TTanT Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I prefer putting my punctuation outside of quotations because putting it inside makes things make less sense. Ex:Did he say "I was flying?"That implies that the quoted person asked if they were flying, which could be entirely false. Compared to:Did he say "I was flying"?Which makes it obvious that what he said was a statement, and you're asking about the statement. Punctuation inside quotation creates more room for misunderstanding, which is the polar opposite of what punctuation should do. And personally I don't use "whom" because it's basically ceased to be a part of the English language. Languages evolve, and when basically no-one uses a word right, then the "incorrect" definition will become correct by popular demand. On this note:I hate it when people decide to be [wagon] about grammar for no good reason. If it doesn't interfere with understanding then you should get your trousers out of their twist and move on. The only difference between Hitler and the man next door who comes home and beats his kids every day is circumstance. The intent is the same-- to harm others.[hide=Tifers say the darndest things]I told her there was a secret method to doing it - and there is - but my once nimble and agile fingers were unable to perform because I was under the influence.I would laugh, not hate. I'm a male. :(Since when was Ireland an island...? :wall:I actually have a hobby of licking public toilet seats.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I hate it when people decide to be [wagon] about grammar for no good reason. If it doesn't interfere with understanding then you should get your trousers out of their twist and move on.Exactly! Especially online, English may not be their first language. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I hope you guys realize that there's a reason for why some of us get annoyed at the use of poor grammar. If people write with poor grammar, it's annoying to read, which is like trying to listen to someone who's annoying to listen to. Oh, and I've edited in some statistics on this thread. I'm surprised I'm still the top poster with my year-long hiatus. Who posted in: Things that annoy the HELL out of you. Member name Posts Assume Nothing 488 Dizzle229 457 Alg 404 Rob 387 Giordano 381 Riku3220 374 Duff 373 H2PM 336 Nomrombom 317 Guile Cherry 316 champion 278 K4ylan 267 Vezon Dash 230 Star. 220 Saru_Inc 206 obfuscator 186 AppallingCoatHanger 176 Toki_Hakurei 170 The_Gabe 163 Randox 158 Dax 154 Maleficus1055 150 Ginger_Warrior 149 ItsASpork 146 ElkNight 142 Distracted 139 Maze 132 Surprise 129 TTanT 120 Crocefisso 116 Tylerelyt 113 Dupin 107 Sbrideau 105 Killerred005 100 sarg1010 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estonian dude Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I am a grammar-nazi in both English and Estonian. I am proven to be really good in both of them and I tend to correct people. Even way more than I should. I don't know why exactly, but I think it might come from that that if I can learn 2 languages that fluently, everyone can. And what is weird is that I have never studied grammar rules specifically, it just comes to me. So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends. RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.I strike out every other week.Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.Randox pretty much stays rational.Etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTanT Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ^We realize there's a reason, but there's such a thing as going overboard. If thei tipe lyke dis then you can feel free to yell at them for it, but freaking out at someone over using a slang term or maybe forgetting a a bit of punctuation (and of course typos*) is just a dick move. And if you correct my grammar and I can prove that your point is either wrong or arguable I swear to all that is holy I will never ever let you live it down. *Yes typos aren't grammatical mistakes, but people often treat them as such. Forums are one thing (although if a post has, say, a thousand characters a typo or two really is pretty excusable), but freaking out over them in an FPS (or any other such environment where you have to type fast so that no-one kills you while you're distracted) is just stupid. The only difference between Hitler and the man next door who comes home and beats his kids every day is circumstance. The intent is the same-- to harm others.[hide=Tifers say the darndest things]I told her there was a secret method to doing it - and there is - but my once nimble and agile fingers were unable to perform because I was under the influence.I would laugh, not hate. I'm a male. :(Since when was Ireland an island...? :wall:I actually have a hobby of licking public toilet seats.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Who posted in: Things that annoy the HELL out of you. Member name Posts Assume Nothing 488 Dizzle229 457 Alg 404 Rob 387 Giordano 381 Riku3220 374 Duff 373 H2PM 336 Nomrombom 317 Guile Cherry 316 champion 278 K4ylan 267 Vezon Dash 230 Star. 220 Saru_Inc 206 obfuscator 186 AppallingCoatHanger 176 Toki_Hakurei 170 The_Gabe 163 Randox 158 Dax 154 Maleficus1055 150 Ginger_Warrior 149 ItsASpork 146 ElkNight 142 Distracted 139 Maze 132 Surprise 129 TTanT 120 Crocefisso 116 Tylerelyt 113 Dupin 107 Sbrideau 105 Killerred005 100 sarg1010 100 ^list of the most easily-annoyed TIFers :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star. Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Heh, I think it's a fair bit of commenting on other posts rather than actual complaints. ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ^We realize there's a reason, but there's such a thing as going overboard. If thei tipe lyke dis then you can feel free to yell at them for it, but freaking out at someone over using a slang term or maybe forgetting a a bit of punctuation (and of course typos*) is just a dick move. And if you correct my grammar and I can prove that your point is either wrong or arguable I swear to all that is holy I will never ever let you live it down. *Yes typos aren't grammatical mistakes, but people often treat them as such. Forums are one thing (although if a post has, say, a thousand characters a typo or two really is pretty excusable), but freaking out over them in an FPS (or any other such environment where you have to type fast so that no-one kills you while you're distracted) is just stupid.Going to go with this. There is a huge difference between calling out someone who types like they are having a stroke, and calling out the single mistake in a well crafted post to make yourself feel better, or as an excuse to dismiss a point someone is making. If minor mistakes actually annoyed you that much, you wouldn't be here to complain about them, you'd be in jail after having been driving into a homicidal rage the first time you visited any forum on the internet. For the most part, it's a thinly veiled excuse to try and boost your own ego, or as a defense mechanism against another persons argument, which is also why every religious debate on this board has devolved into a dictionary battle. There is also no obligation to be rude about it. If you see someone consistently make the same mistake, then politely point out to them what the mistake is and how to fix it. If you come at the situation putting other people down, then we get to assume your doing it for yourself. If you do it politely, then we can assume your doing it for their benefit, which if you actually cared about the language would be your goal. If you become angry and correct people out of that anger, then you have become the very thing you hate. Another person on the internet who seemingly exists for the sole purpose of making our species look bad :lol: Oh, and even as one of the top posters here (especially given the age of the thread any many of the tops don't post here anymore), I think I stand as an unusually difficult person to annoy, at least on the web. If I could be annoyed by the concept of people who type like they are actively being murdered, or who would register on a forum to announce that they think people who play video games too much should be put to death, I would be a very miserable person. It's why I am such an advocate of understanding other perspectives on life. I don't have to view these as the acts of terrible people who are out to get us. I save all my dismay for politics :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezee Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The fact that i'm not on the list of people who've posted on this thread the most. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The fact you weren't even registered on TIF when the thread started. ;) | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm only fourth? That annoys me greatly. Apparently I need to rant more.Who's ranting? I just want to overtake Maleficus. And with this post, I have with a 151 score. successkid.jpg Next step Dax, and then baby doll, I'm coming for you Randox! | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm only fourth? That annoys me greatly. Apparently I need to rant more.Curses! My eeevil plan to assume Assume's position as the top poster on this thread had been foiled by his return! I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesset Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I prefer putting my punctuation outside of quotations because putting it inside makes things make less sense. Ex:Did he say "I was flying?"That implies that the quoted person asked if they were flying, which could be entirely false. Compared to:Did he say "I was flying"?Which makes it obvious that what he said was a statement, and you're asking about the statement. Punctuation inside quotation creates more room for misunderstanding, which is the polar opposite of what punctuation should do.Actually, with question marks and exclamation points, the punctuation goes in the most logical place. If you're quoting someone asking a question (i.e. "What the heck?") then you put the question mark inside the quotes. If you're asking a question about a quotation (i.e. Did he just say "butts"?) then the question mark goes outside. With periods and commas though, the punctuation always goes inside the quotation. It has to do with the fact that a question/exclamation mark change the meaning of a sentence significantly, and are much more obvious than a period. 1 My skin is finally getting softI'll scrub until the damn thing comes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decebal Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'll be the Miracle Kid. I'll overtake you all one day. I'll also take over the world, but I don't have a plan for that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirschen Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I am surprised I even make the top ten considering I hardly post here now. Surprised you make top three, Alg, considering you come off as rather laid back compared to most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezee Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The fact you weren't even registered on TIF when the thread started. ;) That annoys me too. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTanT Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 @Tyler: I never knew that, and that actually does make a lot more sense. @Thread: I'm only ~9 posts behind Surprise so I guess I'd better get complaining: How my University's internet will randomly boot you off for no good reason. The only difference between Hitler and the man next door who comes home and beats his kids every day is circumstance. The intent is the same-- to harm others.[hide=Tifers say the darndest things]I told her there was a secret method to doing it - and there is - but my once nimble and agile fingers were unable to perform because I was under the influence.I would laugh, not hate. I'm a male. :(Since when was Ireland an island...? :wall:I actually have a hobby of licking public toilet seats.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezee Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 My internet speed is like 2mb/s which annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 How my University's internet will randomly boot you off for no good reason.Oh come off it... we all know the reason. 2 | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTanT Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ^I can't come off it if it if they kee-Actually nevermind I have enough infractions without getting banned over a joke. 2 The only difference between Hitler and the man next door who comes home and beats his kids every day is circumstance. The intent is the same-- to harm others.[hide=Tifers say the darndest things]I told her there was a secret method to doing it - and there is - but my once nimble and agile fingers were unable to perform because I was under the influence.I would laugh, not hate. I'm a male. :(Since when was Ireland an island...? :wall:I actually have a hobby of licking public toilet seats.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estonian dude Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I am not on that list and I am not surprised. I am really hard to annoy with something... And I tend to behave, which is why I have zero warning points here... I haven't actually seen anyone posting something worth a warning post here in the forums. I am annoyed by that... So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends. RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.I strike out every other week.Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.Randox pretty much stays rational.Etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesset Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I am not on that list and I am not surprised. I am really hard to annoy with something... And I tend to behave, which is why I have zero warning points here... I haven't actually seen anyone posting something worth a warning post here in the forums. I am annoyed by that...The mods clean that stuff up as soon as they find it. I'm pretty sure anything I've ever been warned for has been removed. My skin is finally getting softI'll scrub until the damn thing comes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 ^I can't come off it if it if they kee-Actually nevermind I have enough infractions without getting banned over a joke.That depends on the joke, I think... I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTanT Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yeah mods delete posts (or more accurately move them to the secret mod-zone of illegal posts, heroin, and strippers) after they send warnings. And I figure it's better to just let your imaginations run with it, since it was a lame joke anyways. The only difference between Hitler and the man next door who comes home and beats his kids every day is circumstance. The intent is the same-- to harm others.[hide=Tifers say the darndest things]I told her there was a secret method to doing it - and there is - but my once nimble and agile fingers were unable to perform because I was under the influence.I would laugh, not hate. I'm a male. :(Since when was Ireland an island...? :wall:I actually have a hobby of licking public toilet seats.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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