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The following are my thoughts and hopes of Runescape's past and future. Yes, the title is "RIP OLD SCHOOL" and yes I am a veteran player sharing memories and complaints about Runescape. Yes this has been done a million times. Yes it is bothering the new players because they know it cannot be changed and Jagex does not care. The difference between this and any other rant on any Runescape forum is that I can truly say that I have considered all aspects of this dispute. I have spent hours upon hours hearing and reading different opinions of different Runescape players. I do not wish to change anyone who does not agree with me. The point of this thread is not only to reminisce, but to hopefully make a difference.

 

I first started playing Runescape in mid 2004, and that may not even be as far back as some of you. I saw two of my friends at school in third grade playing Runescape on the school computers. They hadn't even blocked it yet. I went home and found the game easily, and logged in as polo2340. Well, I don't remember what this felt like, it was six or seven years ago. But the memories that followed were impossible to explain. At the time, the overall feel to the game was just amazing. I can't quite explain it, but the terrible graphics didn't even matter because the gameplay made up for it. Yes there are still games today that are based more on gameplay than graphics, but to this day I haven't found one as great.

 

The first year of Runescape was interesting, not having a clue what was going on. I heard rumors about the wilderness, a dangerous place where other players could kill me. I saw some trees and thought I was going to be killed. I was still on tutorial island. I remember meeting some guy named weesnaw01, im not entirely sure about the numbers. Then before I had time to even realize, Santa was in Runescape. I got a yo-yo! It was great, I am so glad that I still have it. My other cool holiday items i still have are a rubber chicken, and a chicken suit.

 

The next best thing after my first memories would be meeting old friends. If only I could talk to them again. I honestly have no clue when I met them, just remember them well. Firefreek0 was my friend for years. Rustdusty343 was some guy who completed the knight's sword and could make me full steel! I thought he was god. Later a dude named runemaste999 or something like that always hung out with me. There were many others. And If any of you ever somehow happen to read this, contact me!!! I often log into Twin range10 but my old account polo2340 is still accessible.

 

I could go on and on about all these memories, but I hope those who are reading this could too. I want true veterans to read this. Those who experienced Runescape at it's best. Sometimes I even wonder if I should consider it the same game at all. Runescape was orignally a unique game, where you could chop a tree with an axe, use a tinderbox to make a fire, and cook some nice fish. You could mine to make bars and eventually armor or weapons, witch is now obsolete. Because things weren't bought just to raise a single skill, most of the time you'd have to link them together. For example to train smithing, you'd need to mine the ores yourself. Now skills are just a way of saying , "look, I've spent this much time being a zombie and ignoring the fun of the game!". Now that Jagex obviously noticed this, they make new updates leading into more "experience buying".

 

I don't know what else to say about memories, but I'm sure you've heard enough. Sorry about the length. Now listen, any true veteran players who have experienced what I have, WE MUST DO SOMETHING. I know this sounds ridiculous and pathetic, but who knows. If you support this thread, make others aware. I don't have the answers, I just know we can do something. Tell your friends about this thread, gather all the veterans you can find, and we together shall make a difference. Other players cannot be changed. I am convinced that the only option left is to have all of us, leave no one behind, open up Jagex's minds. We could leave a forum with all who support. No, we will get more players than we can fit on the list. However we do it, ANDREW GOWER, THE GENIUS WHO CREATED THIS GAME, MUST BE AWAKEN. HE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE MASS AMOUNTS OF PLAYERS WHO WILL JOIN THE GOOD OLD RUNESCAPE ONCE AGAIN WILL BE LARGER THAN THE SWARM OF DISRESPECTFUL, IGNORANT, INSIGNIFICANT 2010ers.

don't you dare read this thread and forget about it. it's up to you to bring runescape back, I did all I can typing this thing.

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Hey polo, great to see such a well thought out first post. This does fit more with rants, however.

