Castle Wars Improvements - Faithful Shield

[teresa412009]

You realize .. they wouldn't make the page http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/melee_castle_wars_items if there wasn't going to be any ranged/mage equipment .. they would just make it castle_wars_items ..

yeah, you might right

[RUNESCAPEfantasy]

lul wish i wasnt makeing a tank now. i wont be training melee much so halo wont be helpful

[Tim]

I'll re-time it with a stole and post it in a moment.

 

Okay, so I mis-calcd before.

 

from 70-0 In this gear (which Ill post in a sec) it took: 4.29"46

 

[PhaperPlane]

+43 Prayer?! :blink: *Jaw Drops*

[Nukearcher]

I'll re-time it with a stole and post it in a moment.

 

Okay, so I mis-calcd before.

 

from 70-0 In this gear (which Ill post in a sec) it took: 4.29"46

 

get white knight boots for +1 more pray :P

 

EDIT: dragon mace gives +5 more too

[Saradomin_Mage]

I'll re-time it with a stole and post it in a moment.

 

Okay, so I mis-calcd before.

 

from 70-0 In this gear (which Ill post in a sec) it took: 4.29"46

 

get white knight boots for +1 more pray :P

 

EDIT: dragon mace gives +5 more too

White gloves for another 1, and I think void mace is a 6 xD

[Huge Noob]

I might have to try these things out. Makes me glad I had 1,300ish tickets before the update. :P

[demby123]

lul wish i wasnt makeing a tank now. i wont be training melee much so halo wont be helpful

works for range/mage prayers too now :thumbup:

[RUNESCAPEfantasy]

yay <333

[totalpwnage]

The fact that this is a 1 def shield/halo is pretty crazy. Pures are getting more and more defensive stuff available to them. Though I think farseer kite will change to 40 def since its a rune kite.

 

I mean, you've got the full slayer helm which can be used at 10 def (regular slayer helm was used for a long time) and now you have a farseer kite which is 1 def... halo thats 1 def...

The slayer helm is very popular among the 10+ def pures because its a helm of neitiznot with no pray bonus, and with the full slayer helmet, its even better.

 

However not many pures are gonna spend the 75-125 hours for the halo/shield when you can get 99 str in that time and probably have a way to make money as well. Unless they really want to. Seems like something that might end up being botted like SW >.> And you're not getting any money, just a bit of experience.. unlike getting the full slayer helm. On top of that the mage negatives and stuff...

 

Although, if you removed the mage negatives and stuff, it'd basicallty be a spirit shield.

[Tact]

I did some testing to see how fast 20 prayer points would drain using different equipment and prayer bonuses. All tests were done with turmoil, but I imagine that it's comparable or translatable to piety and other prayers or curses.

 

Nothing equipped: 40.53 seconds

Only halo equipped: 59.13 seconds

45.9% improvement in time

 

Full proselyte (helm, chest, legs), SW cape, fury, blessed spirit shield, barrows gloves, dragon boots: 89.72 seconds [+37 prayer bonus]

Same as above but with helm replaced with halo: 124.18 seconds [+33 prayer bonus]

38.4% improvement in time

 

Full Verac's (helm, chest, legs), SW cape, god stole, godsword, barrows gloves, dragon boots: 97.75 seconds [+42 prayer bonus, ~260 melee defense bonuses]

Same as above but with helm replaced with halo: 137.19 seconds [+39 prayer bonus, ~220 melee defense bonuses]

40.3% improvement in time

 

The difference is larger at higher prayer bonuses due to the diminishing marginal effects of each additional point of prayer bonus. The halo partially bypasses that effect by having a set effect that stacks upon existing bonuses.

[gypsyeater]

So its better to have a halo without any prayer boosing gear equiped?

[urb]

So its better to have a halo without any prayer boosing gear equiped?

No, it's a percentage of improvement over no gear. With a higher prayer bonus it will show less improvement but have the same effect.

[Tact]

So its better to have a halo without any prayer boosing gear equiped?

It's an improvement over the existing equipment. A halo will further slow your prayer drain rate on top of any prayer bonuses you may have.

 

I designed the 2nd trial set to reflect a situation where prayer bonus is important (in cases where you're using a protection prayer), but without the use of expensive equipment. The BSS can be replaced with a rune defender or other shield at the cost of a few prayer points. The 3rd trial is a more expensive set up that offers greater defensive bonuses that might be used while tanking and using piety or turmoil.

 

As you can see, the halo offers a substantial improvement in the amount of time that turmoil lasts. The downside is that the halo is moderately pricey at 300 tickets to buy. In addition, it would most likely not be one of the 3 items you kept on death and would therefore not be appropriate under risky combat situations. I haven't thought of any specific situation you'd use one in besides armored zombies.

 

Another person did point out that halos have the highest magic defense of any helmet. Maybe they could help while camping spiritual mages (since they also count as a god item)?

[Troacctid]

Seems like the best helmet for camping waterfiends. You don't need defense besides magic defense, and if you aren't praying, you're probably doing it wrong.

 

Granzi, how do they compare with Turmoil, Soul Split, and Berserker simultaneously? Since the halo only works on Turmoil and not the others, that could be a significant issue.

[Tact]

Seems like the best helmet for camping waterfiends. You don't need defense besides magic defense, and if you aren't praying, you're probably doing it wrong.

 

Granzi, how do they compare with Turmoil, Soul Split, and Berserker simultaneously? Since the halo only works on Turmoil and not the others, that could be a significant issue.

I hadn't thought of waterfiends. Good idea.

 

Under the same 3 equipment set ups as before but with 3 prayers, I obtained these results under further testing:

 

Nothing: 20.53 seconds

Only halo: 24.55 seconds

19.6% improvement in time

 

Proselyte: 44.06 seconds

With halo: 48.24 seconds

9.5% improvement in time

 

Verac's: 46.46 seconds

With halo: 53.50 seconds

15.1% improvement in time

 

The differences are much smaller, but using the halo is still noticeably superior. Of the two new prayers introduced in this second batch of trials, soul split is a larger drain than berserker. Under most circumstances, you probably won't have it activated the entire time, and it's also possible to minimize that effect by prayer flashing.

[demby123]

The fact that this is a 1 def shield/halo is pretty crazy. Pures are getting more and more defensive stuff available to them. Though I think farseer kite will change to 40 def since its a rune kite.

 

I mean, you've got the full slayer helm which can be used at 10 def (regular slayer helm was used for a long time) and now you have a farseer kite which is 1 def... halo thats 1 def...

The slayer helm is very popular among the 10+ def pures because its a helm of neitiznot with no pray bonus, and with the full slayer helmet, its even better.

It wouldn't make much of a difference. 1 def pures would get owned in barrows if it were possible, because they're still 1 def.These could increase 1 deffer's def enough to tank and train on more monsters than usual such as hill giants and the like. I wonder how long superhuman strength would last with a zamorak halo and monk robes. :smile:

[Slayer_Jesse]

Now, if we could absorb halos into our slay helms, we would really have something!

 

(SLAYER HELMET WILL CONSUME ALL OTHER HELMETS! IT IS ALL POWERFUL! AHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!)

[demby123]

I knew this would happen....

[Den]

Knew they would fix that eventualy :P

[RUNESCAPEfantasy]

^ lol good fight chokexx

[UserOnRS]

What would have happened if you had it equipped and had no free inventory space?

 

Did it automatically unequip itself? It seems so because of the chatbox.

[demby123]

as long as halos are still 1 def im not sore... :thumbsup: