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This is why you don't have sex. Its pointless and gives you nothing but trouble. Abinistence ftw.


Stop trying to mask the fact that you can't get none! :shame:

On topic: The word "rape" is thrown around an awful lot nowadays. If he lied and told her he was a millionaire, then she had sex with him because of that, would that be considered rape? Like someone said earlier, it's a real slap in the face to people who actually were raped.

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Israel... It is in consistency with you other actions. And one asks how does one judge pertain to the whole of Israel. Weeeell, you see that judge is a judicial representative and decision maker, appointed by Israel, they're policy is an extension of Israel's policy.
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Amazing. Surely there's an appeals court in Israel that "Daniel" can have this case referred to where some more sensible judges will overturn this stupid, prejudiced woman's take on the law?

The judge's summing up statement is staggering in its high-mindedness and presumption:

Although conceding that the sex was consensual, district court judge Tzvi Segal concluded that the law had a duty to protect women from "smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price"
"If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have co-operated," Mrs Segal said as she delivered her verdict.


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Israel... It is in consistency with you other actions. And one asks how does one judge pertain to the whole of Israel. Weeeell, you see that judge is a judicial representative and decision maker, appointed by Israel, they're policy is an extension of Israel's policy.


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Would you say any of these are an extension of USA's policy?

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Israel... It is in consistency with you other actions. And one asks how does one judge pertain to the whole of Israel. Weeeell, you see that judge is a judicial representative and decision maker, appointed by Israel, they're policy is an extension of Israel's policy.


http://public.findla...on-history.html

Would you say any of these are an extension of USA's policy?

In context of the time the case occurred, yes. I'm sure there were many kangaroo courts post Civil War just to convict blacks regardless of being actually guilty, and that reflected a general Southern mindset towards blacks at the time. Legislation may be written, but the judges are those who interpret the application. They put the finishing touches on legal policy.
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Love (as in sex) knows only one language and it was consensual.
this is a racist action deployed by Israel. Not the guys fault she believed in his lies
she deserved it (karma)

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Racist Zionism...what else needs to be said?


Zionism also upholds fascist Capitalist doctrine because Zionist Jews want to create large corporations and monopolies across globe. They steal Palestinian children in the dead of night for slavery in factories.

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Uh, sorry, but this is very antisemitic, Serephurus. I hope this post isn't serious, and I'd hope that you'd apologize for such racist and crass remarks if it was.

Also, on the story at hand, I also blame the judge more than the girl. I can understand why this woman reacted the way she did, being lied to and manipulated into sleeping with someone is pretty [cabbage]ty. And the guy is a jerk for doing that. But being a jerk =/= being a rapist and deserving of a conviction. What bothers me the most is that the judge handed out this sentence. It is completely [bleep]ed up. No way could this be construed as rape. I know some countries have "fraud" or "misrepresentation" penalties in situations like this, but I have only seen it used in marital contexts where the husband gets married by lying to the wife. The only time I've seen anything so close is when a twin brother lied to his brother's drunk girlfriend that he was his brother and had sex with her. I think he got charged with rape, but I never knew the outcome of it.

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This is why you don't have sex. Its pointless and gives you nothing but trouble. Abinistence ftw.

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Racist Zionism...what else needs to be said?


Zionism also upholds fascist Capitalist doctrine because Zionist Jews want to create large corporations and monopolies across globe. They steal Palestinian children in the dead of night for slavery in factories.

Капиталисты зла.

Communism is the only hope to unite human race and end racial hatred.


Uh, sorry, but this is very antisemitic, Serephurus. I hope this post isn't serious, and I'd hope that you'd apologize for such racist and crass remarks if it was.

Also, on the story at hand, I also blame the judge more than the girl. I can understand why this woman reacted the way she did, being lied to and manipulated into sleeping with someone is pretty [cabbage]ty. And the guy is a jerk for doing that. But being a jerk =/= being a rapist and deserving of a conviction. What bothers me the most is that the judge handed out this sentence. It is completely [bleep]ed up. No way could this be construed as rape. I know some countries have "fraud" or "misrepresentation" penalties in situations like this, but I have only seen it used in marital contexts where the husband gets married by lying to the wife. The only time I've seen anything so close is when a twin brother lied to his brother's drunk girlfriend that he was his brother and had sex with her. I think he got charged with rape, but I never knew the outcome of it.

If it's the same case I'm thinking of, he was convicted.

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Racist Zionism...what else needs to be said?


Zionism also upholds fascist Capitalist doctrine because Zionist Jews want to create large corporations and monopolies across globe. They steal Palestinian children in the dead of night for slavery in factories.

Капиталисты зла.

Communism is the only hope to unite human race and end racial hatred.


Uh, sorry, but this is very antisemitic, Serephurus. I hope this post isn't serious, and I'd hope that you'd apologize for such racist and crass remarks if it was.

Also, on the story at hand, I also blame the judge more than the girl. I can understand why this woman reacted the way she did, being lied to and manipulated into sleeping with someone is pretty [cabbage]ty. And the guy is a jerk for doing that. But being a jerk =/= being a rapist and deserving of a conviction. What bothers me the most is that the judge handed out this sentence. It is completely [bleep]ed up. No way could this be construed as rape. I know some countries have "fraud" or "misrepresentation" penalties in situations like this, but I have only seen it used in marital contexts where the husband gets married by lying to the wife. The only time I've seen anything so close is when a twin brother lied to his brother's drunk girlfriend that he was his brother and had sex with her. I think he got charged with rape, but I never knew the outcome of it.

If it's the same case I'm thinking of, he was convicted.


Ah ok, thanks! Now that would be what I'd call rape, especially because she was drunk.

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I'd call it statutory if anything - but "rape" is a very broad term, both in the literal and legal sense.