I have to agree that the game is not what it used to be. The issue is, that's a problem with players like us - not the game. The game is just not the same game it used to be. Jagex will not change that. I started in 2002 and played because I loved merchanting (as well as many other aspects of the game). When they nerfed trading, they nerfed the game for me. But I was already on my way out at that time. The other factor you have to remember for players like us who have been around for so long is that we've grown up a lot over those years. Over time you just grow out of things. There's nothing wrong with the game - it's just a different game. And to an extent, we're different people. You pretty much just have to accept this and move on in your life.

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I wouldn't exactly call 2004 OLD SCHOOL but it has been quite a few years. I guess we're to blame in honesty, Players got greedy, lazy and desperate for money, they'd spend IRL Cash to get it, Credit Card scams, RS Scams. Funny enough this reminds me of an Anime based on these logic's...

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I'm confused as to what you are trying to make a difference about. Do you want things to go back to 2004? If you are a seasoned veteran as you say you are, you should know that nothing in RuneScape majorly changes just because a lot of people want it to. I also remember the times of running from Varrock mines, to Lumbridge furnace, and back on up to Varrock anvils; those were great times. But these times are even better, in my opinion. And if you want to be as self-sufficient as the old skool days, you can go get 99 smithing with your self-mined ores to make your first set of full rune.

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The following are my thoughts and hopes of Runescape's past and future. Yes, the title is "RIP OLD SCHOOL" and yes I am a veteran player sharing memories and complaints about Runescape. Yes this has been done a million times. Yes it is bothering the new players because they know it cannot be changed and Jagex does not care. The difference between this and any other rant on any Runescape forum is that I can truly say that I have considered all aspects of this dispute. I have spent hours upon hours hearing and reading different opinions of different Runescape players. I do not wish to change anyone who does not agree with me. The point of this thread is not only to reminisce, but to hopefully make a difference.

 

Fantastic introduction. It was complete word salad, but you almost had me going there. I can already tell this is going to be much more well thought out than the other rose-tinted glasses propaganda threads.

 

I first started playing Runescape in mid 2004, and that may not even be as far back as some of you. I saw two of my friends at school in third grade playing Runescape on the school computers. They hadn't even blocked it yet. I went home and found the game easily, and logged in as polo2340. Well, I don't remember what this felt like, it was six or seven years ago. But the memories that followed were impossible to explain. At the time, the overall feel to the game was just amazing. I can't quite explain it, but the terrible graphics didn't even matter because the gameplay made up for it. Yes there are still games today that are based more on gameplay than graphics, but to this day I haven't found one as great.

 

2004 is a good time, six years certainly enough to call yourself "a veteran (well it is in war, so it fits here)." Also: Graphics =/= Gameplay? Clearly a man after my own heart. emot-swoon.gif

 

I could go on and on about all these memories, but I hope those who are reading this could too. I want true veterans to read this. Those who experienced Runescape at it's best. Sometimes I even wonder if I should consider it the same game at all. Runescape was orignally a unique game, where you could chop a tree with an axe, use a tinderbox to make a fire, and cook some nice fish. You could mine to make bars and eventually armor or weapons, witch is now obsolete. Because things weren't bought just to raise a single skill, most of the time you'd have to link them together. For example to train smithing, you'd need to mine the ores yourself. Now skills are just a way of saying , "look, I've spent this much time being a zombie and ignoring the fun of the game!". Now that Jagex obviously noticed this, they make new updates leading into more "experience buying".

 

I had to skip past the nostalgia'y parts and go straight to the parts where your form free falls into a concrete sidewalk and immediately liquefies. You cannot dutifully compare Runescape now to how it was six years ago, just as you can't even compare World of Warcraft or any other MMO to how it was six years ago. MMOs are a constantly developing and changing, evolving landscape. To say Runescape was "originally a unique game," what are you implying that it isn't unique now? The fundamental structure of Runescape has not changed. You can still mine and make weapons and armor, I really don't see how that became obsolete, and you don't throw in any supporting details for it.

