Saru Inc Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 And thats the thing. Don't report people for just standing there, thats idiotic. And I don't have much faith in the Jagex system. I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 And thats the thing. Don't report people for just standing there, thats idiotic. And I don't have much faith in the Jagex system. Have you ever been banned for "standing there"? If not, why so angry? Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'm more paranoid then angry haha. My friend got banned for macroing, and while technically it was completely possible for him to have actually botted, he said he didn't. And he's not the kind of person that would. And I have heard of maybe 10 other cases of people who were banned for not botting. So its pretty uncommon to be honest, I just get anxious/paranoid easily. I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 if I see someone trying to escape out of the portal at the freaky forester or exit the Prison doors over and over and over and over again, I'm going to report them for botting. Sorry. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'm more paranoid then angry haha. My friend got banned for macroing, and while technically it was completely possible for him to have actually botted, he said he didn't. And he's not the kind of person that would. And I have heard of maybe 10 other cases of people who were banned for not botting. So its pretty uncommon to be honest, I just get anxious/paranoid easily. I also heard dozens of people that got banned for botting that claimed they never used macros....The thing is, it's pretty easy to spot at least 50-100 bots on any given world, meaning that about 5-10% of the playerbase is botting. Having said that, my experience in life shows me that people tend to overexagerate, put themselves in a better light and plainly lie whenever it helps them. When someone reports you for botting, chances are if you are not botting, you will never get ban, so your paranoia is not justified. If Jagex banned player from a single report, or multiple report of only one occurance, their banning system would be so bad, nobody would pay to play this game. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasscube Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 When someone reports you for botting, chances are if you are not botting, you will never get ban, so your paranoia is not justified. If Jagex banned player from a single report, or multiple report of only one occurance, their banning system would be so bad, nobody would pay to play this game.So you agree his paranoia IS justified? Help drive change Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 When someone reports you for botting, chances are if you are not botting, you will never get ban, so your paranoia is not justified. If Jagex banned player from a single report, or multiple report of only one occurance, their banning system would be so bad, nobody would pay to play this game.So you agree his paranoia IS justified? When chances are that slim, it is not justified. Anyway, paranoia is rarely justified unless it is diagnosed. :wink: Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noble_aloof Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I want raw material prices to shoot up. I'm making an anti bot video as I type this message. so you're a price manipulator now too? in a few years perhaps you'll read the posts you've made this past summer and realize who stupid, dull, and childish you make yourself seem.. on topic: bots just make it hard for players starting out who have no idea what the GE is or how to flip. i wish we could all just forget bots and realize that RS is evolving. back in the day when the richest players were rune miners bots would have made a huge impact. now, they basically help everybody out. if your looking to make money, just flip. resource gathering is sooo 2007. some of these botting sites have guys with masters degrees in computer science, which means there are mastermind programmers out there who are obviously smarter than jagex employees and can create great programs. jagex will have to take drastic measures to stop botting. banhammer isn't cutting it. especially with this one week ban bs, its almost inviting. [size="5"][font="Georgia"][b]Staking:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#FFFF00"][/color][color="#00FF00"] 4+ mil[/color][/font] [font="Georgia"][b]Current Status:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#0000FF"] Training defense [/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightshade53 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Saw a guy not talking to anyone at abbys, wearing elysian and guilded. Check his alog.. lol (remember to look at the dates) (For when it gets edited out here's the stats: 31 whip drops since the 28th of july. LOL) feed://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/rssfeed?searchName=Africa%A0Rebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 If 1000 players caught each a hundred bots that's 10,000 bots less in runescape per day. Maybe you should use some of your spare time learning math instead of hunting bots If we all worked together for just one day, pure essence bots would be gone forever and its price would shoot up, making mining pure essence actually good money.That would effectively make mage more expensive then pray/herb Because that's 24,300,000,000gp less illegitimately introduced to the economyYou're not introducing gp, it's just changing hands Any non macroers, legitimate players, even if you used to bot but stopped, please, just for one day, hunt some pure essence bots.No thanks, I have what I like to call a LIFE. You know, it's where you actually go outside and do stuff? I'm really tired of reading your childish posts and horribly flawed logic. Saw a guy not talking to anyone at abbys, wearing elysian and guilded. Check his alog.. lol (remember to look at the dates) (For when it gets edited out here's the stats: 31 whip drops since the 28th of july. LOL) feed://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/rssfeed?searchName=Africa%A0RebelMaybe he got all those whips by being extremely efficient by not talking to others? :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I've noticed this too. Was shocked by walking through the chaos tunnels to finish my black demon task to see the amount of bots at green drags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussietroopa Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I seriously don't know why you are making such a massive fuss about botting, Sw0rd. If you haven't worked it out yet, botting has existed in Runescape since it was released. There has literally NEVER been a single year in Runescapes life without botting. Your little plan of banning 100,000 botters a day? Won't work. Why? It takes exactly 30 seconds to start a new account, 30 seconds to set the bot up, and then it's back. As for your little trick to stop them mining ess? How long until it gets fixed? The only reason it isn't is most likely because absolutely no-one mines ess. I don't bot, but I really don't care if people do. But I have done some research, and let me just mention that the bots don't just farm ess. Most actually do Puro Puro, Hunter or Runecrafting. It's an utterly redundant issue anyway.. Seeing as bots will only stop after Runescape is gone forever, or stops letting people make new accounts. There is no point in [bleep]ing and whining about it. You can't do anything to stop it, so either deal with it, or find a game without bots. If you can. P.S: If you removed bots, the market price of everything may go up, but I highly doubt it would make skillers make soo much money, based on the fact that if materials rise, so