Suicide

[Iamdan]

People with depression generally don't kill themselves, they might think about it constantly but most often they won't do it. This is because they have no energy, they don't care about anything at all - including their want for death. When they get prescribed the wrong medication and have a reaction with a burst of adrenaline, that's when they do it. This medication has an effect on the chemicals in their brain.

 

I know this from experience, but it's also what I've been told by professionals.

 

When my panic disorder was bad, I was much more likely to kill myself because of my brain chemicals and a bad connection between the neurons.

 

I was perfectly fine at times, while I had almost constant anxiety worrying about the next attack I still wanted to live. Then when the attacks hit I was flooded with hallucinations, depersonalization, paralyzing fear to the point where I couldn't speak properly, the feeling of going insane, the feeling of impending doom. At times I was fully convinced I was about to die, even though my logical side knew I wouldn't. That, combined with the thoughts of having panic attacks and anxiety for the rest of my life made it hard to keep out suicide thoughts and I knew it was only a matter of time unless I figured out how to improve it. The only reason why I hung on was because I beat my depression and I had hope that I could do the same with the panic attacks.

 

Anyone who thought they were about to have a horrible death would have trouble keeping out thoughts of ending it quickly.

 

That's what having suicidal thoughts feels like. The feeling of life not being worth living, and having no control. Paralyzing fear, and thoughts of spending a life in an institution. Knowing that it will effect your life in a horribly negative way, and having little or no hope for being happy. This combined with a burst of adrenaline is what does it.

 

Those who say suicide is cowardly, or that it's a matter of simply sucking it up have absolutely no clue what they're talking about. No clue. It's so much more than being sad all the time with no hope for the future.

 

Also, we have a hardwired instinct to survive. It's pretty damn difficult to fight against your own hard wiring. Cowardly my ass.

 

Ever notice how we never blame brain chemicals for rapes and homicides? That's because we can blame the perpetrator without also blaming the victim. It's a convenient little ploy to prevent feelings from getting hurt.

 

Sometimes we do blame mental problems for rape and murder.

[Star_Fox]

Suicide should be prevented at all cost.

Why?

Do we have a right to death?

 

Human nature, the core instinct of humans is to survive. Keep on keeping on. Continue to live.

 

 

No it is not. We as individuals are chose to dictate our life and its decisions. If some of us feel

the need to die then we are free to do so. Ever read those articles explaining how life

is not fair? Exactly.

 

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[Romy]

Something that always intrigued me, is that (other) animals will always try to keep their head above the water line. They just will, even when there's no hope.

Us humans just are not the same. I guess it requires a certain level of intelligence to go about and kill yourself.

 

I also find it amazing that so many people fight suicide with phrases like "The right to live", when it's [bleep]ing illegal in many countries.

 

 

 

 

Looking back, I know I was suicidal once. I didn't realize that back then, but I just was. Today I love living and love my life, that's just incrdible, unbelievable... :unsure:

[Sam]

I think the punishment for suicide should be the death penalty.

[Romy]

I concur.

[Dax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXf0yIRcdnI

[HAR]

If a person wants to take their own life, its not our choice, its theirs.

 

One thing I despise is when someone commits suicide and affects another innocent bystander, for example jumping off a motorway bridge onto a car killing them self and the innocent occupant of the car who then could have his/her family destroyed. If they want to die, do it in their own house so they don't interrupt the lives of people who actually want to live their lives.

[polyvoree]

I'm sure if someone who is commuting suicide because their family's died or has any physical problems, isn't selfish or cowardly. It's logical, they're depressed every day and the only way they can get rid of it is by killing themselves. (Sorry to put it harshly)

[Iamdan]

Something that always intrigued me, is that (other) animals will always try to keep their head above the water line. They just will, even when there's no hope.

Us humans just are not the same. I guess it requires a certain level of intelligence to go about and kill yourself.

 

People do the same thing. The suicide only happens when the brain isn't working like it should.

[Zygimantas]

Something that always intrigued me, is that (other) animals will always try to keep their head above the water line. They just will, even when there's no hope.

Us humans just are not the same. I guess it requires a certain level of intelligence to go about and kill yourself.

 

People do the same thing. The suicide only happens when the brain isn't working like it should.

Its not that the brain isn't working like it should. Its that our brains are just too complex, in that we need to have some meaning and fun in our lives. A cat who is fed well, has a good home, owner, and gets to play a bit, will be content for life. But we always want more, no matter how much we have. So when something goes wrong, or boredom and depression take over, then it can cause some people to seriously consider and attempt suicide. We don't just want to survive anymore, as this has become easy and boring for most of us in third-world countries ( and yet others still struggle), but we also want to keep moving forward and achieve things and enjoy life. Not having or losing these needs can cause suicide. Why live if you don't enjoy it?

[Saru Inc]

Something that always intrigued me, is that (other) animals will always try to keep their head above the water line. They just will, even when there's no hope.

Us humans just are not the same. I guess it requires a certain level of intelligence to go about and kill yourself.

 

People do the same thing. The suicide only happens when the brain isn't working like it should.

Its not that the brain isn't working like it should. Its that our brains are just too complex, in that we need to have some meaning and fun in our lives. A cat who is fed well, has a good home, owner, and gets to play a bit, will be content for life. But we always want more, no matter how much we have. So when something goes wrong, or boredom and depression take over, then it can cause some people to seriously consider and attempt suicide. We don't just want to survive anymore, as this has become easy and boring for most of us in third-world countries ( and yet others still struggle), but we also want to keep moving forward and achieve things and enjoy life. Not having or losing these needs can cause suicide. Why live if you don't enjoy it?

 

 

Sorry, try again.

