The lack of junior clans.

[Gamerr]

Junior clans like Phobia, 'The' Futures, ... have been closed quite a long time ago. I wonder why, I never understood why junior clans aren't popular anymore, since I personally was in 1 and I can assure you it's a great way to train up to join a big clan. I also think that if you're in a junior clan you can have a lot of training & clan experience before actually joining a senior clan, so it would be a good way to get more quality members, if done correctly. I think that the junior clan world is an important factor to get the senior world back on their feet, because it could make some smaller clans stronger by hosting joint trips. I also think that there is an underestimated group of people around combat 80-90 who want to join a clan but can't, because they are too low and or quit or don't train up anymore and join a skill clan for example.

 

So I have a few thoughts, pick the ones out you want to discuss or state why you're for/against them:

 

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

[Pan_Nx]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

For nexus, as a community clan, no. Because the reqs aren't high. But for warring type clans like you are talking about, no. I would just make a FA system.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

Not really. I think FA systems work better. Also, training is much easier than it was back when junior clans were popular. It doesn't take long to get 115+ anymore.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

They could. But it's hard to run two clans.

[Nobody]

They used to be fairly common but as training has become easier and easier clans find it simpler to just expect people to train to meet their reqs. Of course there are a few junior clans left but most are gone for that reason or the leadership decided it was too much effort and not enough gain.

[Uffan5]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

Only if the other staff members would be committed in helping the junior clan actually work and make it be productive instead of a waste of effort.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

Not in the near future because currently clan leaders have no interest in developing people not as familiar with the clan world and the lower levels who want to join bigger clans.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

Yes, they would be much more equipped to do well during wars and would have a lot of experience.

[Jack]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

No way, where would I get the recruits from? I'm not making a whole new clan for 10 people, I'd rather have lower Future Applicant requirements.

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

A few junior clans can have a future in RS, but overall I think the clan world has shrunk to the extinct that junior clans are non-existant, if Jagex made the clan world more well known, then easily junior clans could come back, but only to specialist clans (country clans, etc).

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

Perhaps, but you gain experience from warring top clans, I learnt that whilst warring in Clan Europe against your RDC's (RIP), EH's , TT's, so I believe that it's just easier to have lots of/some future applicants rather than a whole new clan. So yes they could, but in my opinion there's better ways of improving future members qualities.

[Danny_TeamDan]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

Too much work, basically making a new clan with lower lvls, less experience and less people to war most likely.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

If the clan world takes a seriously heavy hit, or gets an abudance of intrest in the RS community wanting to war then It'd make sense to train people before they join, then again that's why we have FA systems.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

Yes, but FA system still works and can improve quality a lot better. Like in jr clan you'd be warring same experience as you, when you move up you're warring harder people and may get frustrated/not used to it.

[generaldesor]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan): Only if my senior clan is already steady

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?I dont know, thing is , with w141 and things like that I dont think low lvled people are that interested in junior clans, and theres other range where everyones kinda high already, there will be a point , I think, in wich these better come back atleast at some rate or the new blood thats gonna enter the clanworld its gonna be very rare or its gonna be clans like DV.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan? Sure, the lvl 75 would know what hes doing when he enters the senior clan,meanwhile if your clan just has an FA system the lvl 75 would train his cmb but wouldnt have any idea.

[The Observer]

I don't think junior clans are needed anymore because number 1, the clan world is smaller and splitting up a clan's power isn't a smart idea. Considering that clans now have just 100-200 members (excluding VR), splitting that up isn't good. If you want to train members to get into the "senior" clan, then just create an FA system. This way your future members are already in the clan and are more inspired to become full members of that clan since more restrictions can be placed such as how long they can be within the FA process.

[Tizi]

black knight intiates only ones i know =o

 

 

 

i look at DK as Vr junior, cause when dk ppl get good, they join vr.

[Mister_T]

RT opened one, Reinvented army !

[Adr1an]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

 

Yes we are doing so actually now. Well more like re-opening with a twist.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

 

This is a decision that can not be made by simply one clan doing it. We have actually talked with a couple clans about Juniors clans recently and they have stated that if TF reopened they might attempt to reopen their junior programs as well. The decision of re-opening of junior clans I believe in the long run could help expand the clan world. I however do not think the clan world is small. I think it is just changing from what people are used to so people flip out and say its dieing. The old clan world is slowly moving out of the way for a new age and if you do not change (while still keeping your core principles) you will slowly dwindle.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

 

Junior clans are what the senior clan make it. TF would be a little different from what people were used to in the past but its #1 goal would remain the same: Training people and introducing lower levels into what a higher level clan.