will everything else. It's an economy, everything in it would be affected. Loss of ess would drive up the price, but it would also raise the price of everything else in the market. [/bads] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Just like in real life different people have different views on what they would like authorities to know and not to know. However, I do think Jagex should set up a covert team who have the ability to insta-ban bots and then have a few people to review those banning. na...j mods can do that but p mods not even if it were secret dont have that...we'd know. Botters are alot more secretive than you think. We have spies. ... We? Does that imply that you use bots? I'll turn a blind eye if that's the case anyway, there are loads more bots to report.But yes, unfortunately bots act like humans, log out, even talk. One can get the code for a bot by downloading one and dragging it into an open text document. If you did that with some bots, provided they were a file not a program, you'd be surprised at all their antiban features. I haven't personally tested this as bots could contain viruses, but I know they have powerful antibans. As pointed out by a certain youtube video maker who shall remain unnamed for privacy reasons has pointed out, they are almost undetectable. Jagex needs to shut down more botting sites.I'm scared of text files, they might have viruses. And there are lots of bots that cook/fletch/mage/w/e that costs money, so those bots balance out the bots that gather raws. Bots don't impact the economy as much as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidesForScapers Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 You could send a packet flood to the game server which would slow their connection down. This would also get you the FBI on your doorstep.I find it hard to believe that, as stated in your avatar, you are a java programmer. Generally anyone with any slightly extended knowledge of computers would know that:a) A single packet flood wouldn't even slow down a single person's connection, let alone a server.b) The FBI would give a crap about a harmless and pointless packet flood.c) You don't realise that any affect on the server would also affect the person causing the lag equally as much. ---No flaming beyond this point--- OT: Any bots that kill things may pick up drops, for example, feathers at chickens. Just drop any you get in a trail to some random place and it is sure to screw it up. I hate those chicken bots >.> they are fast so it screws me over if i make a new pure ;-; Legalize baby punching. Tax and regulate it. Punch babies erry day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 all rigt guys, you have convinced m, We should all just bot this game, it's probably better. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Just found this on one of the forums; Jagex macro detection system (it's not fake) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8633/moderatorspying2.pngThey're watching us :ohnoes: No bot name, script name, etc in pic so should be alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_Fat1 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Well for the CT green dragons you can drop nature runes/green dragonhides in the other room and watch them all attempt to walk through the wall to get it. :thumbsup:Water runes are cheaper. Proud Warlord of DragonwoodIf it's natural to kill, how come men have to go into training to learn how? ~ Joan Baez Rest in Peace 3xtermination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Mad_Nick Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 bots and macro's will always be a part of runescape,jagex can't stop them,and people bot,get banned *pppfffft* then make another bot,tricks u can do is lock them in rooms if possible(works well with essence miners) and if ur mining,keep a look for them,and steal their rocks,i dont know much else u can do also bots supply a hell of a lot of raw mats for people.Flax,bs,logs,ores,fish,wut ever really,most people dont care anymore,jagex is trying to take control without success,and taking rsbot's domain wasnt a big step,like sum1 on first page wrote its in google code,and jagex aint powerful enuf to take on google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undo Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hmm.. 1. "My ear's in a cup, I guess that doesn't count..."2. "So heyyy, that's a pretty reasonable reaction huh?"3. "So you up for NAFTA?"4. "That went exactly how I wanted it to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normalize Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I thought we've already established multiple times that bots were beneficial to RS. Stop hating :thumbdown: Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Oh, sorry I used a calculator for the maths, I must have misread it there, thanks for pointing it out. And also, if bots were gone, everything would shoot up, so herblore and prayer would shoot up too :) So we could make money from getting herbs, essence, and bones and the price would settle something inbetween the time straight after the removal of bots and the time of bots and money making would be easier and bots would be gone and everyone'd have more money for more expensive skills. Well, it's a lot of pure essence illegitimately entering runescape that belongs back in the rocks. You choose whether you bot hunt or not, but I'm going to keep at it, and anyone who cares about runescape, jagex and getting rid of bots can join me if they want. Ok. Lets use a good friend I like to call logic. (ok, we're more like acquaintences) You've been bot hunting for the past few months, safe to say, correct? And I think it's also safe to say, that bots have steadily increased in the past few months... See where I'm going? Incase you didn't: I think more people are botting just to spite you, so if I were you I'd stop RIGHT NOW. More bots are entering RuneScape before of youuuuuuuuu! How do you sleep at night. /sarcasm I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightshade53 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 109k people online now. I'll guess that 40k of them are botting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 I thought we've already established multiple times that bots were beneficial to RS. Stop hating :thumbdown: Agreed. Keep an eye out for today's Tip.it Times, and you'll see why it is a bad thing...Bare in mind that bots have slowly replaced skillers and other players that used to actually gather some stuff... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Koala Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 bots and macro's will always be a part of runescape,jagex can't stop them,and people bot,get banned *pppfffft* then make another bot,tricks u can do is lock them in rooms if possible(works well with essence miners) and if ur mining,keep a look for them,and steal their rocks,i dont know much else u can do also bots supply a hell of a lot of raw mats for people.Flax,bs,logs,ores,fish,wut ever really,most people dont care anymore,jagex is trying to take control without success,and taking rsbot's domain wasnt a big step,like sum1 on first page wrote its in google code,and jagex aint powerful enuf to take on google Taking over RSbot domain had nothing to do with stopping the bot. Jagex wanted that domain because it has RS in its name and the site was Runescape related. They are just trying to controll the domain ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Oh yea, because Jagex never thought of using google before. :roll: It takes more than *right click link* *click shut down domain* ... lrn2legalstuff I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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