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I have no idea which chaotic weapon to choose out of the maul, longsword and rapier.

 

I like training slayer, killing tds and going to castle/clan wars.

 

Which weapon do you think I should pick suiting my preferences, or just in general?

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I have no idea which chaotic weapon to choose out of the maul, longsword and rapier.

 

I like training slayer, killing tds and going to castle/clan wars.

 

Which weapon do you think I should pick suiting my preferences, or just in general?

rapier is great for slayer, good for td/castle wars

longsword is comparable, and sometimes inferior to a whip for slayer on most kuradal tasks

but great for td/castle wars

 

maul is great for td's, maybe castle wars

pretty useless for slayer

 

i'd say get a rapier first, it's the most versatile for you

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Mmmm, how about maul on fiends ? Is it such slow that make if less effective than any gs ?

Chaotic maul is superior to both godswords and zamorakian spears @ waterfiends, ignoring prayer bonus of course.

 

if you were to assume that waterfiends had 0 defence (which they clearly do not), then the zamorakian spear's DPS would only be 1.1% higher

but clearly the chaotic maul has much better accuracy, so there is no contest.

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The choice of weapon to get actually depends on what you want in my opinion. If you opt for speed, rapier is the way to go. I chose to go for higher accuracy rather than speed, so I went for the longsword. As for maul, I can safely say that it's not suited for slayer, but it'll be good in PvP situations. But I'll say that the main reason why I chose the longsword over the rapier was that I took into consideration Mithril Dragon tasks from the masters, and I'll gladly use a defender along with super antifires, so the higher stab accuracy meant a slight difference for me, but likewise rapier is in a way faster than the longsword, just that it's not as accurate compared to the longsword.

 

So to sum it up, it's more of a choice of a higher accuracy or higher speed for you.

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The choice of weapon to get actually depends on what you want in my opinion. If you opt for speed, rapier is the way to go. I chose to go for higher accuracy rather than speed, so I went for the longsword. As for maul, I can safely say that it's not suited for slayer, but it'll be good in PvP situations. But I'll say that the main reason why I chose the longsword over the rapier was that I took into consideration Mithril Dragon tasks from the masters, and I'll gladly use a defender along with super antifires, so the higher stab accuracy meant a slight difference for me, but likewise rapier is in a way faster than the longsword, just that it's not as accurate compared to the longsword.

 

So to sum it up, it's more of a choice of a higher accuracy or higher speed for you.

Tbh, the rapier completely destroys miths and KBD. And on most other tasks you'll be 2-3 hitting just about every monster...

 

LS might be better for bosses though, and I've only tested rapier at sara GWD (it sucked), so I can't really say much about that.

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The choice of weapon to get actually depends on what you want in my opinion. If you opt for speed, rapier is the way to go. I chose to go for higher accuracy rather than speed, so I went for the longsword. As for maul, I can safely say that it's not suited for slayer, but it'll be good in PvP situations. But I'll say that the main reason why I chose the longsword over the rapier was that I took into consideration Mithril Dragon tasks from the masters, and I'll gladly use a defender along with super antifires, so the higher stab accuracy meant a slight difference for me, but likewise rapier is in a way faster than the longsword, just that it's not as accurate compared to the longsword.

 

So to sum it up, it's more of a choice of a higher accuracy or higher speed for you.

Tbh, the rapier completely destroys miths and KBD. And on most other tasks you'll be 2-3 hitting just about every monster...

 

LS might be better for bosses though, and I've only tested rapier at sara GWD (it sucked), so I can't really say much about that.

 

Hmm I've yet to really witness that.. I might test with a rapier after I get my chaotic shield I suppose :P

 

Edit: Was it with a rune defender or was it with just a DFS alone? I'm pretty interested to find out if rapier + DFS is sufficient for Miths.

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The choice of weapon to get actually depends on what you want in my opinion. If you opt for speed, rapier is the way to go. I chose to go for higher accuracy rather than speed, so I went for the longsword. As for maul, I can safely say that it's not suited for slayer, but it'll be good in PvP situations. But I'll say that the main reason why I chose the longsword over the rapier was that I took into consideration Mithril Dragon tasks from the masters, and I'll gladly use a defender along with super antifires, so the higher stab accuracy meant a slight difference for me, but likewise rapier is in a way faster than the longsword, just that it's not as accurate compared to the longsword.

 

So to sum it up, it's more of a choice of a higher accuracy or higher speed for you.

Tbh, the rapier completely destroys miths and KBD. And on most other tasks you'll be 2-3 hitting just about every monster...

 

LS might be better for bosses though, and I've only tested rapier at sara GWD (it sucked), so I can't really say much about that.

 

Hmm I've yet to really witness that.. I might test with a rapier after I get my chaotic shield I suppose :P

 

Edit: Was it with a rune defender or was it with just a DFS alone? I'm pretty interested to find out if rapier + DFS is sufficient for Miths.

 

before i got antifire pots, i did miths with leaf sword and anti d sheild. with slay helm my hit rare was "pretty good" rapier will prob do great, and longsword will tear them apart.

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Edit: Was it with a rune defender or was it with just a DFS alone? I'm pretty interested to find out if rapier + DFS is sufficient for Miths.

Defender, I sold my DFS years ago. I didn't even need any food when switching between SS and prot mage, with only ~250 melee def.

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My vote is rapier. The way I think of it is this: Rapier replaces whip and z spear (aside from corp/wfs), longsword and maul replace godsword. Which do I use more? Whip.

 

before i got antifire pots, i did miths with leaf sword and anti d sheild. with slay helm my hit rare was "pretty good" rapier will prob do great, and longsword will tear them apart.

Just clarifying: Rapier has superior stab bonus to Longsword.

 

EDIT: Disregard that, I suck [roosters].

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My vote is rapier. The way I think of it is this: Rapier replaces whip and z spear (aside from corp/wfs), longsword and maul replace godsword. Which do I use more? Whip.

 

before i got antifire pots, i did miths with leaf sword and anti d sheild. with slay helm my hit rare was "pretty good" rapier will prob do great, and longsword will tear them apart.

Just clarifying: Rapier has superior stab bonus to Longsword.

No, it doesn't. Longsword has slightly higher stab bonus, but the rapier's speed makes it better.

 

OT: The longsword isn't the best at anything, which is why I think it's the least valuable of the three weapons. The rapier is by far the best slaying weapon and it is the best weapon for killing dragons. The rapier is also arguably the best PKing weapon, since whips are often regarded as better than godswords due to their superior DPS and the rapier is much more powerful than a whip. The maul is also extremely effective when PKing, especially if you combine it with a granite maul for special attacks. The maul also excels at waterfiends, as mentioned, and at team bosses because of its high accuracy (you usually only get one or two attacks when anti-crashing at GWD, so you want it to be as high as possible). The maul is also the best normal melee weapon for TDs (provided you do not have a steel titan or ely/divine SS) due to their 300 damage limit prior to switching prayers. The long is way above average in all categories, but it's not "the best" at anything. In short, I'd recommend the rapier first and then the maul.

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What I'm really interested to know is how the rapier performs relative to the longsword at melee bosses, with a shield. (Bandos, zammy, kq, dks, kbd)

Haven't seen many videos or data from people killing bosses with the rapier. I originally wanted the longsword for the boss killing ability, but I haven't really seen any conclusions that it is any better than rapier for bosses. I now use whip for every boss, so an improved whip seems like it might be preferable to a slower longsword (or not, hard to tell). The fact that the rapier owns for slayer is also very nice...

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hmm this is a hard decision.

 

i was thinking a mual myself....i dont mind using whip for slayer as it is cheaper and i make alot of my money at tds (using claws for spec and gs when not using claws) based on this data i assumed the chatoic maul would be perfect for me but i have heard that it is incredibly inacurate and gs are better?

 

not sure ill prolyl get the maul to test anyways...as for rapier vs longsword i would personally get the longsword from thefriends ive talked to and vids iv watched the rapier albeit good at pking and slaying just sucks at boss slaying compared to the longsword

 

 

 

anyways any 1 think i should go with maul for my <3 of tds? (or wait to just claw spec pot and overload?)

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What I'm really interested to know is how the rapier performs relative to the longsword at melee bosses, with a shield. (Bandos, zammy, kq, dks, kbd)

Haven't seen many videos or data from people killing bosses with the rapier. I originally wanted the longsword for the boss killing ability, but I haven't really seen any conclusions that it is any better than rapier for bosses. I now use whip for every boss, so an improved whip seems like it might be preferable to a slower longsword (or not, hard to tell). The fact that the rapier owns for slayer is also very nice...

Was thinking exactly the same. I'm inclined to think that rapier is best on everyting solo.

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might aswell just keep using a whip if you are going to get a rapier. rapier can only hit like ~5 dmg more and costs 200k/combat hours. imo that slight accuracy and 5 dmg+ isnt worth the 200k/h. might aswell get a longsword since it's more accurate and hits ~5 more than rapier. longsword is probably better than rapier in too pvm and pvp but not slayer.

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might aswell just keep using a whip if you are going to get a rapier. rapier can only hit like ~5 dmg more and costs 200k/combat hours. imo that slight accuracy and 5 dmg+ isnt worth the 200k/h. might aswell get a longsword since it's more accurate and hits ~5 more than rapier. longsword is probably better than rapier in too pvm and pvp but not slayer.

Not true, it hits much higher then whip and is far more accurate. For drags, a ZS doesn't even come close. LS is only good for bosses, but the rapier is better for pretty much everything else. It's been said many times that it doesn't cost 200k/hr to use. Don't make up info.

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And 50 lp per hit extra will speed up slayer a lot

 

it adds to your max not every hit...

 

might aswell just keep using a whip if you are going to get a rapier. rapier can only hit like ~5 dmg more and costs 200k/combat hours. imo that slight accuracy and 5 dmg+ isnt worth the 200k/h. might aswell get a longsword since it's more accurate and hits ~5 more than rapier. longsword is probably better than rapier in too pvm and pvp but not slayer.

Not true, it hits much higher then whip and is far more accurate. For drags, a ZS doesn't even come close. LS is only good for bosses, but the rapier is better for pretty much everything else. It's been said many times that it doesn't cost 200k/hr to use. Don't make up info.

 

yeah i said combat hours the first time and was too lazy to say it the 2nd time.

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And 50 lp per hit extra will speed up slayer a lot

 

it adds to your max not every hit...

 

might aswell just keep using a whip if you are going to get a rapier. rapier can only hit like ~5 dmg more and costs 200k/combat hours. imo that slight accuracy and 5 dmg+ isnt worth the 200k/h. might aswell get a longsword since it's more accurate and hits ~5 more than rapier. longsword is probably better than rapier in too pvm and pvp but not slayer.

Not true, it hits much higher then whip and is far more accurate. For drags, a ZS doesn't even come close. LS is only good for bosses, but the rapier is better for pretty much everything else. It's been said many times that it doesn't cost 200k/hr to use. Don't make up info.

 

yeah i said combat hours the first time and was too lazy to say it the 2nd time.

It's less then 100k/hr of continuous combat. And the difference in kill speed between rapier and whip is definitely noticeable.
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Still would love to see some info about rapier at bosses. evil_eye, have you done any boss killing with yours?

Only tried sara gwd, couldn't really hit. Haven't tried any others since I've been dc'ing a lot lately.

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