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the chance of there not being thousands, if not millions of other populated planets among the countless billions upon billions of planets out there amongst our 100 bilion plus galaxies is so stupidly small, it'd be a cruel joke of nature if we're the only advanced biological lifeform out there. the chance of this life having evolved into a form resembling our own is however roughly the same, there are so many minute differences in the evolutionary chain from the single celled organism that life must start out as, its just imposible that many of these worlds have actually evolved a humanoid lifeform that has then survived.
and as for people saying well why would aliens come along and throw us into oblivion for our small, crowded planet, well because the opposite would require morals, and morals are a very human thoght pattern.



the evolutionary chain/cycle on another planet, solar system, galaxy can possibly have a huge variance of speed faster or even slower than our own.... your post sounds as if it's assuming evolution is only a slow progression as if it were a Constant when in fact there are instances of fast progression of evolution on our own planet

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To some of the people who were talking about 100 billion planets, that is most likely not even close to the real number. With at least four hundred billion galaxies that we have seen with a moderate estimate of one hundred billion stars with let's say, three planets each. (This smallish number is to compensate for binary or higher systems of stars, which are much more common than our sun which is in fact a rarity on it's own) That comes out to (400,000,000,000)(100,000,000,000)(3) You can do the math to see the possibilities.

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However, you must remember that you can't just make a possibility into a certainty.



indeed, but as i said, it would an extremely sick joke of nature if were the only advanced biological lifeforms.



Yea I know. My mom says that somewhere in the Bible it says God only made Earth for humans. I can't find the verse, so shes probably making [cabbage] up like she usually does. And I know there probably is life out there, but you can't say there are aliens. If you're looking at it from an atheistic stand point, theres actually more proof for God than aliens. IMO.

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Kill the peaceful aliens, reverse-engineer their technology, plunder their resources. Rinse and repeat = profit??!
(I wonder what the different governments would actually do if they had the opportunity)

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Why does everyone think Aliens will be advanced? Serious? What if they are neanderthals essentially? I mean I personally don't believe they exist, however as stated earlier its mathematically possible, it just doesn't coincide with my religion.

If there are aliens out there, there will be ones much less technologically advanced. However, the ones that do find us will be far more technologically advanced.

I'd just rather we avoid them if possible, and if there was contact, it would be to negotiate a mutual agreement so that we can peacefully exist and keep to our own areas.

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Yea I know. My mom says that somewhere in the Bible it says God only made Earth for humans. I can't find the verse, so shes probably making [cabbage] up like she usually does. And I know there probably is life out there, but you can't say there are aliens. If you're looking at it from an atheistic stand point, theres actually more proof for God than aliens. IMO.

I don't understand, why couldn't there be God and aliens? I don't think the bible ever says that aliens don't exist.
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Yea I know. My mom says that somewhere in the Bible it says God only made Earth for humans. I can't find the verse, so shes probably making [cabbage] up like she usually does. And I know there probably is life out there, but you can't say there are aliens. If you're looking at it from an atheistic stand point, theres actually more proof for God than aliens. IMO.

I don't understand, why couldn't there be God and aliens? I don't think the bible ever says that aliens don't exist.


ya, cause that would be the next best scapegoat reason religion would have to keep believing in god

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However, you must remember that you can't just make a possibility into a certainty.



indeed, but as i said, it would an extremely sick joke of nature if were the only advanced biological lifeforms.



Yea I know. My mom says that somewhere in the Bible it says God only made Earth for humans. I can't find the verse, so shes probably making [cabbage] up like she usually does. And I know there probably is life out there, but you can't say there are aliens. If you're looking at it from an atheistic stand point, theres actually more proof for God than aliens. IMO.


All that verse says is that this planet was created for us.

It doesn't say he didn't create other planets for other lifeforms. Neither does it say it does, but you can't say which is correct without seeing other lifeforms, or asking God.
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Yea I know. My mom says that somewhere in the Bible it says God only made Earth for humans. I can't find the verse, so shes probably making [cabbage] up like she usually does. And I know there probably is life out there, but you can't say there are aliens. If you're looking at it from an atheistic stand point, theres actually more proof for God than aliens. IMO.

I don't understand, why couldn't there be God and aliens? I don't think the bible ever says that aliens don't exist.


Never said there couldn't be. All I'm *trying* to say is:

Proof for aliens:
Basically the chance of there being no other aliens is so small... Well its like yeah. (lol)

Proof for God:
Really gonna not get into this, debating God on off-topic is [developmentally delayed]ed. But for the Christians out there the proof they have is more than "the chance of there not being a god is so "infinitesimal"

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The one thing that strikes me about aliens is how perfect the earth is...just reading the wikipedia article tons of things jump out at me. Such as "30 km away, it would be too hot" "only known planet to have this composition, out of thousands studied", stuff like that. The Earth really is a miracle in many ways, which makes me think it's unlikely there is any other life out there.

But on the other hand, I'm a beleiver in God, and I beleive he wouldn't waste time. Why make so many planets if there was really no purpose for them?

In terms of an alien invasion, I think we can assume that knowing what we do about the universe they would have to be advanced to make it here in the first place. There's no solid proof an "invasion" is incoming, and even if there was their technology would be more than enough to eliminate us, so why worry about it?

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"30 km away, it would be too hot"

What should be 30 km away from what?
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Kill the peaceful aliens, reverse-engineer their technology, plunder their resources. Rinse and repeat = profit??!
(I wonder what the different governments would actually do if they had the opportunity)

One of the funniest things mentioned about topic like these was this quote:

"If we ever find aliens, the first thing we'll do is Christianize them."

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I think he makes an interesting point which probably hasn't been made quite so publicly before. You could also subscribe to the view point that any sufficiently advanced species will eventually destroy itself (a road we could well be going down, and almost went down in the past).

Anyway, I think the probability of there being some kind of life somewhere else in the universe is so close to one it hurts, I mean there are good candidates for life elsewhere in just our solar system. That life could have a very different chemistry/biology to us, but I think that in many ways it would be more similar than we might expect. I mean if we're looking for candidates of intelligent life then we're looking for Earth-like planets which will have similar selective pressures in terms of evolution as ours, and so by convergent evolution our "design" may well be optimal across the universe for planets similar to ours. Speculative, but interesting.
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Kill the peaceful aliens, reverse-engineer their technology, plunder their resources. Rinse and repeat = profit??!
(I wonder what the different governments would actually do if they had the opportunity)

One of the funniest things mentioned about topic like these was this quote:

"If we ever find aliens, the first thing we'll do is Christianize them."

The whole Exploration Era (1500s-1700s) will return for space.

If the aliens find us first, they probably have better technology, and would probably try to convert us.
Generally, depending on who finds who, we might be on the receiving end of the whole colonize and exploit thing.

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Kill the peaceful aliens, reverse-engineer their technology, plunder their resources. Rinse and repeat = profit??!
(I wonder what the different governments would actually do if they had the opportunity)

One of the funniest things mentioned about topic like these was this quote:

"If we ever find aliens, the first thing we'll do is Christianize them."

The whole Exploration Era (1500s-1700s) will return for space.

If the aliens find us first, they probably have better technology, and would probably try to convert us.
Generally, depending on who finds who, we might be on the receiving end of the whole colonize and exploit thing.

That works too. :mrgreen:
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The idea of colonizing aliens goes way back before Independence Day. Try reading David Gerrold's Chtorr series for a real gut-check.

Imagine a multi-generational ship bringing aliens + their equivalent of crops & livestock. They aren't coming to blow up the White House - they are coming to start a new ecosystem.

And the only way you fit into this new ecosystem is as an appetizer.

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I'm actually beginning to think the colonizing alien stories come from history. They're either showing that exploiting the environment is only fun when we're the exploiters or warning about what we could be doing if we clean out the planet.

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Never said there couldn't be. All I'm *trying* to say is:

Proof for aliens:
Basically the chance of there being no other aliens is so small... Well its like yeah. (lol)

Proof for God:
Really gonna not get into this, debating God on off-topic is [developmentally delayed]ed. But for the Christians out there the proof they have is more than "the chance of there not being a god is so "infinitesimal"

Ohh I see what you mean now haha. Sorry it was the wording :unsure:

The one thing that strikes me about aliens is how perfect the earth is...just reading the wikipedia article tons of things jump out at me. Such as "30 km away, it would be too hot" "only known planet to have this composition, out of thousands studied", stuff like that. The Earth really is a miracle in many ways, which makes me think it's unlikely there is any other life out there.

But on the other hand, I'm a beleiver in God, and I beleive he wouldn't waste time. Why make so many planets if there was really no purpose for them?

In terms of an alien invasion, I think we can assume that knowing what we do about the universe they would have to be advanced to make it here in the first place. There's no solid proof an "invasion" is incoming, and even if there was their technology would be more than enough to eliminate us, so why worry about it?

Well the earth is only perfect to us because we evolved and adpated to its conditions.

But at the same time I agree with you, it seems that the way everything is for us, is slightly too convenient... lol :D
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When Columbus came, he raped, butchered, and murdered our men women and children. (yet the history books make him out to be a hero)

Let's just hope the Aliens don't do the same thing.

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