[bear1108]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

Well, We (InterQueo) have already had a junior section with a seperate ml and with seperate wars too. The cb level is from 80 to 103.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

I'm not sure about it.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

I believe yes because thats why we wanted to make this all. They can get get used to the atmosphere and feel they belong to somewhere and they will stay here too.

[mrmyk]

I'm not a fan of Junior Clans, really. Combat levels are extremely easy to gain, so simply let someone introduce themselves to the clan and train up. We had one person who introduced himself at 39 combat and reached 107 (our requirement) within 1 month.

[ViruZaZ]

Junior clans will be back. Trust me.

[Danny_TeamDan]

I'm not a fan of Junior Clans, really. Combat levels are extremely easy to gain, so simply let someone introduce themselves to the clan and train up. We had one person who introduced himself at 39 combat and reached 107 (our requirement) within 1 month.

That's epic. True dedication xD

[Billy Key]

black knight intiates only ones i know =o

 

 

 

i look at DK as Vr junior, cause when dk ppl get good, they join vr.

 

LFJ are the only junior clan I know about (they made a new one after Juniors seperated I believe

 

BKI aren't a junior clan, they originally were but removed themselves from the TWR because they became a FA program and while they continued to get fights for a bit they are now simply an FA program. I would love to have another Junior clan open, I still miss the BK Cadets and I dislike what happened with them and what is now the BK Initiates but what's done is done. I would certainly like to have one but it wont happen in BK I don't think, there is very little support for one elsewhere in the clan.

 

I don't think so, people have so many ways of gaining levels very quickly that they either just level to a point where they can join a main clan or just aren't interested in being in a clan and don't join one at all. Less people and higher levels make junior clans less effective really and unless something radical happens the trend of junior clans getting weaker closing will probably continue.

 

I believe they do, they are very eeffective for what they do, BK was helped a lot by BKC when it was around and that is part of the reason i was so sad to see it go, the same practice and experience has yet to be replicated in BK as far as I'm concerned.

[kuru72]

If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

 

Um no. It's not that hard to get up combat levels anymore. I myself is pure f2p and I don't find it hard to level up cb. I can get 120 cb if I wanted but I'm too busy getting up range xD. In my opinion, future applicant systems are better now. It's less work and easier to use.

 

Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

 

I don't think so. Everyone likes FA systems now as it's so effiecient and easy to organize.

 

Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

 

I think this is what junior clans are for. Although, until a person experience a very hard battle full of high levels and experienced people, he/she won't know.

[andyk47]

jr clans used to work cause it would be pk trips, so every1 could go on a pk trip no1 was cut ect.... now with warring > pking (because jagex killed it) alot of wars are matched opts cause clan sizes are soo different, so many lower lvls dont want to sit and watch all the time, with all clans wanting to focus on the main clan the higher lvls and winning fights that count, they wont focus on lower levels.

 

also many lower lvls now dont want to join the warring scene, yeah you get some that will war and bind and range but many dont get it, they dont like it and the pkin/warring generation is gettin old now, with fewer members joining as old retire, more clans will prolly die and eventually(5 years time) there will be a select few clans, then loads of different teams

[HAR]

- If you're in a clan, as a staff member - would you consider making a junior clan? (note: a junior clan are members of around level 75-100 who can train up for a senior clan)

Funnily enough, I just disbanded our Junior section. It wasn't a clan, but simply a lowered combat required rank to allow more to come in. Reason was that in the wars we fight in against top clans, they are pulling 120+ units without fail, mostly even 123/4+ where as we had sometimes half our people under 120 combat and about 3 or 4 under 110. As a result in less style wars (Melee+binds+ranged / Melee+binds) where levels mean a lot more than in all styles, we were losing them A LOT. Lower levels are a huge disadvantage for us which is why, instead of keeping them open, we closed them.

 

So I guess it really depends on the size and ambition of the clan. If your fairly big and your fighting big opponents you will not want to be held back by lower levels. Oppositely, if your a small clan and you would like more new members regardless of level (to train them up in combat and warring skill) then a Junior section would be ideal.

 

- Do you think junior clans will come back, or have a future in RS?

In smaller clans, yes, in larger clans no. Lower levels are a huge disadvantage and big clans get enough applicants to sustain themselves. Its smaller clans that are usually more "desperate" for members. On the other hand though, its usually bigger clans that can put the resources into running a Junior clan. I doubt we will see a comeback to the extent that they were before.

 

- Could junior clans improve the quality of the members eventually joining the senior clan?

You can be any level and an experienced warrer. Levels are levels, easily trained. You can have a 126 and a 105 who have no clue at warring but the 126 will probably be better off with the levels. So Junior clans only train up the lower leveled members in combat and waring skill. Clan experience...less high levels will have to be trained by the Senior section.