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a friend is thinking of selling most of his cosmetic items (3a melee, frost mask) and lots of slayer drops to try to get a red. Good idea?

Personally, I say wait for the crash. Some people don't think partyhats higher than green are going to crash, though. It's a gamble either way.

 

For the sake of sounding "stupid" once again -- when you say "crash" are you indicating that this is a crash from the current "street" price, based on the supposedly necessary amounts of combinations of (junk + items + whatever) = (x) phat, or are you predicting that the actual, eventual "GE" suggested price and/or street price after the return of free trade will be substantially less than the actual current "GE" suggested price?

 

:unsure:

 

Jesus -- I think I just confused myself ... :blink:

 

My advise: If he can get it for a price that he couldn't before, then get it. This is especially so if he wants it to keep. In the very long run, he won't be sorry.


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Yellow + green buy for max after a few hrs now :thumbup:

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a friend is thinking of selling most of his cosmetic items (3a melee, frost mask) and lots of slayer drops to try to get a red. Good idea?

Personally, I say wait for the crash. Some people don't think partyhats higher than green are going to crash, though. It's a gamble either way.

 

For the sake of sounding "stupid" once again -- when you say "crash" are you indicating that this is a crash from the current "street" price, based on the supposedly necessary amounts of combinations of (junk + items + whatever) = (x) phat, or are you predicting that the actual, eventual "GE" suggested price and/or street price after the return of free trade will be substantially less than the actual current "GE" suggested price?

 

:unsure:

 

Jesus -- I think I just confused myself ... :blink:

I mean it'll be worth significantly less than its street implies now. GE phat prices are completely arbitrary, so saying whether or not it will crash below that point is tough to say, especially once free trade comes out and does away with any economic significance passing med price would have.

 

This assuming it will crash at all, which I think it will, but it may not.


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a friend is thinking of selling most of his cosmetic items (3a melee, frost mask) and lots of slayer drops to try to get a red. Good idea?

Personally, I say wait for the crash. Some people don't think partyhats higher than green are going to crash, though. It's a gamble either way.

 

For the sake of sounding "stupid" once again -- when you say "crash" are you indicating that this is a crash from the current "street" price, based on the supposedly necessary amounts of combinations of (junk + items + whatever) = (x) phat, or are you predicting that the actual, eventual "GE" suggested price and/or street price after the return of free trade will be substantially less than the actual current "GE" suggested price?

 

:unsure:

 

Jesus -- I think I just confused myself ... :blink:

I mean it'll be worth significantly less than its street implies now. GE phat prices are completely arbitrary, so saying whether or not it will crash below that point is tough to say, especially once free trade comes out and does away with any economic significance passing med price would have.

 

This assuming it will crash at all, which I think it will, but it may not.

 

Ok -- but if people keep buying "x phat" at GE max or med price now, won't it go up in "cash" value?

 

:unsure:


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Ok -- but if people keep buying "x phat" at GE max or med price now, won't it go up in "cash" value?

Yeah, its trade price will go up as people buy them at max. That only has significance for another 12 days, though.


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Ok -- but if people keep buying "x phat" at GE max or med price now, won't it go up in "cash" value?

Yeah, its trade price will go up as people buy them at max. That only has significance for another 12 days, though.

... and then all bets are off, I see ...

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I have an offer in for a green partyhat at max for 11 hours now. Nothing yet.

 

Which phats do you guys think will be buyable in GE without snipe-bots?

 

(I'd rather have a "higher" phat. :razz: )

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It's funny how while all of this has been happening, santa hats have remained stable around 60M (would have expected pure chaos everywhere in the rares market with partyhats crashing). But then again those did already fall 40%. If green becomes buyable in the GE, I'm definitely taking one. :)


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Interesting how torva pieces updated twice in GE already while pernix and virtus haven't even updated once. Maybe they're on different timers? I've had an offer for pernix body for max since the Nex update. My only hope for getting one would be if the GE updated before free trade comes out, everyone else puts back their offer for max, and a piece gets CS'ed to me. Heh.

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Interesting how torva pieces updated twice in GE already while pernix and virtus haven't even updated once. Maybe they're on different timers? I've had an offer for pernix body for max since the Nex update. My only hope for getting one would be if the GE updated before free trade comes out, everyone else puts back their offer for max, and a piece gets CS'ed to me. Heh.

Ironically, Pernix is probably more in-demand than Torva. There's only really one place where Torva would be worth its cost to use and that's solo Bandos, but Pernix would help immensely at Kree'Arra, Corp, and Nex. Everywhere else, Torva is just overkill since with plain ol' Bandos you can still stay at any of the other GWD bosses in a duo/trio for as long as you have familiars/pray pots. Healing really isn't an issue.


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Makes me think back to that uhhh, Krimandy pic with the 500 pumpkins

 

 

I feel for that person right about now.

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Interesting how torva pieces updated twice in GE already while pernix and virtus haven't even updated once. Maybe they're on different timers? I've had an offer for pernix body for max since the Nex update. My only hope for getting one would be if the GE updated before free trade comes out, everyone else puts back their offer for max, and a piece gets CS'ed to me. Heh.

Ironically, Pernix is probably more in-demand than Torva. There's only really one place where Torva would be worth its cost to use and that's solo Bandos, but Pernix would help immensely at Kree'Arra, Corp, and Nex. Everywhere else, Torva is just overkill since with plain ol' Bandos you can still stay at any of the other GWD bosses in a duo/trio for as long as you have familiars/pray pots. Healing really isn't an issue.

