Viv 31 Posted December 22, 2012 A raise on the exp cap would be aweful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 22, 2012 ah ok. How come you haven't tried itBecause my methodology works fine. Here's some problems that come to mind when I think of the Uberman strategy: - Waking up prematurely usually causes you to be tired for a bit, which eventually alleviates over time as you're awake. Making this more frequent will hardly help motivate or keep you awake. - Real life time is lost each time you spend a handful of minutes lying in bed both as you're trying to fall asleep and as you wake up. Doing this several times a day can add up to an extra hour lost from RS, even though you were technically awake. - A 6-hour cap on how long you can stay up straight is very limiting. Some flexibility is usually required as nothing ever goes exactly to plan. Furthermore, the most effective means of doing the Uberman would be to have someone wake you at a specified time. Alarm clocks or your internal human clock are risky and can be unreliable. At some point the person waking you up will have to sleep as well. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 22, 2012 Another popular strategy, although I don't personally like it, is to just do a huge bunch of time at once, like 2+ days straight, before finally sleeping and waking up naturally. This could be thought of as the opposite of Uberman. My main problem with this is that while you can get good hours, your Xp rate suffers greatly as time goes on. It's more efficient to catch a couple hours of shut-eye and then return at full Xp/hr than to continue at a diminished pace. Xp/hr loss is inevitable as your brain will start shutting down on its own, regardless of how much willpower you have. This method also gets significantly harder if you're not already well-rested. This is the strategy that Skiller 703 uses. Drumgun also used it when he did his 200m Overall week. He stayed up for over 4 days straight and boy did he lose Xp/hr lol. I was running secondaries for him on that final day. My personal strategy that I use for my week records that doesn't hurt my Xp, minimizes the level of tiredness I feel, and gives me the most flexibility while also making sure I stay on track is to sleep on a regular schedule once a day in the evening for 1-3 hours at a time. I use someone to wake me. In emergencies, an unscheduled hour or two can be used partway through a day. This should be made up by cutting that same amount of time from a later scheduled sleep period. Maintaining this for more than a week isn't really possible though. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 22, 2012 For a 160h week plus a 6h autolog at start, Skiller 703's method would be: Play 3 days 11 hours straight. Sleep 8 hours. Play 3 days 11 hours straight. My method would be sleep 1 hour per day for the 6 evenings and save 2 1-hour periods as backup for emergencies, since I'll probably need them at some point near the end. We both have made plans for how to achieve this so far unattained RS nolifing achievement. Neither of us have definite plans on actually doing it just yet though. If you're confused about the hours I specified, at this level we measure it by keeping track of hours slept and subtracting from 168, even if you end up doing 174 due to the 6h autolog. This is the convention used for pretty much any week over 140h since it is hard to get an accurate comparison between players from Xp rates alone and you're at such a small distance that tracking hours is more reliable. 1% in either direction for an Xp rate can have a huge difference in estimated hours and where people would rank. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
La Lars 1 Posted December 22, 2012 This might be useful for some people so I just though I would post this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6UncwUAKV8 Make sure you check the description. In regards to that video : When using mousekeys you can double click using those as well, easier than using left and right click. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfmon56 15 Posted December 22, 2012 20hrs a day only reaches you to 140hrs/week.. you'd need another 1hr per day which is only 3 hrs of not playing per day. There's 168 hours in a week. If he played for 160 hours it would leave him 8 hours of time off/sleep. Using a sleep cycle that "works" without the body to start shutting itself down would be the uberman sleeping pattern, but even with that having 6 twenty minute naps a day would mean that 14 hours of sleep per week. With a maximum of 8 hours of off time, he would have to do ~3.4 20 minute naps (so 3 naps a day with 4 naps every 3 days) a day to get 160 hours a week.Only getting an hour of sleep per day is nearly impossible because your body will begin to shut down and force you to sleep (passing out/death). Also, if any type of drug is used (such as adderall), extreme physical harm would be put on your body which could lead to serious problems over that long of time.I honestly find an 160 hour week impossible to pull off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemeos2 370 Posted December 22, 2012 When using mousekeys you can double click using those as well, easier than using left and right click. Exactly what I wrote on my description... "So, you basically just have to hide your chat and use your mousekeys to right/left click (nearly at same time)."5 or + makes you right click and left click. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