 

 

The brain is run on chemicals. Some of the deepest depressions out there simply happen due to a problem with the serotonin receptors. Thats where SSRI's come in. If there is too much or too little of serotonin, or MANY MANY other chemicals, the person can become destroyed. The brain is very very complex, and too many things can, and unfortunately do, go wrong. This is why electroshock therapy is so good, not because we live in a consumerist ungrateful society, but is because we are after all, only human. And sometimes our brains don't function properly.

[Pirate_Felix]

I think people who fail in committing suicide fail in life.

[ember3579]

Saru, not all cases of suicide or attempted suicide are due to chemical imbalances in the brain. A sizable chunk, definitely, but far from even a slight majority. People who think that anything (even oblivion) would be better than the living Hell-hole that is their life are very liable to think about doing it. Anything that puts extreme stress on someone for longer than a few days (ESPECIALLY if there's no end in sight from their perspective) could potentially cause this sort of reaction. Just popping pills and strapping people to beds isn't going to help. Perhaps finding the social reason for this would do the trick?

[polyvoree]

Saru, not all cases of suicide or attempted suicide are due to chemical imbalances in the brain. A sizable chunk, definitely, but far from even a slight majority. People who think that anything (even oblivion) would be better than the living Hell-hole that is their life are very liable to think about doing it. Anything that puts extreme stress on someone for longer than a few days (ESPECIALLY if there's no end in sight from their perspective) could potentially cause this sort of reaction. Just popping pills and strapping people to beds isn't going to help. Perhaps finding the social reason for this would do the trick?

That sounds like something my chemistry teacher would say..

[Dark_Yeng]

I personally don't have a problem with it. If somebody wants to kill themself, I say let 'em.

 

 

Try saying that if it was your own child. Pwned.

[Abc1230]

I personally don't have a problem with it. If somebody wants to kill themself, I say let 'em.

 

 

Try saying that if it was your own child. Pwned.

 

I wouldn't force my child to live if they didn't want to. That's just cruel. "Pwned."

[Racheya]

I personally don't have a problem with it. If somebody wants to kill themself, I say let 'em.

 

 

Try saying that if it was your own child. Pwned.

 

I wouldn't force my child to live if they didn't want to. That's just cruel. "Pwned."

Of course you would. Life is what it is, it's limited which means you have to do as much and life as long and full of a life that you can.

 

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

[Iamdan]

Saru, not all cases of suicide or attempted suicide are due to chemical imbalances in the brain. A sizable chunk, definitely, but far from even a slight majority. People who think that anything (even oblivion) would be better than the living Hell-hole that is their life are very liable to think about doing it. Anything that puts extreme stress on someone for longer than a few days (ESPECIALLY if there's no end in sight from their perspective) could potentially cause this sort of reaction. Just popping pills and strapping people to beds isn't going to help. Perhaps finding the social reason for this would do the trick?

Did you actually just make that stuff up on the spot?

 

The majority of suicides (90-98%) are caused by mental disorders. Mental disorders obviously being when the brain isn't working as it should.

 

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

 

I'd bet anything that there is a situation where you would rather die than not upset family.

[Giordano]

Or you know, they don't have anybody?

[Zygimantas]

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

 

That only makes sense if you believe in an afterlife. I don't, and therefore i believe that when you die you are basically well, dead, and you go brain dead. So it does not matter if you cause pain for everyone around you because you will not be there to experience it anyway. Existence is only relative to ourselves. If we do not exist then nothing exists.

[Racheya]

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

 

That only makes sense if you believe in an afterlife. I don't, and therefore i believe that when you die you are basically well, dead, and you go brain dead. So it does not matter if you cause pain for everyone around you because you will not be there to experience it anyway. Existence is only relative to ourselves. If we do not exist then nothing exists.

It's got nothing to do with the afterlife and everything to do with not being so selfish. I KNOW that when I'm dead, I'm dead. But their pain won't just disappear when I'm dead, it'll still be heartbreaking for them. They exist, even if I don't.

[Giordano]

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

 

That only makes sense if you believe in an afterlife. I don't, and therefore i believe that when you die you are basically well, dead, and you go brain dead. So it does not matter if you cause pain for everyone around you because you will not be there to experience it anyway. Existence is only relative to ourselves. If we do not exist then nothing exists.

If you don't exist, everybody else still exists. You're not the center of the world, quit being so selfish. What you'll be losing is your responsibility, sure since you'll be gone, but the consequences of your actions still endure...you might not even be remembered because of the damage you could cause.

[Zygimantas]

Wanting to die, while understandable, is stupid. Imagine how many people would be upset, angry, destroyed by your death if you were to kill yourself. Are there really no other options that you have to do that? Really?

 

That only makes sense if you believe in an afterlife. I don't, and therefore i believe that when you die you are basically well, dead, and you go brain dead. So it does not matter if you cause pain for everyone around you because you will not be there to experience it anyway. Existence is only relative to ourselves. If we do not exist then nothing exists.

It's got nothing to do with the afterlife and everything to do with not being so selfish. I KNOW that when I'm dead, I'm dead. But their pain won't just disappear when I'm dead, it'll still be heartbreaking for them. They exist, even if I don't.

You don't understand. Even if their pain is there, since you are dead you would never know or feel it. So for you it will be the same as if it wasn't there at all.

[K4ylan]

no. just because it would really [bleep] up the lives of the people around you for a long time. why die like that, when the last thing you'll be remembered for is being a burden

[Zygimantas]

Am I the only one who understands the concept that once you die you lose all emotion, memories, thoughts, etc.? In which case once you are dead its like you were never even born. Yes, others will have known you were alive and will be hurt by your suicide but it really doesn't matter because for YOU its like existence never even occurred at all, and once your dead you will never have any thoughts or emotions towards your suicide causing others pain.