Torva would also be really good for Sara and Zammy solos with divine (you use melee armor and mage prayer for both of them). But yeah, as far as mainstream boss strategies, Pernix is a lot more useful than Torva.


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Interesting how torva pieces updated twice in GE already while pernix and virtus haven't even updated once. Maybe they're on different timers? I've had an offer for pernix body for max since the Nex update. My only hope for getting one would be if the GE updated before free trade comes out, everyone else puts back their offer for max, and a piece gets CS'ed to me. Heh.

Ironically, Pernix is probably more in-demand than Torva. There's only really one place where Torva would be worth its cost to use and that's solo Bandos, but Pernix would help immensely at Kree'Arra, Corp, and Nex. Everywhere else, Torva is just overkill since with plain ol' Bandos you can still stay at any of the other GWD bosses in a duo/trio for as long as you have familiars/pray pots. Healing really isn't an issue.

Torva would also be really good for Sara and Zammy solos with divine (you use melee armor and mage prayer for both of them). But yeah, as far as mainstream boss strategies, Pernix is a lot more useful than Torva.

Zammy solo is a wonderful waste of resources, since the best drop is a paltry ~15m. Sara Solo is viable, though. I also thought I'd mention that in the case of GWD solos, you'd best do it NOW if you want to because after Free Trade comes out the non-LS worlds will likely be as packed as the LS ones. Trusted friends will start camping the non-LS worlds and just splitting the GP after they sell the items, as was done before LS existed.


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Zammy solo is a wonderful waste of resources, since the best drop is a paltry ~15m. Sara Solo is viable, though. I also thought I'd mention that in the case of GWD solos, you'd best do it NOW if you want to because after Free Trade comes out the non-LS worlds will likely be as packed as the LS ones. Trusted friends will start camping the non-LS worlds and just splitting the GP after they sell the items, as was done before LS existed.

Re: Zammy solo, yeah, but it's a really easy and pretty fun way to spend a greater demon task now that they updated Kril to count as one :thumbup:. The killcount is super fast and it's never crowded.

 

As for the soloing thing, people already do this, but the issue is that your group is crashable by one guy if you're not lootsharing. I don't see much changing on that front, because you'd still need at least one maxed out player with good gear to stand a chance against crashers.


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How much is onyx street atm?


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Zammy solo is a wonderful waste of resources, since the best drop is a paltry ~15m. Sara Solo is viable, though. I also thought I'd mention that in the case of GWD solos, you'd best do it NOW if you want to because after Free Trade comes out the non-LS worlds will likely be as packed as the LS ones. Trusted friends will start camping the non-LS worlds and just splitting the GP after they sell the items, as was done before LS existed.

Re: Zammy solo, yeah, but it's a really easy and pretty fun way to spend a greater demon task now that they updated Kril to count as one :thumbup:. The killcount is super fast and it's never crowded.

 

As for the soloing thing, people already do this, but the issue is that your group is crashable by one guy if you're not lootsharing. I don't see much changing on that front, because you'd still need at least one maxed out player with good gear to stand a chance against crashers.

I'm hoping that the "trust" issue will keep EVERY non-LS world from becoming super-crowded like the LS worlds. Hopefully, dumb as they are, the RSOF teams (which comprise most of the teams at GWD) have enough sense not to trust each other to be truthful about drops.


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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at


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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at

I don't expect it to rise- if anything deflation will cause it to fall slightly.


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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at

I don't expect it to rise- if anything deflation will cause it to fall slightly.

 

The rate of inflation slowed not stopped. We need another major money sink like construction before we really get deflation

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Makes me think back to that uhhh, Krimandy pic with the 500 pumpkins

I feel for that person right about now.

He said that his goal wasn't to be the richest person in RS, he just wanted to get 500 pumpkins. So he acheived his goal so I presume that he doesn't care all that much if they are worth 100B or 10B. Then again, that much work put into getting something that crashed so hard can never be completely ignored. He said he was likely to quit after he got them all, so I assume he will quit unless he was one of those old school PKers / stakers.

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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at

I don't expect it to rise- if anything deflation will cause it to fall slightly.

 

The rate of inflation slowed not stopped. We need another major money sink like construction before we really get deflation

Since the average price of items hasn't been rising much if at all in the last several months, and now we're removing the single largest source of inflation in the game, I don't really expect prices to rise...


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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at

 

To add to that, is both the uncut and cut sellable at around GE mid price? If so, it's like 600k profit just for cutting one


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Its ge price?? O_o

 

if so when do you expect it to rise

 

and what to stabilize at

I don't expect it to rise- if anything deflation will cause it to fall slightly.

 

The rate of inflation slowed not stopped. We need another major money sink like construction before we really get deflation

 

Ah but we have one, and it grows bigger each day. Chaotics and Degrading armor.

 

In small numbers it may not sound like alot, but if you consider how many thousands's of chaotic weapons there are draining GP at 200k an hour, its alot of GP. 5k chaotic weapons running every day (24/7) drains 1 BILLION gp out of the game every hour. And every person that gets a chaotic adds to that list. (I know its not *exactly* 200k an hour, but you get my point)

 

Add in the removal of statue items, and the fact mage training is commonly done with battle magic such as barraging instead of the traditional alching, and we might even start breaking even if not starting a deflation.

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That's not really a fair calculation, since realistically chaotics uncharge at a rate of <100K/hr, and a lot of people use tokens to charge chaotics

 

OT: Can we get like a running list of expected FT prices of:

-- all p hats

-- ely/div

-- nex gear


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