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The thing is with pures, is that someone with far lower stats WILL kill you in one or two hits.

Your newly gained defence levels are the start of them taking three or four hits to kill you. :) Or if you spend just half the time you took for you to get 99 str and attack and got 99 defence, you'd be level 126, and if you trained summoning, even higher. And you wouldn't die so much.

 

I'm sorry, but you have NO idea what you're talking about.

 

He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.


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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

No he doesnt. Even if you did die in one or two hits (that never happens, least of all on lower levels), at least people will be willing to fight you, no one wants to fight that level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

For the purposes of low level pking, having high defence is generally pretty stupid because most people you fight will just run (believe me, ive tried). If you want kills, being a pure is the way to go.

 

*Note: Plus, werent you done trolling pure threads?

 

We get that you hate pures (despite the fact that they dont harm you in any way whatsoever), but theres no need to be a [bleep] about it and troll every pure thread you see.


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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

And pures are not stupid, balanced stats are terrible for pvp worlds/bh up untill your around 120+ combat. And even then at that point everyone has nearly equal stats. making it more of a money vs money fight.

 

Pures limit themselves by sacrificing defence and are generally terrible at boss hunting,slaying, and other things balanced mains are good at.

Mains limit themselves by sacrificing offensive stats and are terrible at bh/pvp.

 

 

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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

 

Lol nah in edge.

 

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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

And pures are not stupid, balanced stats are terrible for pvp worlds/bh up untill your around 120+ combat. And even then at that point everyone has nearly equal stats. making it more of a money vs money fight.

 

Pures limit themselves by sacrificing defence and are generally terrible at boss hunting,slaying, and other things balanced mains are good at.

Mains limit themselves by sacrificing offensive stats and are terrible at bh/pvp.

 

 

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Excellent point, except pures are a result of defense being underpowered.

 

If defense worked properly a level 40 balanced player should be equal to a level 40 pure.

 

Good solution change defense to work as a mitigation skill (hits hit less hard at higher defense) rather then dodge and defense will be useful in low level as well as high level pvp.

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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

And pures are not stupid, balanced stats are terrible for pvp worlds/bh up untill your around 120+ combat. And even then at that point everyone has nearly equal stats. making it more of a money vs money fight.

 

Pures limit themselves by sacrificing defence and are generally terrible at boss hunting,slaying, and other things balanced mains are good at.

Mains limit themselves by sacrificing offensive stats and are terrible at bh/pvp.

 

 

drevilwerenotsodifferen.jpg

 

 

Excellent point, except pures are a result of defense being underpowered.

 

If defense worked properly a level 40 balanced player should be equal to a level 40 pure.

 

Good solution change defense to work as a mitigation skill (hits hit less hard at higher defense) rather then dodge and defense will be useful in low level as well as high level pvp.

It would be a pretty balanced update , but the thing that sets pure pking apart from main pking is that there are so many different builds with many styles of fighting, and the fact that pure pking is based more on the fighting rather than risk. its the main reason people make pures.

 

If defense were to be damage reducing it would be tanks vs more tanks vs more tanks, and that would get stale. If anything, such changes should be applied to constitution, as that's the direct counter to strength. Problem is, pures would be almost untouchable.


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How did the Topic Creator even manage that? I train my pure through Dungeoneering and Switching from Rapid Longbow to Smash Maul has never had a defence problem for me. (Even though I'm 2 defence due to Blood Runs Deep)


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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

And pures are not stupid, balanced stats are terrible for pvp worlds/bh up untill your around 120+ combat. And even then at that point everyone has nearly equal stats. making it more of a money vs money fight.

 

Pures limit themselves by sacrificing defence and are generally terrible at boss hunting,slaying, and other things balanced mains are good at.

Mains limit themselves by sacrificing offensive stats and are terrible at bh/pvp.

 

 

drevilwerenotsodifferen.jpg

 

 

Excellent point, except pures are a result of defense being underpowered.

 

If defense worked properly a level 40 balanced player should be equal to a level 40 pure.

 

Good solution change defense to work as a mitigation skill (hits hit less hard at higher defense) rather then dodge and defense will be useful in low level as well as high level pvp.

It would be a pretty balanced update , but the thing that sets pure pking apart from main pking is that there are so many different builds with many styles of fighting, and the fact that pure pking is based more on the fighting rather than risk. its the main reason people make pures.

 

If defense were to be damage reducing it would be tanks vs more tanks vs more tanks, and that would get stale. If anything, such changes should be applied to constitution, as that's the direct counter to strength. Problem is, pures would be almost untouchable.

 

Lets look at it this way

 

Say average level 40 has a max hit of 60 (meleeing) and level 40 pure (str pure) has a max hit of 160.

 

If defense was mitigation, the average level 40 would hit near constant 60's. While the str pure would hit 100's or 80's, he still has the ability to miss if his attack level is low however so they would be about even.

 

Since both parties are going to be hitting fairly often it makes the fight a bit more interesting by having constant damage. However KO's would be pretty rare like this. But that allows Jagex to add in Super weapons, as it stands now theres too many things in near KO range. If Jagex changed defense we could have room for better weapons.

 

 

Its the change that needs to be done, but it obviously would be very unpopular and change runescape as we know it. But its the only way to get rid of pures (to those against them), allow for combat skills to 120 (defense can handle the extra damage being delt), and have room to throw in new super weapons.

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Since both parties are going to be hitting fairly often it makes the fight a bit more interesting by having constant damage. However KO's would be pretty rare like this. But that allows Jagex to add in Super weapons, as it stands now theres too many things in near KO range. If Jagex changed defense we could have room for better weapons.

 

If f2p pking gets any more stale i would slash my wrists.

 

Its the change that needs to be done, but it obviously would be very unpopular and change runescape as we know it. But its the only way to get rid of pures (to those against them), allow for combat skills to 120 (defense can handle the extra damage being delt), and have room to throw in new super weapons.

 

Why would you want to get rid of pures?

 

To be perfectly honest, they are already pretty underpowered. Only being superior at low levels, at mid levels defence already triumphs outside the random lucky KO, and the only reason every low - mid level PKer is a pure is because everyone runs from people with defence. Because typically they are too powerful.

 

At high levels, pures may as well be useless. Its pathetic how weak they are. Infact because of lack of strength bonus they often hit around the same damage, but far less often than the mains.


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Pure's seem really useless to me. But that's probably because I don't PVP. >.>


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He does, he's making a point that pures are stupid and it's better to just be balanced.

 

level 60 with 50 def, who safes at 90% health and has melee prayer on constantly.

 

Is this out deep? if so thats a dream come true.

And pures are not stupid, balanced stats are terrible for pvp worlds/bh up untill your around 120+ combat. And even then at that point everyone has nearly equal stats. making it more of a money vs money fight.

 

Pures limit themselves by sacrificing defence and are generally terrible at boss hunting,slaying, and other things balanced mains are good at.

Mains limit themselves by sacrificing offensive stats and are terrible at bh/pvp.

 

 

drevilwerenotsodifferen.jpg

 

 

Excellent point, except pures are a result of defense being underpowered.

 

If defense worked properly a level 40 balanced player should be equal to a level 40 pure.

 

Good solution change defense to work as a mitigation skill (hits hit less hard at higher defense) rather then dodge and defense will be useful in low level as well as high level pvp.

It would be a pretty balanced update , but the thing that sets pure pking apart from main pking is that there are so many different builds with many styles of fighting, and the fact that pure pking is based more on the fighting rather than risk. its the main reason people make pures.

 

If defense were to be damage reducing it would be tanks vs more tanks vs more tanks, and that would get stale. If anything, such changes should be applied to constitution, as that's the direct counter to strength. Problem is, pures would be almost untouchable.

 

Lets look at it this way

 

Say average level 40 has a max hit of 60 (meleeing) and level 40 pure (str pure) has a max hit of 160.

 

If defense was mitigation, the average level 40 would hit near constant 60's. While the str pure would hit 100's or 80's, he still has the ability to miss if his attack level is low however so they would be about even.

 

Since both parties are going to be hitting fairly often it makes the fight a bit more interesting by having constant damage. However KO's would be pretty rare like this. But that allows Jagex to add in Super weapons, as it stands now theres too many things in near KO range. If Jagex changed defense we could have room for better weapons.

 

 

Its the change that needs to be done, but it obviously would be very unpopular and change runescape as we know it. But its the only way to get rid of pures (to those against them), allow for combat skills to 120 (defense can handle the extra damage being delt), and have room to throw in new super weapons.

 

 

I can tell you've never pked before. Pures are severely underpowered. You might have had a case in early 2005 for defence being underpowered, but not anymore.


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Yea.

 

Pures have only ever been overpowered years ago.

 

Nowadays, they are pretty much OP from level 1-30, slightly OP from 40-60, more than balanced from 60-70'ish, and anything from 70 onwards is underpowered, and 80, i honestly don't know how pures PK at 80...


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Yea.

 

Pures have only ever been overpowered years ago.

 

Nowadays, they are pretty much OP from level 1-30, slightly OP from 40-60, more than balanced from 60-70'ish, and anything from 70 onwards is underpowered, and 80, i honestly don't know how pures PK at 80...

 

its not that hard tbh...


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Well, im not level 80 myself, but from what ive seen, its a 1/10 chance of hit kind of thing.

 

im 78, and hitting is fine - ranged is accurate enough - just leave the scimmy in the bank :P


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Well, im not level 80 myself, but from what ive seen, its a 1/10 chance of hit kind of thing.

 

im 78, and hitting is fine - ranged is accurate enough - just leave the scimmy in the bank :P

exactly, use ranged and mage for people with armor and you'll be fine.

Pures still get their butts kicked when they're near maxed though.


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Hopefully they never get maxed though :).

 

im 78, and hitting is fine - ranged is accurate enough - just leave the scimmy in the bank :P

 

Thats good. I've always been scared of having to eventually get defence to compete, don't like defence :)


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Well, im not level 80 myself, but from what ive seen, its a 1/10 chance of hit kind of thing.

 

im 78, and hitting is fine - ranged is accurate enough - just leave the scimmy in the bank :P

exactly, use ranged and mage for people with armor and you'll be fine.

Pures still get their butts kicked when they're near maxed though.

 

Depends on what you mean by maxed.


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what do YOU mean by maxed?


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what do YOU mean by maxed?


'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC

 

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what do YOU mean by maxed?


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Arrr, there be triple posts in the waters of this topic, matey.

 

 

 

 

I just posted on the other rant about how I do not care about grammar, but that "i" in Dungeoneering in the title makes me vent frustration into our world.


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Oops soz 3g lag lulz


'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC

 

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"Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler"

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Honestly don't get why pures get 99 attack.

 

Bringing yourself up to barrow pure range doesn't seem all that smart.


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