 

And you never needed to mine the ore yourself for smithing, you just had no idea at the time the right avenues to buy the ore in bulk (and by the right avenue, I mean the forums and world 2 Falador). Ignoring the fun of the game? So...buying ten thousand ore and then smithing it is a way of saying "I'm leveling like a zombie" but chalking on the time mining the ore makes it "the fun of the game." emot-suicide.gif

 

I don't know what else to say about memories, but I'm sure you've heard enough. Sorry about the length. Now listen, any true veteran players who have experienced what I have, WE MUST DO SOMETHING. I know this sounds ridiculous and pathetic, but who knows. If you support this thread, make others aware. I don't have the answers, I just know we can do something. Tell your friends about this thread, gather all the veterans you can find, and we together shall make a difference. Other players cannot be changed. I am convinced that the only option left is to have all of us, leave no one behind, open up Jagex's minds. We could leave a forum with all who support. No, we will get more players than we can fit on the list. However we do it, ANDREW GOWER, THE GENIUS WHO CREATED THIS GAME, MUST BE AWAKEN. HE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE MASS AMOUNTS OF PLAYERS WHO WILL JOIN THE GOOD OLD RUNESCAPE ONCE AGAIN WILL BE LARGER THAN THE SWARM OF DISRESPECTFUL, IGNORANT, INSIGNIFICANT 2010ers.

don't you dare read this thread and forget about it. it's up to you to bring runescape back, I did all I can typing this thing.

 

I wouldn't call it "pathetic," although ridiculous would definitely be on my list.

 

I don't support this thread because of my progressive ideology IRL, because I support giving the players what they want, even if it means sweeping changes, rather than limiting the game because of a small minority of players don't want to let go of the past. Despite the changes in graphics, Runescape still looks unique. Despite the changes in skill-gain speeds, 99's are still a long, tedious process to obtain.

 

A fundamental rule on MMOs is that they get easier the longer they are live, not harder. Some aspects get harder, but it's all about the community reacting and forwarding their feedback to balance what needs to be balanced. I know you're not old enough to remember this, but if Jagex didn't listen to these progressive ideas, we'd still be using fatigue, skilling by "use hatchet, click tree, chop once, repeat," sound effects that sound like Andrew breathing into his mic, we wouldn't have any of the new skills because we would still be on classic, and Runescape would still have just a couple thousand subscribers and a business that never got the public eye for ANYTHING.

 

Any decently supported MMO is very different than it was six years ago, and although you look on those times with rose tinted glasses, I guarantee you would leave if Jagex "went back to the good old days," because those bad memories you've suppressed would come back en-masse.

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I know what you feel like. I sometimes get the nostalgia-feeling of my early days in RuneScape too. It can't really be recreated since you'd get bored far too quickly if you created a new account and tried to do the same stuff again.

 

But face it, change is inevitable. MMOs are continuously changing, and they'll always become easier, and their community is going to become more immature as it expands. It's absurd to request Jagex to revert the game back to the old version.

 

And honestly, think about it - would you ENJOY the old-fashioned game if Jagex reverted back to it now? I can't answer for you, but I'd miss all the "modern" conveniences like the Grand Exchange, etc. And your expectation of pleasant feeling due to nostalgia would soon be overcome by impatience and frustration of being unable to do what you can do nowadays.

 

However, the crap about 2010ers and "veterans" is stereotypical [cabbage]. It's like saying anyone younger than you is less mature than you. There are plenty of nice people joining the game, and I'm sure the proportion of trolls and idiots back in 2004 wasn't that much lower than now.

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Trust me, nothing any of you had said was a surprise. I don't think that Jagex should just "go back to 2004". I just think some major changes could be made. And yes, all mmos do change over time. I'm aware of it, and I knew people would point it out. But when Andrew Gower wanted to create Runescape, he created it the way he wanted it to be. And how did he make it? He made it unique.

The reason I think the game has lost its luster is ultimately RWT. Jagex did what they thought was best, and maybe they were right. But at one point, which I know for certain, Jagex even said THEY were sad to remove the wilderness pking and add a trade limit. So I am not an idiot expecting to log in one day with the old graphics, all the updates are gone, and everyone is suddenly making armor and running around yelling nice phrases. But Jagex is a group of game developers paid to do so. If anyone could find a solution, it's them. Other games have overcame similar cases of RWT. I don't remember specifically what they were but I remember it's happened.

 

As far as the game being changed by the players, like I said before it changed faster because of the removal of the wilderness. I think Jagex needs to give a push by making some major changes to the game, and the players will react in positive ways.

 

And yes I do agree there were trolls back then too. Now the problem in my opinion isn't even people being rude or flaming. They just care about feeding into their addiction of grinding while nobody gets in their way, rather than just logging in to meet a couple of friends and have a good time.

 

So mainly what I wanted to say is this. Of course Runescape is still a good game with high potential. No, it can not be reversed. Just a few vital changes could be made. And thank you all for reading.

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I'm not really that "old school", if I am at all. I started around 2006. I remember my feeling of wonder when I realized that I could cook myself a pie! Everything was new and I looked with unbiased eyes on the entire, poorly-graphicked(sp?) world. I still use the old graphics, partially because my computer can't handle HD and partly because I like the gameplay, not the graphics.

 

The thing is, that while we might long for free trade and wildy pking, we also seem to gloss over the huge problems Runescape had back then. Nowadays, our main problems are, well, I don't know exactly, but back then rwting was taking control of the entire games, and so on.

 

I, too, want the old game back. My friend, Kapa138, who is a rather high-level, helped me so much when I was a lower level. She still does, in fact. But back then, when I was wondering how to get full mithril, who appears but her with a set for me? She always helps me, and although the quadrupled trade limit is nice, it doesn't match up. Still, I try to be happy with whatever I have.

 

So, in short, while I support this, I don't think it'll ever happen.

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Trust me, nothing any of you had said was a surprise. I don't think that Jagex should just "go back to 2004". I just think some major changes could be made. And yes, all mmos do change over time. I'm aware of it, and I knew people would point it out. But when Andrew Gower wanted to create Runescape, he created it the way he wanted it to be. And how did he make it? He made it unique.

 

Runescape is still one of the most unique MMOs I have ever seen. What other MMO allows you to know and train all available skills to max? Only a couple I can think of. How about quests where your actions have a visible, lasting effect on the world? Not many, Lord of the Rings Online is the only one that comes to mind. Mini-games that offer alternative forms of advancement? mini-mini-games that you can do on a weekly and sometimes daily basis that serve as a small distraction from your day's events? Even player owned houses, which surprisingly few MMOs can add to their resume.

 

I refuse to believe Runescape has become less unique. Even with the new graphics, the game still has its own flair.

 

The reason I think the game has lost its luster is ultimately RWT. Jagex did what they thought was best, and maybe they were right. But at one point, which I know for certain, Jagex even said THEY were sad to remove the wilderness pking and add a trade limit. So I am not an idiot expecting to log in one day with the old graphics, all the updates are gone, and everyone is suddenly making armor and running around yelling nice phrases. But Jagex is a group of game developers paid to do so. If anyone could find a solution, it's them. Other games have overcame similar cases of RWT. I don't remember specifically what they were but I remember it's happened.

 

You are absolutely right. A small grocery store I once knew used to have a policy of giving away food that expired. Over time, more people learned about this deal, and eventually what happened was you would have people roaming the store with carts full of this almost-expired food, waiting until closure to demand them. The store changed the policy to simply thanking the people for pointing out the expiration, no longer allowing them to take the food. The food itself was simply thrown out.

 

It took Jagex two years of deliberation to come to their ultimate decision. I think at one point Jagex stopped trusting their playerbase, especially when all of those high-ranking notable stakers were banned for real world trading. The saying goes, "build a better mouse trap, they'll build a better mouse." Every time Jagex upped the ante in detection, the botters upped their programming. Eventually, as Andrew pointed out several years ago, they would hit a point where the bots would be undetectable, making the previous year of constantly playing catchup, a waste of time.

 

Instead of patching the dam up while ignoring the underlying issue, Jagex decided to take a hammer to it and rebuild it.

 

As far as the game being changed by the players, like I said before it changed faster because of the removal of the wilderness. I think Jagex needs to give a push by making some major changes to the game, and the players will react in positive ways.

 

They are listening. Put your suggestions out there, and get some attention to them, and they will respond.