La Lars 1 Posted December 22, 2012 I must have misread that, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donnie 99 Posted December 22, 2012 For a 160h week plus a 6h autolog at start, Skiller 703's method would be: Play 3 days 11 hours straight. Sleep 8 hours. Play 3 days 11 hours straight. My method would be sleep 1 hour per day for the 6 evenings and save 2 1-hour periods as backup for emergencies, since I'll probably need them at some point near the end. We both have made plans for how to achieve this so far unattained RS nolifing achievement. Neither of us have definite plans on actually doing it just yet though. If you're confused about the hours I specified, at this level we measure it by keeping track of hours slept and subtracting from 168, even if you end up doing 174 due to the 6h autolog. This is the convention used for pretty much any week over 140h since it is hard to get an accurate comparison between players from Xp rates alone and you're at such a small distance that tracking hours is more reliable. 1% in either direction for an Xp rate can have a huge difference in estimated hours and where people would rank. Anyone who does this should post what city they live in so we can visit their funerals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fallstar 614 Posted December 22, 2012 Although it's not a healthy thing to do, you wouldn't die from it unless you already had poor health. People have gone for far longer than 168 hours without sleep before. So 168 hours with an 8 hour sleep in the middle is perfectly possible, it's just not very probable you'd succeed. Asmodean <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ick12 35 Posted December 22, 2012 Congrats Chilly on 200m wcing. :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpulus 5 Posted December 22, 2012 Jebrim, it may not be worthwhile to try to be the first to 99 in the new skill. There will most likely be people buying max spins so nobody will know who the first legit 99 is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 22, 2012 They always disable the use of lamps on the skill when they start a new skill. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emaxganis 45 Posted December 22, 2012 They always disable the use of lamps on the skill when they start a new skill.how many skills have been released since SoF is around? How can you tell for sure they will lose this opportunity to sell A LOT of spins 3 Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazycdcm 180 Posted December 22, 2012 They always disable the use of lamps on the skill when they start a new skill.You're referring to a different 'they'. We will see.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 22, 2012 ^Maybe Dark Lust or JebrimDark Lust doesn't nolife and in fact doesn't even really play RS anymore. She just bankstands now. And ya, I do plan on being first, even if I have to pull a 160h week. Considering that's never been done before, I'm not too worried about the competition. 160h week would be insane tbh. As for agility I gave up on day 4 I think when i was released. If you adopted a polyphasic sleep cycle you could pull a 141 hour week without any repercussions, but I don't think an hour a day would be safe I've done 140h+ weeks several times. You don't need to use polyphasic sleep to do it. And tbh I don't know of a single individual with a 140h+ week record that even used Uberman or similar. You can say all you want about it and obsess over blogs you read, but ultimately until it's done on RS and backed up with a Runetracker record, it's only going to be theory on a piece of paper. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muggiwhplar 2221 Posted December 22, 2012 My point is that your method's unhealthy lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W aldo 28 Posted December 22, 2012 Wow big gratz to Chilly on 200M woodcutting!I wonder whats next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 23, 2012 My point is that your method's unhealthy lol140 hours done however you want doesn't majorly damage your health. 160 certainly has that opportunity though. 1 Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazycdcm 180 Posted December 23, 2012 inb4 new skill is ungrindable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebrim 224 Posted December 23, 2012 It'll be an old-school gathering skill. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasignhagj 202 Posted December 23, 2012 Would inviting a friend over and tag-teaming a new skill be against the rules? It'd be impossible to catch as long as you be reasonable and don't play for an entire week straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muggiwhplar 2221 Posted December 23, 2012 Yes but these days they'd never know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites