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Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

 

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway.

prob only worth it if u were in a ba clan or something.

I think the forced roles thing/lack of connections or timezones makes ba harder than dg in terms of finding quality players to play with most people can do decent attacking/collecting but its hard to be a defender/healer and the ba horn only stores 1.3m exp so it would be way too much break betwee using/having to find people and playing. if the horn stored 10m exp for example it would be easier to train longterm and fill it up alot when on good team and empty when noones on.

 

I think people will NOT use ba for the majority of agility


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Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

 

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway.

prob only worth it if u were in a ba clan or something.

I think the forced roles thing/lack of connections or timezones makes ba harder than dg in terms of finding quality players to play with most people can do decent attacking/collecting but its hard to be a defender/healer and the ba horn only stores 1.3m exp so it would be way too much break betwee using/having to find people and playing. if the horn stored 10m exp for example it would be easier to train longterm and fill it up alot when on good team and empty when noones on.

 

I think people will NOT use ba for the majority of agility

If you don't actively train agility and only train it when you have charge in your horn, 100k agility xp an hour isn't hard at all- even the BA teams in dgs can manage that. If you were a member of BAA and did BA as frequently as you could, i can't see any problem with managing that as an average- what jebrim is forgetting is that if your goal is anything reasonable(ie, not 1b agility xp) you will have other things to do, too, so there isn't any time lost waiting for teams and such. For 200m in all skills, it's definitely reasonable to use horn for all that xp- you are only depending on other people for around 33% of the time of training agility.


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If you don't actively train agility and only train it when you have charge in your horn, 100k agility xp an hour isn't hard at all- even the BA teams in dgs can manage that. If you were a member of BAA and did BA as frequently as you could, i can't see any problem with managing that as an average- what jebrim is forgetting is that if your goal is anything reasonable(ie, not 1b agility xp) you will have other things to do, too, so there isn't any time lost waiting for teams and such. For 200m in all skills, it's definitely reasonable to use horn for all that xp- you are only depending on other people for around 33% of the time of training agility.

True, it is not hard to fill a horn in short time. Since Jebrim II is probably a lvl 3 cb, this would not be an option for him since he would have to leech BA 100% of his time there or train combat. But for a balanced player, BA makes agility indeed a lot faster.

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If you don't actively train agility and only train it when you have charge in your horn, 100k agility xp an hour isn't hard at all- even the BA teams in dgs can manage that. If you were a member of BAA and did BA as frequently as you could, i can't see any problem with managing that as an average- what jebrim is forgetting is that if your goal is anything reasonable(ie, not 1b agility xp) you will have other things to do, too, so there isn't any time lost waiting for teams and such. For 200m in all skills, it's definitely reasonable to use horn for all that xp- you are only depending on other people for around 33% of the time of training agility.

True, it is not hard to fill a horn in short time. Since Jebrim II is probably a lvl 3 cb, this would not be an option for him since he would have to leech BA 100% of his time there or train combat. But for a balanced player, BA makes agility indeed a lot faster.

Probably should leave this to Jebrim but I think his agility pures are getting 35hp each for agile armour


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Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

 

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway.

 

You guys are all missing my point. You talk a lot about the theory, but in practice, it does not work. Nobody has done any significant amount of Xp while agiling with the BA horn and obtained better Xp/hr overall.

 

As for the person who mentioned BAA, that clan sucks L.


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Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

 

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway.

 

You guys are all missing my point. You talk a lot about the theory, but in practice, it does not work. Nobody has done any significant amount of Xp while agiling with the BA horn and obtained better Xp/hr overall.

 

As for the person who mentioned BAA, that clan sucks L.

How can you exactly tell if someone does or doesn't manage this? As you'd only train when you have a full horn, the xp would be highly inconsistent within weeks and days, but the average per playing hour would still be over 100k an hour. For 200m in all skills, you could fill the horn once a week and empty it, thus taking ~3 years for 200m, so by no means is this impossible(or even hard). The only case where there could be a problem with this is if your sole goal in rs is to train agility, and that is too rare to even consider.