 

And yes I do agree there were trolls back then too. Now the problem in my opinion isn't even people being rude or flaming. They just care about feeding into their addiction of grinding while nobody gets in their way, rather than just logging in to meet a couple of friends and have a good time.

 

A lot of games have become this, but you can't be friends with everyone you meet. There will be players you get along with and those you do not, as the game community grows, the number you don't will just appear to grow disproportionately because those are the one you focus on.

 

So mainly what I wanted to say is this. Of course Runescape is still a good game with high potential. No, it can not be reversed. Just a few vital changes could be made. And thank you all for reading.

 

Can't argue with that.

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You didn't even play RS1. How can you call yourself a veteran?

 

Honestly, RS hasn't changed with the years. More content has been added, but since RS2 came out it has been the same game at the core.

 

Any changes in RS have only been improvements. The G.E. is much preferable to standing in banks saying "buying dds 50k" for hours. Even removing the Wilderness as good because it got rid of all the bots. Don't you remember the 100 bots per yew trees in the free worlds and even bots at sharks in members' worlds?

 

If anything has changed, it's been you. If in 2004 you were in third grade, you'd be about 9 at the time. Now you're 15. You've been going through some of the largest changes in your life. Many teenagers will look back with nostalgia to their childhoods because they felt more innocent then and had more free time. So you look back on your early days of playing RS with fondness.

 

Either embrace RS as it is now, or move on. There are lots of opportunities for you moving forward, and I wish you the best.

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Been around since 2005. I like the game and all of its new and old aspects. Why? Because it still is the same game I played 5 years ago. Only with more content, which, in my opinion, is a step to the better. I do miss the old days sometimes, but not the old game, but the feeling I got when playing this game as a newbie.

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I joined around mid 2004 as well, when Santa gave out yo-yos. AHH the fun in f2p going psycho when you were about to get a adamant/rune drop from pking. The times when you could ACTUALLY make pures by giving it some money from your main. Now your pure has to make money itself? Also it was pretty cool how nice the community was back then. It's a shame how much RuneScape has changed for the worse. Overpowered weapons like godswords and quests that give like 500,000 experience doesn't seem right...? Trade limit, what is this Tyrone elementary school? Grand exchange, I remember the fun of standing in World 1/2 and buying/selling merchandise, but now it's just buying from a machine? Sounds like a ripoff Capcom game. The new graphics are a shame too, I remember Jagex promising us an option to play the old graphics. Oh well they lied, just like they lied about updating more. What is it now, 2 updates a month and there both always quests? It's a no wonder RuneScape's player count massively plummeted. Yeah, players say the number of players dropped because there are no more autoers. What is that a joke? Autoers will always exist.

 

Oh well, the RuneScape era was good while it lasted (ended December 10 2007).

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If you play this game trying to chase the Golden Age back, you will never have fun.

 

I miss it too, I remember when i had 50s in melee stats and thought I was so good :P

 

But you need to learn to try to make the best out of the new changes to RuneScape, nothing will bring it back to the way it was in 2004.

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the problem is you

 

runescape used to be so much better because it was new, thats all

 

everything was exciting, everything was an adventure

 

now you treat it as a grind, buy x mats, grind x exp, buy x skillcape, max 'x stats, complete x minigames, grind x achievement

 

rinse, repeat

 

it's got easier, and thats great - would you pick the longer queue at the supermarket checkout for [cabbage]s and giggles? crawl at 20 on the motorway? paint your kitchen with a toothbrush?

 

the only thing i miss about the 'old days' was the good people on my friendlist who aren't around anymore and the sense of wonder at everything being so cool and the 'wow oh [bleep] is that a demon?' the 'hey i can smith a load of kiteshields and sell them to that guy and i'l get enough gp to buy my addy long!!!' factors... but thats life - you lose that whatever game you play when you become a 'veteran'.

 

as far as the actual gameplay goes - i actually enjoy it more now, and so do a lot of people

 

i like easy

 

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As someone said before, you changed. The game stopped being new. It started being serious. That happens when you play a game and explore it thoroughly. We could all go back to 2004 right now and things wouldn't change. There would just be less to do.

