it for me if you'd like. I'm not upset about new methods not being discovered, why would you think that..? Couldn't care less about methods or this game in general ATM.

 

 

I wish FPF were still the best method. Even if Silverhawks were nerfed, doing Barbarian Assault and Treasure Hunter for bonus Xp and then doing Advanced Barb is still better Xp. As far as I am aware, bonus Xp does not work for FPF.

 

The biggest reason I never published any guide about FPF was due to the sheer amount of complexity and level of content involved. I tried before to even do a beginner guide to advanced strategies. Finding a way to communicate everything proved very difficult and ultimately the guide was way too unclear to publish. There was also a strong incentive not to encourage FPF, as more people doing FPF means less opportunities for you to have the world alone to yourself (something required for maximum Xp gains).

 

And even if someone else were motivated to actually master the place and spend hundreds of hours practicing and revising strategies, I still doubt they could master it to the degree that I did. I really have not seen a strong enough emphasis on tick counting within the efficiency community and adding up ticks over various mini-route options is EXTREMELY important for figuring out FPF strategies.

 

Furthermore there is a diminishing returns on Xp/hr increases. Every further 1k Xp/hr increase involves an increasingly higher amount of complexity, memorization, and time investment. I have yet to see anyone motivate themselves to improve that much in anything in RS other than for Dungeoneering and GOP.

 

 

I remember seeing your video guide for it and I'll agree. You lost me pretty quickly

 

 

I never made a public video guide. The only video I did do with any real advice was only seen by 2-3 others.


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I actually do recall you sharing a video on this thread regarding fpf. I think it was about 6 months ago. I'll try find it tomorrow morning.

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I also remember that you once posted some sort of video guide here regarding FpF. Mostly just to show how complex it can be.

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Also celestial dragons for slayer takes some questing, and that 6th age circuit for div takes even more quests than glacors.  The tasks are usually useful, not sure how many are worth their time tho.  Varrock armour used to be good before mining was destroyed (RIP in pieces LRC)

 

Also does anyone know of a good heist guide, one with the best xp/hr.  Ive never done heist do you have to pay to afk the whole thing or is that actually the best way to do it?  If it is someone pm me to heist with them, or if you want to do sc pm me also.

By doing the quesrs for glacors you've pretty much done every quest needed for the 6th age ring. Comp is extremely easy the only xp waster islivid, eveything else is quick and give decent benefits. Plus it looks decent and max cape looks rubbish

 

Livid isn't xpwaste since it does technically give experience. Also if you wanted to be more efficient there are many simple ways to incorporate experience into livid farm, not limited to cannoning suqah's (not sure if this is still viable, haven't done suqahs in years) and fletching bolts to name a couple. 

 

Livid farm takes 45 hours and gives 1.85m magic xp, 1.5m farming xp, 600k crafting xp, 300k construction xp, and 275k agility xp. That's a waste of 40 hours.

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I did livid a long time ago just for the remote farm spell. Sure you can use timers and stuff for trees but it makes farming so much easier, and if doing herbs it's damn near a requirement. And not long ago it was always recommended to do herb runs due to how profitable they were (and the bit of farm xp).

 

So yea I wasted time there but at 142m farm I couldn't be more pleased with that waste.


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World hopping for livid farm can be like 30k or more points.  I know that during that double livid weekend it took me about 5 minutes to learn how to do it and i started out getting about 30k and after about 15mins i was getting like 37k.  So im sure people who had more than 15 minutes of practice (there was only 1.5 hours left in the weekend when i was told) could probably get even better than 37k an hour.

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Oh good i have some new mods who dislike me and are quick to remove my posts, thats great.

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Oh good i have some new mods who dislike me and are quick to remove my posts, thats great.

 

It isn't removed. It is merely moved to the 200m all thread in the Old School Section ;).

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Also celestial dragons for slayer takes some questing, and that 6th age circuit for div takes even more quests than glacors.  The tasks are usually useful, not sure how many are worth their time tho.  Varrock armour used to be good before mining was destroyed (RIP in pieces LRC)

 

Also does anyone know of a good heist guide, one with the best xp/hr.  Ive never done heist do you have to pay to afk the whole thing or is that actually the best way to do it?  If it is someone pm me to heist with them, or if you want to do sc pm me also.

By doing the quesrs for glacors you've pretty much done every quest needed for the 6th age ring. Comp is extremely easy the only xp waster islivid, eveything else is quick and give decent benefits. Plus it looks decent and max cape looks rubbish

 

Livid isn't xpwaste since it does technically give experience. Also if you wanted to be more efficient there are many simple ways to incorporate experience into livid farm, not limited to cannoning suqah's (not sure if this is still viable, haven't done suqahs in years) and fletching bolts to name a couple. 

 

Livid farm takes 45 hours and gives 1.85m magic xp, 1.5m farming xp, 600k crafting xp, 300k construction xp, and 275k agility xp. That's a waste of 40 hours.

 

If your goal was to only get max experience then yes, it would be a waste of time doing livid.

 

Realistically though, a lot of players want a completionist cape.

 

You can do livid by itself without doing any other activities between rounds, that would be a waste of experience. If you incorporate other things into it, you are wasting less experience. I'm sure someone has figured out a way to gain the maximum amount of experience in the number of hours it requires to finish livid, therefore wasting no experience.

 

Again I'm going to state that it depends on what a player defines to be useful on his or her account, this ultimately affects which activities are considered wasteful or not.


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We were discussing if it would be worth it to do livid farm if you weren't going for a completionist cape.

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What do you guys think about Pieter/Host Pieter now, i saw him recently getting alot of xp. 

 

Whats his time to 200m all?:)

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We were discussing if it would be worth it to do livid farm if you weren't going for a completionist cape.

 

oh my bad i must have misread

 

yeah in that case its a waste 


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What do you guys think about Pieter/Host Pieter now, i saw him recently getting alot of xp. 

 

Whats his time to 200m all? :)

He's 3225 hours away. I think that puts him at 10th place. He could pass Crystal Farm, My Kingz, and Roger Al if he plays enough.

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I also remember that you once posted some sort of video guide here regarding FpF. Mostly just to show how complex it can be.

 

Then it was a different video and definitely not anything remotely resembling a guide. The video I was thinking of only has 8 views, so clearly that's not what you saw. I have other (public) videos regarding FPF, but they don't actually go into specific strategies or anything. I think you guys just got confused into thinking it was a guide.


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I also remember that you once posted some sort of video guide here regarding FpF. Mostly just to show how complex it can be.

 

Then it was a different video and definitely not anything remotely resembling a guide. The video I was thinking of only has 8 views, so clearly that's not what you saw. I have other (public) videos regarding FPF, but they don't actually go into specific strategies or anything. I think you guys just got confused into thinking it was a guide.

 

Yeah that's most likely the case.


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I think this is what you posted here

 

Also what happened to all the videos with the bright flashing colours like 5/6 years ago >_>

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After watching that video, I am certain I watched something else. Didn't you make a program that would calculate the best path? I remember seeing that in one of your videos and I didn't see it in the above video. Would it be possible for you to PM me the video you are thinking of?


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After watching that video, I am certain I watched something else. Didn't you make a program that would calculate the best path? I remember seeing that in one of your videos and I didn't see it in the above video. Would it be possible for you to PM me the video you are thinking of?

Is it this?

 


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Close but not quite. I can't really lay the finger on it. Could just be me tho for not remembering it clearly.


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FPF is a great example of a good update.  For content to be used it needs to be worth your time, but the xp rates were justified.  Id rather see faster methods come into the game like that.  And also, even though fpf was great, i still can't believe silver hawk boots ruined agility when it was in such a good place.  The bonus xp helped some people with the monotony but the xp rates were still boosted just slightly overall, and it also got more people to BA and work as a team.  It was bringing people together and also got people training agility more.  Its too late now to do anything about sh boots but its just a shame they did that to agility when it was so good

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Close but not quite. I can't really lay the finger on it. Could just be me tho for not remembering it clearly.

are you mixing up agility and one of his cannon/backwalking videos?

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Close but not quite. I can't really lay the finger on it. Could just be me tho for not remembering it clearly.

are you mixing up agility and one of his cannon/backwalking videos?

 

 

Definitly not! I guess I will never know what I actually saw =C.


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I did an hour-long commentary at FPF. I used to recommend people to mute the video and just watch what I do as I train normally and try to figure out some of my strategies that way.

 

 

One of the biggest things I always kept in mind as I trained was the number of tick differences between different routes. Going left was 3 more ticks than going right, assuming all doors are open, etc. So you count the doors shut in both paths and change your route accordingly towards the faster one. Or maybe the center route just happened to be open in an optimal way and you add that to your calculations. Maybe the act of opening up the southern door on the east side opens up the center door as well and so you change your plan and hop through the center instead. So you must in a split second decide look at all the doors in your available path and make a mental calculation and click on the route you're going. Over time, after having done this awhile, you start to memorize the decisions you've made in the past for certain doors and it becomes easier to do on instinct. Then on occasions you come to a revelation about a newer way you could potentially go faster and you have to start doing lots more calculations and memorization to get that down as well. FPF is a constant building up of knowledge and skill on top of the old with occasional refinement along the way.


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I think that is the one I saw!

 

Jebrim, you can disregard the PM now =3!


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If I were to go back to FPF today, I'd be able to do it efficiently from muscle memory alone (minus the latest stuff I had improved on). However, I wouldn't be able to improve my Xp rate one bit for a while. During my time gone, I've forgotten all the tick numbers I had memorized. I'd have to refigure out a lot of stuff.


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