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SP or Jugg was 100% necessary in MW2 because without it the balance of the red perks would have been ruined, with everyone using either Hardline or Cold Blooded. In MW2 they made the base weapon damage too high, people have confirmed that in Black Ops you actually have to land a good number of shots (maybe no 1 hit M16?). I'm just worried about what thats going to do to the snipers.

Exactly, if sniping is [bleep]ed then there's no real reason for me to play anymore lol.

I'm sure they didn't just say, "Okay, let's take out everything that makes sniping good and then do nothing to replace it!"


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I have faith in Treyarch. IW got too cocky and thought they could add anything to the gameplay and the title alone (not the content) would earn the game praise among its players. Yea, that worked for about a month, then people discovered OMA and commando...

 

Treyarch, on the other hand, are very cautious and observant of players' opinions. Cod WaW was a damn good game and I'd punch anyone in the face who said it wasn't. Tell me why it wasn't.


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What I dont understand, is the hate of WaW...


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I have faith in Treyarch. IW got too cocky and thought they could add anything to the gameplay and the title alone (not the content) would earn the game praise among its players. Yea, that worked for about a month, then people discovered OMA and commando...

 

Treyarch, on the other hand, are very cautious and observant of players' opinions. Cod WaW was a damn good game and I'd punch anyone in the face who said it wasn't. Tell me why it wasn't.

Dogs, rifle grenades, overpowered MP40, juggernaut...

 

Kidding of course. WAW was a great game and had some minor flaws which turned into major flaws as they were abused more and more. If Treyarch is more careful balancing Black Ops then it has the potential to be an amazing game.


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What I dont understand, is the hate of WaW...

Because it was a post-MW CoD game. A lot of people were wondering "why go back to WWII?" when they heard about it. But it was still pretty good :thumbup:


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I am very confident that Treyarch will do a great job at this game. I never played WaW but I heard from others that all and all they did a good job at it. Also they have learned from the mistakes from IW and have improved on what was needed for this game. The only that strikes me as odd was the use of the tact insertion. I don't see the point of it used in the game. But hopefully we can do something in order to fix boosters.


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. But hopefully we can do something in order to fix boosters.

Freaking, go Sandy Ravage on their asses. Thats what I did when I played free for all.


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Who honestly uses tactical insertions aside for boosting? In all my time of playing I don't think I have seen a single person legitimately use one.

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Used it like the last few levels, before I prestiged, when I sniped.

But after that I never touched it


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It was actually pretty useful if you weren't going for killlstreaks. I remember hiding in the room to the right of the main sniping building by A (the one you get to by jumping across from the platform). I would drop a tac insert, go prone, hop up and kill someone. Repeated a few times until I got killed, then respawn and wait 20 seconds and do it again. Surprisingly effective.


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In hindsight WaW was pretty good, just not as good as CoD4. The Wii version must have been apalling though. I bought the WaW map pack bundle a couple of months ago, the last zombie map is pretty awesome.

 

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Maybe on the [cabbage]ty Wii version, but WaW definately has the least tubing out of the 3. Probably because tubes were only available on semi autos/bolt actions that were unappealing to noobs. Its fine for the tubes to be there but you need to sacrifice something to use them, in MW2 they don't even take perk 1.

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Who honestly uses tactical insertions aside for boosting? In all my time of playing I don't think I have seen a single person legitimately use one.

After playing around with the scout sniper class I used it a little while sniping so i could get into the best positions without having to run from my spawn.

Plus, if your rushing for objectives tactical insertions are just plain godly....


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SP or Jugg was 100% necessary in MW2 because without it the balance of the red perks would have been ruined, with everyone using either Hardline or Cold Blooded. In MW2 they made the base weapon damage too high, people have confirmed that in Black Ops you actually have to land a good number of shots (maybe no 1 hit M16?). I'm just worried about what thats going to do to the snipers.

Exactly, if sniping is [bleep]ed then there's no real reason for me to play anymore lol.

I'm sure they didn't just say, "Okay, let's take out everything that makes sniping good and then do nothing to replace it!"

Pipe down.


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Used it like the last few levels, before I prestiged, when I sniped.

But after that I never touched it

 

Tac Insert usually gets beaten out by claymores / c4 as theyre much more usefull.

 

I personally snipe with either claymore or semtex.


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Black ops servers aren't moddable. Damnit.

 

Source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-dedicated-servers-arent-moddable/

 

EDIT: Aparently this is for ranked servers only, which is understandable (Instant max level = bad). I'm not so sure about unranked, anybody know any information on this?


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Black ops servers aren't moddable. Damnit.

 

Source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-dedicated-servers-arent-moddable/

 

EDIT: Aparently this is for ranked servers only, which is understandable (Instant max level = bad). I'm not so sure about unranked, anybody know any information on this?

 

I hope so that unranked / custom games / etc will have modding. Thats half the fun of the game. The ranked stuff does make sense, but I hope they dont pull an IW.


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Black ops servers aren't moddable. Damnit.

 

Source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-dedicated-servers-arent-moddable/

 

EDIT: Aparently this is for ranked servers only, which is understandable (Instant max level = bad). I'm not so sure about unranked, anybody know any information on this?

I seem to recall reading ~30 minutes ago that it would be free. But that's just me.


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Black ops servers aren't moddable. Damnit.

 

Source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-dedicated-servers-arent-moddable/

 

EDIT: Aparently this is for ranked servers only, which is understandable (Instant max level = bad). I'm not so sure about unranked, anybody know any information on this?

 

I hope so that unranked / custom games / etc will have modding. Thats half the fun of the game. The ranked stuff does make sense, but I hope they dont pull an IW.

 

 

Mod tools have already been announced for unranked servers.

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Black ops servers aren't moddable. Damnit.

 

Source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-dedicated-servers-arent-moddable/

 

EDIT: Aparently this is for ranked servers only, which is understandable (Instant max level = bad). I'm not so sure about unranked, anybody know any information on this?

 

I hope so that unranked / custom games / etc will have modding. Thats half the fun of the game. The ranked stuff does make sense, but I hope they dont pull an IW.

 

 

Mod tools have already been announced for unranked servers.

 

Yeah.

 

I'm fine with the setup by any rate. Hell if people don't want to grind up their guns they can always just play unranked on a modded server which gives everyone all the options (pro mod did this in CoD4).

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thats for PC only though, right?


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thats for PC only though, right?

Yes...


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thats for PC only though, right?

Yes...

I think he's implying we shouldn't give a [cabbage].


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So I hear that tacticall insertions are not going to be allowed in Free For All.


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