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People like him can't just quit.

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Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

 

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway.

 

You guys are all missing my point. You talk a lot about the theory, but in practice, it does not work. Nobody has done any significant amount of Xp while agiling with the BA horn and obtained better Xp/hr overall.

 

As for the person who mentioned BAA, that clan sucks L.

How can you exactly tell if someone does or doesn't manage this? As you'd only train when you have a full horn, the xp would be highly inconsistent within weeks and days, but the average per playing hour would still be over 100k an hour. For 200m in all skills, you could fill the horn once a week and empty it, thus taking ~3 years for 200m, so by no means is this impossible(or even hard). The only case where there could be a problem with this is if your sole goal in rs is to train agility, and that is too rare to even consider.

Because I know everybody with at least 50m+ Agility Xp and not one of those has ever used the strategy you guys are claiming works. Also, it is NOT best to make the horn completely full, as you risk overfilling it. Furthermore, it isn't even necessary to empty the horn out completely either. If your pro team is ready, it'd be far better to just do BA to maintain some points in your horn. All that matters is to never let the horn go empty. Being full is not a requirement. This is all of course assuming that it actually is better than normal training.


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People like him can't just quit.

 

Why

 

smoke crack few a few years and then try to quit

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People like him can't just quit.

 

Why

 

smoke crack few a few years and then try to quit

 

People have done that and they got a better life.

 

OT: Suomi is keeping up the pace with slayer.

Telmomarques seems to be refusing to get that last bit of xp for 200m Hunter.

Tezz is also hunting at the moment.

It looks like Drumgun hardly fletches anymore with this new update, but he's still fishing a lot at rocktails.


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People like him can't just quit.

 

Why

 

smoke crack few a few years and then try to quit

 

I'd rather smoke crack than play RuneScape excessively for years


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Because I know everybody with at least 50m+ Agility Xp and not one of those has ever used the strategy you guys are claiming works. Also, it is NOT best to make the horn completely full, as you risk overfilling it. Furthermore, it isn't even necessary to empty the horn out completely either. If your pro team is ready, it'd be far better to just do BA to maintain some points in your horn. All that matters is to never let the horn go empty. Being full is not a requirement. This is all of course assuming that it actually is better than normal training.

That just speaks for the popularity of the skill, not that this doesn't or wouldn't work. People hate agility and very rarely train it over 99, and of those who do train over 99, only those who aren't 100% deadset on training agility can manage this strategy, namely people going for 200m all skills, and of those, not many have gotten around to do agility yet(most only bother with easier skills).

 

I think it's pretty preposterous to question if using the horn is worth it- if a decent team can fill the horn in 4-4,5 hours and it lasts for 8,5-9 hours of training, it's clearly worth it. Also, teams who fill horn would generally want to do a full fill in one run, so that's why this would be a good strategy. It's also much easier to manage this strategy if you have alot of friends who need to do BA regularly(hell, even people in this top 15 can manage to team together to make this work).


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People in the top 15 clearly all AFK train

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Fill horn in 3 hours? With an average of 11 rounds per horn, that would be 16.36 minutes per round. The RECORD is just under 17 minutes for a round, and that has only been done ONCE, so this is not a realistic time. Four hours or four hours and twenty minutes is far more realistic and could be managed, making the horn reallistically useful.

 

However... I do agree with Jebrim. I have used the horn for a few millions of Agility exp, and I used to play BA long before the horn ever came out, I played it all day long for over a year, right from the release date, without any rewards of note. At that time, there were a lot of people who were pretty active BA players, but we all got a bit less active and couldn't manage 10+ rounds every day anymore. New players may be more active at first, but those few new excited players will not give you the sheer amount of players to pick from that you would need to get 200M Agility with the horn in an efficient way.

 

What I'm saying is: Try to get 20M straight Agility exp with the horn and take note of your mental state and the possible amount of time that your horn runs dry. You will either be going back and forth between BA and the Barbarian course and PMing while you're doing Agility, or your horn will run dry very often. I strongly doubt that it would be possible to find a team of active BA players that is large enough for you to be playing BA in such a way that your horn stays sufficiently full all the time. Sometimes there won't be 4 other players(remember, you might have 3 good players, but that's not enough; you always need at least 4), sometimes there will be enough for one round but then they have to go and you're going back and forth between BA and Agility 20 times a day; what does that do to your training morale?

 

Even though it's theoretically possible, the realistic approach to the logistics and the mental toughness required to do this is one that I am not able to find. And let me point out: Most people who have played BA ever since the release only use the horn to get 99s. Either they quit or they just don't care for exp. Loving BA and loving Agility enough to get vast amounts of experience is not a combo that I have found in anyone.

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Because I know everybody with at least 50m+ Agility Xp and not one of those has ever used the strategy you guys are claiming works. Also, it is NOT best to make the horn completely full, as you risk overfilling it. Furthermore, it isn't even necessary to empty the horn out completely either. If your pro team is ready, it'd be far better to just do BA to maintain some points in your horn. All that matters is to never let the horn go empty. Being full is not a requirement. This is all of course assuming that it actually is better than normal training.

That just speaks for the popularity of the skill, not that this doesn't or wouldn't work. People hate agility and very rarely train it over 99, and of those who do train over 99, only those who aren't 100% deadset on training agility can manage this strategy, namely people going for 200m all skills, and of those, not many have gotten around to do agility yet(most only bother with easier skills).

 

I think it's pretty preposterous to question if using the horn is worth it- if a decent team can fill the horn in 4-4,5 hours and it lasts for 8,5-9 hours of training, it's clearly worth it. Also, teams who fill horn would generally want to do a full fill in one run, so that's why this would be a good strategy. It's also much easier to manage this strategy if you have alot of friends who need to do BA regularly(hell, even people in this top 15 can manage to team together to make this work).

If you use a set team, every person will be using up their horn at a different rate than other people (unless you always start with everyone who is empty). If one person for any reason needs to go, or if one person fills their horn before the rest, then the rest of the team is [bleep]ed. They have to either sit around waiting for a replacement, or they stop their session and go back to training. The latter would be the best decision.

 

Name one person who is using this strategy you're advocating (filling a horn when a team is available, agiling until it's empty, and then doing another skill until a team is ready again). Name one person who is using this over a lengthy period of time and is also averaging better than 72k Xp/hr from the moment they stop skilling to the moment they empty their horn at the course.


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If you don't actively train agility and only train it when you have charge in your horn, 100k agility xp an hour isn't hard at all- even the BA teams in dgs can manage that. If you were a member of BAA and did BA as frequently as you could, i can't see any problem with managing that as an average- what jebrim is forgetting is that if your goal is anything reasonable(ie, not 1b agility xp) you will have other things to do, too, so there isn't any time lost waiting for teams and such. For 200m in all skills, it's definitely reasonable to use horn for all that xp- you are only depending on other people for around 33% of the time of training agility.

True, it is not hard to fill a horn in short time. Since Jebrim II is probably a lvl 3 cb, this would not be an option for him since he would have to leech BA 100% of his time there or train combat. But for a balanced player, BA makes agility indeed a lot faster.

Probably should leave this to Jebrim but I think his agility pures are getting 35hp each for agile armour

 

I actually despise agile armour with a passion.


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If you use a set team, every person will be using up their horn at a different rate than other people (unless you always start with everyone who is empty). If one person for any reason needs to go, or if one person fills their horn before the rest, then the rest of the team is [bleep]ed. They have to either sit around waiting for a replacement, or they stop their session and go back to training. The latter would be the best decision.

