Alg Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 So you go on about how Pass Scamming is more legitimate than Offensive Language and then suddenly I'm not reading what you are saying after proving while its not? I'm not saying reporting offensive language is yet another factor. I'm saying someone who reports for it isn't always just a wannabe mod.And for that you're right. I've talking about actual wannabe-mods though, that go around reporting as frequently as they can for even the most minor infraction instead of playing the game. These are the people that are going to have the highest number of reports. And they're the people that are least likely to actually do the job once they actually get there. Funny thing about that, if you actually want to be a mod, chances are you're in it for the status or so you can mute people that bug you. And after a few restatements of this you STILL do not understand what I am saying. Progress indeed. At least we can agree that progress was made... :grin: 22-23 people total. Thats the total number which could be part of this. Do you think Jagex devoted ~5% of their employees to this 10 hours a day? No. They can't. While your method does cut a chunk out of the playerbase. You leave upwards of a million accounts. I would say picking out people from that is random. Although it does not sound good, it is better to have people that actually do their job. Why Mod someone who would never use the report button or is too nice to mute people? Whats the point?Of course they aren't going to devote that many people to this for that long. As I said earlier though, there's no rush in this. Names are not going to pile up and overwhelm them.Again, the people who are least likely to do the job are the ones that actively seek modship. As clear as the knowledge base is, there are quite a few people who believe that we get paid and/or can be promoted to j-mods. A reason to mod people who are "too nice to mute people" is that they are too nice to mute people nice. They're the ones that people end up going to if they have problems with something. Because they stand out more than normal players, they're easier for someone to find if they need to. They're the ones that are going to tell some accidental rulebreaker that he's breaking the rules instead of reporting him for it. Clear to you I don't know how the system work. Don't give me this crap. Whats your argument? Are you just going to flat out deny everything I say? How the hell can you argue that someone does not need a significant amount of reports? Yes, you drone on and on about how it isn't the only factor. I GIVE YOU THAT YOU WIN GG GOOD DUEL YES OK YOU WIN. Then you misquote me twice. First you say I made up or know of a magic number. Now then you base your entire argument on how password scamming>offensive language reports. After that somehow I am the one now listening to you. For the middle paragraphs nothing came out of it because you were too stubborn picking out small details and debating that. LOOK at the progression. You never answered one tough question. Instead you picked apart a sentence and defined "more" as a number. EVERY singe question for me HAS been answered. If you do not feel I have answered ANYTHING at ALL quote it to me and I will do so immediately. The argument goes in circles because YOU IGNORE the BULK of my argument and pick apart tiny tiny details. Why do we even need this 22 people number? You manage to base this entire paragraph on the 1-2 number I gave as an example. I'd think the same way that I'm expected to prove that reports are not a factor at all when the evidence suggests that they are. I expect people who claim that you need lots of reports to be a mod to actually prove it, because my own observations have said otherwise. I based the paragraph on reports because you questioned it. If you've forgotten my original example was a player with 5 offensive language reports for the word "damn" vs. a player with one password scamming report. You made a statement, I attempted to explain my example, and it spiraled out of control from there. The 22 people number was there because I felt like I had made up enough numbers. Perhaps if the focus wasn't shifted to how practical each example would be...I made the statement about you ignoring my posts because that's what I had been noticing. You continually expected me to prove that reports were not a factor at all after I had said that I wasn't arguing about that. All of the statement I make about the selection process are things I've pieced together myself. They have not come out and said "this is how we pick mods", if they did people would still say that they're lying to get people to be nicer. Which puts me in an interesting position, because I always end up having to defend a position that has just been made undefendable by people saying "no they really mean this", much like you did. So sad. You are a prime example of the "Stereotypical" mod. Even you are not clear on your facts. Kindness and helpfulness? Flame an entire debate and then leave after you have nothing left to say. I'm still here, actually. I don't leave things unfinished. At least not things like this :lol:Not sure if you will be, though. Again, I act this way in debates because every other debate about this has had players who spout the same [cabbage] and acting offended when I call it that. I guess this is partly my fault too. I should never had even started this crap. Every single Mod with a few exceptions I have met are like you. Waste of my time trying to change something like this.Likewise, most players I've met in these debates have been like you. Nobody in these debates ever proves all of these stereotypes that they call fact. I always take this side because in the almost five years I've been a mod I've never seen anything close to the stereotype. It's always people who outright don't know mods that end up making these statements, the last of which admitted that he hadn't so much as seen any in years. It's always "all mods are bad blahblahblah... Except the ones I know". At least this time I didn't have to defend my personality and reputation as much. The posts are much shorter too, so progress was made :lol: I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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