 

The RS community was never any better than it is now. It was bigger. And really, let's take a look at it...

Half of the people that were trying to sell you stuff were out to scam you.

Nobody trusted skillers because of all of the bots.

Nobody trusted PKers because they were all whiny pures.

Nobody trusted high levels because they had no lives.

Nobody trusted merchants because they were out to cheat you.

Nobody trusted low levels because they were noobs.

Nobody trusted mid levels because they didn't really fit anywhere else.

It took hours of tracking down a willing seller or buyer to get trading done - If you could find anyone at all.

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the problem is you

 

runescape used to be so much better because it was new, thats all

 

everything was exciting, everything was an adventure

 

now you treat it as a grind, buy x mats, grind x exp, buy x skillcape, max 'x stats, complete x minigames, grind x achievement

 

rinse, repeat

 

it's got easier, and thats great - would you pick the longer queue at the supermarket checkout for [cabbage]s and giggles? crawl at 20 on the motorway? paint your kitchen with a toothbrush?

 

the only thing i miss about the 'old days' was the good people on my friendlist who aren't around anymore and the sense of wonder at everything being so cool and the 'wow oh [bleep] is that a demon?' the 'hey i can smith a load of kiteshields and sell them to that guy and i'l get enough gp to buy my addy long!!!' factors... but thats life - you lose that whatever game you play when you become a 'veteran'.

 

as far as the actual gameplay goes - i actually enjoy it more now, and so do a lot of people

 

i like easy

 

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RuneScape only got easier because Jagex knew they were losing players fast, so they had to do something. They made everything 5x easier so the impatient kids can be attracted to it. Jagex doesn't even update for skillers anymore, they only update for the higher levels. New RuneScape fails, now it's "get a 99 skill and flaunt your cape" instead of having a sense of achievement. I remember I got 99 woodcutting the hard way and I was already around rank 500 in woodcutting. Now what Jagex adds some new things that makes it so much easier? RuneScape is a joke, not a funny one either.

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the problem is you

 

runescape used to be so much better because it was new, thats all

 

everything was exciting, everything was an adventure

 

now you treat it as a grind, buy x mats, grind x exp, buy x skillcape, max 'x stats, complete x minigames, grind x achievement

 

rinse, repeat

 

it's got easier, and thats great - would you pick the longer queue at the supermarket checkout for [cabbage]s and giggles? crawl at 20 on the motorway? paint your kitchen with a toothbrush?

 

the only thing i miss about the 'old days' was the good people on my friendlist who aren't around anymore and the sense of wonder at everything being so cool and the 'wow oh [bleep] is that a demon?' the 'hey i can smith a load of kiteshields and sell them to that guy and i'l get enough gp to buy my addy long!!!' factors... but thats life - you lose that whatever game you play when you become a 'veteran'.

 

as far as the actual gameplay goes - i actually enjoy it more now, and so do a lot of people

 

i like easy

 

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Wow. I actually agree with you for the second time. I must be drunk or high or something. :blink:

 

RuneScape only got easier because Jagex knew they were losing players fast, so they had to do something. They made everything 5x easier so the impatient kids can be attracted to it. Jagex doesn't even update for skillers anymore, they only update for the higher levels. New RuneScape fails, now it's "get a 99 skill and flaunt your cape" instead of having a sense of achievement. I remember I got 99 woodcutting the hard way and I was already around rank 500 in woodcutting. Now what Jagex adds some new things that makes it so much easier? RuneScape is a joke, not a funny one either.

First of all, let me see definitive proof that making the game easier was because of rapid player loss. I think the only time Jagex has had enough player loss that it needed to quickly resort to adding new stuff was the PvP update.

Nothing seems five times faster either. It still takes hours and hours to get your woodcutting to 99, or your fishing, or your defense. Maybe they did make it a little faster, but that was to reduce the grind so people could move on to the thousands of other things to do. And I am sure it was not for the impatient kids because they would still be leaving seeing how long it takes to advance levels in fishing and such. And I don't believe the impatient kids would resort to doing skills like that when they could just kill a lot of monsters.

Why do they update for the higher levels? To compensate. There was not much to do when you made it to level 126, there was not much to challenge you any further. Then they started adding a lot of stuff for these players who wanted even more challenge, and even added a higher level cap. What else do skillers want anyway?

Get a 99 skill and flaunt your cape instead of having a sense of achievement. First of all, you should still feel a bit of achievement if you hit 99, I don't see how the added bonus of getting a skill cape adds any less accomplishment. If you flaunt it, it is usually in a F2P world, and it is usually to be a douchebag. I still would like you to elaborate on how you don't get a sense of accomplishment because of a cape.

Thank you for showing off that you have 99 woodcutting, and no, there was never a hard way. From what I remember, the repetitiveness of clicking on various trees was never too hard. Unless Jagex had the trees encased in armor you had to break through back then, which I never remember, it was never hard. It has always been a simple skill. If you have to chop down a few less trees who cares? It's still an accomplishment.

Jagex adds new things to make it easier? Damn, they should have stopped adding weapons when they created adamant. We don't need rune or dragon, we could fight without it! Seriously, whatever they are adding to the game to make it easier, if you started the game nowadays and got these items would you still be complaining? No.

Runescape is quite a funny joke. Ha! Look at that name !Run Escape? Hilarious!

 

ITS TOO EASY is your reasoning here. You complain because you are apparently pissed that you had not waited for these easy items to get level 99 faster. Seriously, nobody cares. You wasted all that time in the past cutting down trees, get over the fact that it takes an hour less to do it nowadays. If you want, I bet Jagex could fix the problem by changing your woodcutting level to 1 again and you can get 99 faster.

ANd also, woodcutting was never harder than it is today. It is still the same repetitive clicking of trees and still the same slow process of getting logs and banking them, burning them, or dropping them.

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Now the rant is going down the drain.

 

There's nothing wrong venting your frustration because you can't fulfill your nostalgia.

 

It's another issue to try and demand that the game is reverted back to 2004 whether it's 1-2 changes or a massive revamp. Let me say it again - CHANGE IS INEVITABLE. There's no point ranting and trying to get Jagex to reinstate certain features of 2004 that you enjoyed. I'm sure you won't enjoy them now. You've changed. The game has changed too much too. Everyone would be ranting about how frustrating it is to buy/sell items, how much harder training is, etc etc. You might enjoy the game for a while, but soon frustration will overcome your feeling of nostalgia-c pleasure.

 

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There is an obvious pattern in everything that you are all saying. Basically, what I'm hearing is that Runescape is still good, it has only changed for the better, and I am only having Nostalgia. Of course this is true. Maybe even players who are starting now will feel the same way in later years. But I fear they will not. So what, change between ourselves and our adventures of Runescape are inevitable. But who says we can't slow it down? And that may sound silly, but its the truth. It's just like saying death is inevitable so we might as well not try to live on. If you think that way than there is a problem. I guess that may be an unfair comparison considering life is much deeper than Runescape. But it's the truth. Like I have said before, I'd just be happy to see some changes to the core of pvp and the trade limit. How can this hurt the game or it's players? If the game just leads back to where it is now, than oh well. But what if Jagex gets it right the second time and avoids this? And who can say it is impossible if it has never been tested? Going back to the life comparison: If you messed up your life and it is nearly gone, and then you went back in time to live it once again, wouldn't you fix your problems? And I don't want to hear things repeated. Don't waste my time by having me read what has already been said. Don't say something that is obvious. I want you to prove me wrong. So far, none of you have. You have came close, but neither side will ever "win". And please, even if you disagree with me slightly, tell me if you support some crucial updates. And if you don't, than tell me you don't.

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Alright, here's a story.

A few months ago they rereleased Runescape Classic. Including the lack of PvP and trade limits. Sound good so far? Everything you could ever want?

It only took a short time before I (and apparently many other players, because as of this post the world only has 62 players) wanted to go back to the game where we already had high(er) stats.

I for one stopped because it was, at its core, the same game that I knew so well. I could enjoy it with older controls, but I knew all of the quests, knew what I could do at higher levels, and so on.

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