mister_moocky Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Black dhide body and chaps only has 3 better mage def over void top and bottom. Infact void bottom has better mage def than black chaps. quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Black dhide body and chaps only has 3 better mage def over void top and bottom. Infact void bottom has better mage def than black chaps.Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy who said dhide>void was just an idiot. I'd belive bandos+fighter helm is better but for 15m he can't get that anyway. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Maz was right that Dhide > void, but not for defence reasons. It's because dhide is more accurate. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Maz was right that Dhide > void, but not for defence reasons. It's because dhide is more accurate.Don't be so vague, just because you like it and add that d'hide is accurate because you can wear barrow gloves with it (and fighter hat). A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Maz was right that Dhide > void, but not for defence reasons. It's because dhide is more accurate.Don't be so vague, just because you like it and add that d'hide is accurate because you can wear barrow gloves with it (and fighter hat).Okay mom. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Lol. It just seems like you are alwyas trying to make your statements more controversal by not telling the full story. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlighted Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 you'll spend 15m in supplies (food and potions) till you get a sigil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Maz was right that Dhide > void, but not for defence reasons. It's because dhide is more accurate.You keep saying that but how in the world is d hide more accurate then void with melee..... And don't say because void sucks again, that's not an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezkaton Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Maz was right that Dhide > void, but not for defence reasons. It's because dhide is more accurate.You keep saying that but how in the world is d hide more accurate then void with melee..... And don't say because void sucks again, that's not an answer. You heard Bedman - Fighter hat and Barrows gloves. Reacting impulsively and saying what's on your mind feels oh so good.. for a little, until you realize you just started WWIII.2672nd person to reach 2496 total.Thanks to Wicked for the awesome siggy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeetOTG Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Want me to spell it out for you? This is why you don't wear void to corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagsire Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Black dhide body and chaps only has 3 better mage def over void top and bottom. Infact void bottom has better mage def than black chaps.Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy who said dhide>void was just an idiot. I'd belive bandos+fighter helm is better but for 15m he can't get that anyway. Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy with 71 herb has every right to call an experienced corper out. I'd beleive his experience + overloads is better but for your bank he can't get that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Black dhide body and chaps only has 3 better mage def over void top and bottom. Infact void bottom has better mage def than black chaps.Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy who said dhide>void was just an idiot. I'd belive bandos+fighter helm is better but for 15m he can't get that anyway.I'm sorry but please don't tell me how to kill a boss I've been killing for 5-10 hours a day for 4 months when you haven't spent more than an hour thereBandos is a joke at corp unless it's ffa, unless you enjoy 6 kills a trip over 14 in a 6 manVoid is -17 Attack and -12 str compared to Dhide + fighter hatvoid is 101 stab + 10% 111 stab, hides is 118.. void is 91 str + 10% 101.. dhide is 103Void is 147/147/148 Melee Def 116 mage def, D hide is 188/177/194 magic def is 112 (you pray mage so melee def matters), Karils is blahblah melee def ( you pray melee in karils ) and 134 mage defvoid is 10 hours risked, dhide risks 2 mins of workplz go back to skilling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bfiterpk6 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 may i say good fight? lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Black dhide body and chaps only has 3 better mage def over void top and bottom. Infact void bottom has better mage def than black chaps.Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy who said dhide>void was just an idiot. I'd belive bandos+fighter helm is better but for 15m he can't get that anyway. Yeah I'm pretty sure the guy with 71 herb has every right to call an experienced corper out. I'd beleive his experience + overloads is better but for your bank he can't get that anyway.Osrry next time I'll remember to train my herblore before I use logic. And in fact I've gotten 2 elixers and missed 4 sigils at Corp so don't assume you know [cabbage]. Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determinedIt's a combination of attack bonuses and level obviously, them multiplied by any multiplier (prayer, void, etc.) DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determinedIt's a combination of attack bonuses and level obviously, them multiplied by any multiplier (prayer, void, etc.)...which would make void a multiplier of your bonuses. Hence Maz's #-o How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determinedIt's a combination of attack bonuses and level obviously, them multiplied by any multiplier (prayer, void, etc.)I don't even know what to say to that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determinedIt's a combination of attack bonuses and level obviously, them multiplied by any multiplier (prayer, void, etc.)I don't even know what to say to that lolSimply don't be so selfish and see that you are incorrect: void DID increase my accuracy against steel dragons after testing around 200 of them.. - At level 85 ranged, with other outfits optimal (no access to extreme potions or the full slayer helm at that time though) First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Simply don't be so selfish and see that you are incorrect: void DID increase my accuracy against steel dragons after testing around 200 of them.. - At level 85 ranged, with other outfits optimal (no access to extreme potions or the full slayer helm at that time though)I thought this thread was about corping, not steel dragon hunting. And Maz was being neither selfish nor incorrect. I am -> :-k How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Anyone who's seen Maz's blog knows that he's more than likely the most experienced Corper on these forums. As far as I'm aware, Bladewing seems to be pretty experienced, too. Knowing both of them, they've thoroughly tested both d'hide and void, and I would trust their opinions over most others. I literally lol'd when Aeil called Maz an idiot. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagsire Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I literally lol'd when Aeil called Maz an idiot. This. Osrry next time I'll remember to train my herblore before I use logic. And in fact I've gotten 2 elixers and missed 4 sigils at Corp so don't assume you know [cabbage]. Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. I've corped too, without overloads it's useless, i've still managed a sigil, you can't say the same, I will assume I know [cabbage] since maz pretty much lectures me on how to corp. You should stick to pking, even if you do suck at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Also, void is definetly not a bonus to your bonuses but your over all accuracy. #-o how do you think overall accuracy is determinedIt's a combination of attack bonuses and level obviously, them multiplied by any multiplier (prayer, void, etc.)I don't even know what to say to that lolSimply don't be so selfish and see that you are incorrect: void DID increase my accuracy against steel dragons after testing around 200 of them.. - At level 85 ranged, with other outfits optimal (no access to extreme potions or the full slayer helm at that time though)Accuracy = ((Attack level +pot bonus) x pray bonus x other)+ Attack bonusVoid = ((125) x 1.29 x 1.1 ) + 101 = 278.375Dhide/Karils = ((125) 1.29 ) + 118 = 279.25You might say they're almost identical, which brings us back to melee def (primarily) and mage def and the risk in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3PointMan Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Maz Wins /discussion what i'm doing now:soundcloud.com/student1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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