Join a clan where theres a clan chat full of people ready to do ba. It would be like walking into the dung lobby in W117 and getting a team in 3 mins. The others don't even have to be training with the horn they could just love it. I'm not saying it's likely that anyone will do this (there aren't many people who train agil for a long period after 99 I'm sure you have a different idea of "that many" to what I do), I'm just saying its isn't as impossible as something like demonic thrones.

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1801 samaden seeds farmed with juju farming pots would give approx. 18010 mining potions.

 

each one lasts 15 minutes and people here have said they're in the 90k mining xp per hour range.

 

Enough there for 4500 hours of mining. 1 (3)-dose per 15 minutes - would give well, well over 200m mining xp - by my calcs enough to get 200m mining twice over, so maybe could use the other half on wc pots and afk that one too.

 

I had been curious if you could mostly afk 200m mining after hunter and apparently you can.

 

With draconic vine as a 2nd this is a very reasonable thing to consider as you'll have all the vines you'll ever need as 2nds. The main thing is probably to make sure you non-stop farm samadens whenever you're hunting.

 

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If you use a set team, every person will be using up their horn at a different rate than other people (unless you always start with everyone who is empty). If one person for any reason needs to go, or if one person fills their horn before the rest, then the rest of the team is [bleep]ed. They have to either sit around waiting for a replacement, or they stop their session and go back to training. The latter would be the best decision.

 

Name one person who is using this strategy you're advocating (filling a horn when a team is available, agiling until it's empty, and then doing another skill until a team is ready again). Name one person who is using this over a lengthy period of time and is also averaging better than 72k Xp/hr from the moment they stop skilling to the moment they empty their horn at the course.

The bolded part is really where you are going wrong. When your horn is empty and you don't have a team, it doesn't disallow you to do anything OTHER than agility, and agility is only one of the 25 skills in runescape. As said, with one full fill per week, you could do agility in 3 years, and managing to get 5 people together for 4 hours a week is VERY easy, particularly for the best players of the game.

 

As also said, agility is a very unpopular skill, and none of the active top 15 has actively trained agility yet, but when they will, it's highly likely they will use horn(or effigies, as i will).

 

Also, BA is much simpler than many would think. You basically only need 2 decent people and the other 3 can afk, still managing full fill in 4,5 hours.


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Jebrim you are crazy and awesome at the same time. GL on that 1B Agility exp. Seriously, it's amazing you have 335M already.


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If you use a set team, every person will be using up their horn at a different rate than other people (unless you always start with everyone who is empty). If one person for any reason needs to go, or if one person fills their horn before the rest, then the rest of the team is [bleep]ed. They have to either sit around waiting for a replacement, or they stop their session and go back to training. The latter would be the best decision.

 

Name one person who is using this strategy you're advocating (filling a horn when a team is available, agiling until it's empty, and then doing another skill until a team is ready again). Name one person who is using this over a lengthy period of time and is also averaging better than 72k Xp/hr from the moment they stop skilling to the moment they empty their horn at the course.

The bolded part is really where you are going wrong. When your horn is empty and you don't have a team, it doesn't disallow you to do anything OTHER than agility, and agility is only one of the 25 skills in runescape. As said, with one full fill per week, you could do agility in 3 years, and managing to get 5 people together for 4 hours a week is VERY easy, particularly for the best players of the game.

 

As also said, agility is a very unpopular skill, and none of the active top 15 has actively trained agility yet, but when they will, it's highly likely they will use horn(or effigies, as i will).

 

Also, BA is much simpler than many would think. You basically only need 2 decent people and the other 3 can afk, still managing full fill in 4,5 hours.

I agree with xpx, just because someone or you has not done it doesn't mean no one can/will. I will also say that I only agree with this because like xpx said this is very manageable if someone isn't going for 200m agility straight but rather in short burts or training it on the side, almost like farming. This might not be reasonable for the normal rs population but for a player going for 200m in all skills this is a very good way to go about it. It could be compared to crave crawlers in a sense, such that it has not been done over long periods but it's still the dominant efficient way to 200m in all skills and is possible.


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