EDIT: I feel I should clarify - I don't in any means wish to condone his actions, but I do see a very real difference between what occurred in his case and someone who brutally rapes someone at knifepoint.

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I'd call it statutory if anything - but "rape" is a very broad term, both in the literal and legal sense.

EDIT: I feel I should clarify - I don't in any means wish to condone his actions, but I do see a very real difference between what occurred in his case and someone who brutally rapes someone at knifepoint.


Rape is rape. There is no in between, there is no "real" rape and "gray area rape." It is violent and aggressive whether or not there are weapons used to coerce intercourse. Date rape and some guy on the street with a knife raping you are the same thing: unwanted, violent aggression that has nothing to do with sex and love and everything to do with power.

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israeli chick got fooled, sucks, but still isn't rape. Hate to admit it, but the Palesines have the high ground in this case.

 

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I'd call it statutory if anything - but "rape" is a very broad term, both in the literal and legal sense.

EDIT: I feel I should clarify - I don't in any means wish to condone his actions, but I do see a very real difference between what occurred in his case and someone who brutally rapes someone at knifepoint.


Rape is rape. There is no in between, there is no "real" rape and "gray area rape." It is violent and aggressive whether or not there are weapons used to coerce intercourse. Date rape and some guy on the street with a knife raping you are the same thing: unwanted, violent aggression that has nothing to do with sex and love and everything to do with power.

You should read this:

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So the sex with the brother was "unwanted"? It was "violent"? The guy wanted to get his rocks off, he took advantage of a woman under the influence, for (probably) their mutual satisfaction. He decieved her, yes - but it's a far cry from a knife to the throat and broken bones.

I'll quote that very article you showed me: "Anyone who finds sexual gratification in the degradation, humiliation and pain of another human being is a predatory sadist"

Did the brother wish to degrade, humiliate and cause pain to the woman? I highly doubt it.

Same is the case in the OP's article.

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Rape is rape. There is no in between, there is no "real" rape and "gray area rape." It is violent and aggressive whether or not there are weapons used to coerce intercourse. Date rape and some guy on the street with a knife raping you are the same thing: unwanted, violent aggression that has nothing to do with sex and love and everything to do with power.

You should read this:

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Not always, statutory rape may be consensual as far as both parties are concerned, but the law says that a 14 year old cannot give "consent" in the same way that a 16 year old can so the sex is still classed as rape. Rape by deception cases have been brought before courts before but they're almost always thrown out. Taken to the extreme, every time you tell a girl you love her to sleep with her would become rape.
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Yea , the usual suspects are on board

And one asks how does one judge pertain to the whole of Israel. Weeeell, you see that judge is a judicial representative and decision maker, appointed by Israel, they're policy is an extension of Israel's policy.

Is this includes Salim Joubran and many other arabic judges in the israeli courts?
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Racist Zionism...what else needs to be said?

i see you still suffers from these uncontrolled tics whenever you see the word "Israel" ....

Completely agreed. It's rather unfair to blame all of Israel for one stupid judge, I think anyone who looked at this in any rational way would think that. It's just a stupid judge, stupid case and stupid conviction.

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Rape is rape. There is no in between, there is no "real" rape and "gray area rape." It is violent and aggressive whether or not there are weapons used to coerce intercourse. Date rape and some guy on the street with a knife raping you are the same thing: unwanted, violent aggression that has nothing to do with sex and love and everything to do with power.

You should read this:

http://www.vachss.co...ice_vachss.html


Not always, statutory rape may be consensual as far as both parties are concerned, but the law says that a 14 year old cannot give "consent" in the same way that a 16 year old can so the sex is still classed as rape. Rape by deception cases have been brought before courts before but they're almost always thrown out. Taken to the extreme, every time you tell a girl you love her to sleep with her would become rape.


I was mostly ignoring statutory rape. Speaking of which, there needs to be a national age of consent here in America, or something. It's 16 in some states, 18 in others.

Rape by deception I don't really consider rape except in some cases, like with the case that I mentioned.

i see you still suffers from these uncontrolled tics whenever you see the word "Israel" ....


No, it's not a tic. The reason that this judge agreed with her is because he is a racist. Had an Arab brought this case before the judge, I guarantee that there would nothing to see, and he would have rightfully thrown it out; if I were this man I would appeal the case. This really has nothing to do with Israel other than the mentality that some Israelis share with the government: Jewish heritage is supreme and must stay that way.

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Oh come on. Changing your consent afterwards is called regret, not rape. The judge needs to look up a dictionary.

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What is in a name anyways? What the person was actually named Daniel, but wasn't actually Jewish? Further, I'm confused what 'chance encounter' means and what would have come up. It was a short conversation and then sex: how on earth did she assume he would be a "Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship." Unless that was his pick-up line.

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Israel... It is in consistency with you other actions. And one asks how does one judge pertain to the whole of Israel. Weeeell, you see that judge is a judicial representative and decision maker, appointed by Israel, they're policy is an extension of Israel's policy.


http://public.findla...on-history.html

Would you say any of these are an extension of USA's policy?

In context of the time the case occurred, yes. I'm sure there were many kangaroo courts post Civil War just to convict blacks regardless of being actually guilty, and that reflected a general Southern mindset towards blacks at the time. Legislation may be written, but the judges are those who interpret the application. They put the finishing touches on legal policy.


True, but "consentual rape"'s legality, as explained in some of the posts here, is a grey area. While there may have been cases such as a twin brother deceiving a woman into bed (as Yguy suggested), there may also be cases such as simply admitting false love to a woman in order to have sex with her. The fact that the state of Israel (rightfully) disallowes "consentual rape" (such a funny phrase... :rolleyes: ), does not mean that that specific judge's decision represnts the Israeli policy.

Also, I assume you didn't read the articles?




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