Johannas Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The justice system here in the UK is so messed up. There is nothing that can be done to stop this guy getting back infront a computer, the police have more important things to do than deal with this. Notice how people that stab other people with knives get just 6 years in jail? Well to rub salt in an already salty wound they are usually out within 6 monthes. It's good that they're trying to crack down though... Thank you to tripsis for an awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I am glad that Jagex is doing they're part for things like this to make it safer for players and making hackers pay for they're crimes. Let us hope that they continue catching hackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousPSC Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 good for jagex "I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos-especially activity that seems to have no meaning"- Jim Morrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jard_Y_Dooku Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 There's more to this story; people don't get arrested simply for stealing RuneScape game accounts. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Mace Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Good job there. That's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 There's more to this story; people don't get arrested simply for stealing RuneScape game accounts.My guess is that one of his keyloggers found its way to the "wrong persons" computer and its them that reported it as malicious computer access or something. The Runescape element, while small, helped the police follow the "paper trail" and find out who it was. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 There's more to this story; people don't get arrested simply for stealing RuneScape game accounts.My guess is that one of his keyloggers found its way to the "wrong persons" computer and its them that reported it as malicious computer access or something. The Runescape element, while small, helped the police follow the "paper trail" and find out who it was. Key word: "Stealing". People do get arrested for stealing. And theft of virtual items is looked at almost the same way. There's been more than 1 thread on these forums with people being charged for the theft of virtual items. One being two kids who made another guy, in real life, give them his green halloween mask.The offenders have both been sentenced to community service -- 200 hours for the 15-year-old, and 160 hours for the 14-year-old. (Source: http://www.massively.com/2008/10/21/dutch-court-convicts-2-minors-of-stealing-virtual-items/ ) And in relation to Phishing being illegal: Congress and Phishing are on colision course - Phishing is a crime that can happen to anyone. Essentially it is identity theft. Someone steals your credit card and your name in order to steal your money and potentially ruin your credit. Unfortunately, this crime is becoming so popular on the internet that congress is being forced to enact federal laws about the criminality of phishing. And in the same article If someone is convicted under the law passed by congress for phishing they could risk spending up to five years in prison. The people convicted of phishing may also have to pay a $250,000 fine. (Source: http://www.anti-phishing.info/congress-and-phishing.htm ) I'm sure, in most places around the world - those above figures vary, however, still very much illegal. Says that it's hard to find those phishing, yes. But when they are found.... :twisted: RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooK-A-Ji Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 There's more to this story; people don't get arrested simply for stealing RuneScape game accounts.My guess is that one of his keyloggers found its way to the "wrong persons" computer and its them that reported it as malicious computer access or something. The Runescape element, while small, helped the police follow the "paper trail" and find out who it was. yes, either that, or he also wiped someones IRL bank as well, since he most likely had access to that as well by help of a simple keylog.so maybe the kid downloaded something stupid, and he ended up losing his RS bank, while in the meantime his daddy ended up losing REAL money hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdboyxxx Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Go Jagex, kick some nerd butt! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chc05dude Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 First thing that came to my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 The justice system here in the UK is so messed up. There is nothing that can be done to stop this guy getting back infront a computer, the police have more important things to do than deal with this. Notice how people that stab other people with knives get just 6 years in jail? Well to rub salt in an already salty wound they are usually out within 6 monthes. It's good that they're trying to crack down though... What, more important than stealing? They may as well not bother with people stealing cars or shoplifting, because after all, they have more important things to deal with. This has been a long time coming, and if they get a conviction it will really help with the effort of taking down virtual goods theives. I would have thought this guy would be behind a few proxies, and it doesn't seem to have helped. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chc05dude Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 No one should be in jail for hacking a videogame account. If he used a stolen credit card to pay for the account thats a different story entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 No one should be in jail for hacking a videogame account. If he used a stolen credit card to pay for the account thats a different story entirely. "No-one should be in jail for setting up a system to steal items, albeit virtual." As an above poster said, and to conintue on from that, no-one should be in jail so, according to you, for stealing a car, bike, TV..anything! Training a RuneScape account requires many many hours, you've earned what you get on this game. Some [wagon] coming along, fooling you by creating an illegal site which resembles the real one and taking your stuff? That's stealing. RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And to my mind, I can really image a Jagex Mod in life, holding a giant Ban-Hammer whilst standing at the door of the perpetrator. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 This is a great step I think, both for Jagex and for the Internet-crime scene. I've always felt that internet crimes are seen as being lesser to that of crimes encountered in the world, which of-course shouldn't be the case - although the 'virtual' nature of it creates somewhat of a barrier between the real-world and the 'internet', these accounts and virtual-possessions are still that - possessions. They should really be treated as such in my opinion. The loss of them does result in loss of time, money in some cases and even emotional disturbance! The law's there for a reason and certainly a lot of the younger-generation growing up believe that they can get away with hacking and online theft. (I had that same opinion up till only a few years ago! ;)) This kind of publicity should make people realise that they do have punishments to face if they pursue the wrong line of things and should hopefully scare off at least some people! And to my mind, I can really image a Jagex Mod in life, holding a giant Ban-Hammer whilst standing at the door of the perpetrator.Lol! :^_^: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chc05dude Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Legally you don't own your Runescape account, you pay monthly for the privilege to use it. Jagex could delete your account because they sat their turkey sandwich on the big red button, and there is nothing you could do because they have the legal right to delete it for any reason. Thats the difference between a videogame account and a bike. I'm pretty sure if you stole a bike in the US you'd get probation. Getting jailtime for this doesn't match the crime. Training a RuneScape account requires many many hours, you've earned what you get on this game. Wrongo. Anything earned in this game is worth exactly $0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Legally you don't own your Runescape account, you pay monthly for the privilege to use it. Jagex could delete your account because they sat their turkey sandwich on the big red button, and there is nothing you could do because they have the legal right to delete it for any reason. Thats the difference between a videogame account and a bike. I'm pretty sure if you stole a bike in the US you'd get probation. Getting jailtime for this doesn't match the crime. Doesn't that simply relate that it's stealing the property of Jagex rather than the property of the player? If so - surely the same applies, it's still the theft of a possession, albeit a virtual one. I'm not clued up on the law and I certainly don't know what would warrant jail-time or simply a probation; It would seem harsh to get jail-time for the theft of virtual goods, especially if it's a first offence - but I don't think we're told anything about why the decision was jail-time? It could well be that there were other factors behind the decision as others have said in this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Legally you don't own your Runescape account, you pay monthly for the privilege to use it. Jagex could delete your account because they sat their turkey sandwich on the big red button, and there is nothing you could do because they have the legal right to delete it for any reason. Thats the difference between a videogame account and a bike. I'm pretty sure if you stole a bike in the US you'd get probation. Getting jailtime for this doesn't match the crime. Training a RuneScape account requires many many hours, you've earned what you get on this game. Wrongo. Anything earned in this game is worth exactly $0.00 That's why Jagex is making the effort to bring the hacker to justice, not the account creator. Accounts are worth money to Jagex, because it's how the company runs its games. It's like me lending a bike out to a friend for free, and then someone else takes the bike without my permission. Although the friend hasn't bought the bike or added value to it, it's still worth money to me and has therefore been stolen. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdboyxxx Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 funnily enough, I read this in the Telegraph about a week ago I think it was (don't press me for dates, I never remember them). My mum showed it to me and we had a bit of a laugh about it. I'm not sure why though :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dheginsea Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 wow Jagex actually did something about the hacking problem, NICE! =D> I once met a man named Jesus at a Home Depot. Is this the Messiah returned at last? And i once beat someone named Jesus in a chess game. Does that mean I'm smarter than the messiah?BOW TO THE NEW MESSIAH Maybe a president who didn't believe our soldiers were going to heaven, might be a little less willing to get them killed. ~ Bill MaherBarrows drops: 2 Karil's Coifs (on double drop day) 92,150th person to 99 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 There's a first for everything... About time Jagex. Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 There's a first for everythingindeed, first time a thread's been necrod NOT by you How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 There's a first for everythingindeed, first time a thread's been necrod NOT by youlol irl Oh you. :shades: Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 There was no reason to bump this thread back up as it is over 2 years old. Locking this. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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