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I don't think account sharing should be against the rules, nor should it be bannable. Jagex should just have a little "warning" in stronghold of security or whatnot that says "do it at your own risk, idiot". If you lose your account/items because you share your account, it's your own damn fault.


While I see your point, account sharing does one other thing. If you have 2 or 3 people playing an account it gives that account a huge advantage over other accounts with only 1 owner, as far as the ability to train is concerned. There would be no way for me to compete with an account that has twice as much available time to train. As others have mentioned about the Firecapes, it can also let someone do something for an account that its original owner might not have been able to. Account sharing can give an unfair advantage.

Not unfair if everyone can do it.

Also it's unfair that a middle school child can play 8 hours a day, while I can only play a few because of studies. Do you see me complaining?

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While i generally agree that account sharing is pretty stupid i have to say that i know my sons passwords and pins. there is a difference in sharing to gain an unfair advantage and keeping tabs on your children.

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While i generally agree that account sharing is pretty stupid i have to say that i know my sons passwords and pins. there is a difference in sharing to gain an unfair advantage and keeping tabs on your children.

yes, the difference is called blatant invasion of privacy :rolleyes:

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While i generally agree that account sharing is pretty stupid i have to say that i know my sons passwords and pins. there is a difference in sharing to gain an unfair advantage and keeping tabs on your children.

yes, the difference is called blatant invasion of privacy :rolleyes:



not when they are 7 and 8 years old

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While i generally agree that account sharing is pretty stupid i have to say that i know my sons passwords and pins. there is a difference in sharing to gain an unfair advantage and keeping tabs on your children.

yes, the difference is called blatant invasion of privacy :rolleyes:



not when they are 7 and 8 years old

then they're violating the jagex TOS and shouldn't be playing.

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While i generally agree that account sharing is pretty stupid i have to say that i know my sons passwords and pins. there is a difference in sharing to gain an unfair advantage and keeping tabs on your children.

yes, the difference is called blatant invasion of privacy :rolleyes:



not when they are 7 and 8 years old

then they're violating the jagex TOS and shouldn't be playing.

which specific rule. children under 13 are allowed by jagex to play and the jagex parental guide has a number of statements about what they expect parents to do to keep tabs on minors

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Heh, account sharing. Once you get a good look around 'cheat sites', you realise that half the time, something someone did was not legitimate.

I've seen many people admit to account sharing on IRC, I'm frankly not surprised.

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Hmmm. Account sharing kind of goes hand-in-hand with botting to me. I would personally never do either, not just because it's against the rules, but because I think it cheapens those achievements. I just wouldn't feel the same sense of accomplishment. Sometimes when I'm wandering around RS, I wonder how many of the skillcapes I see were earned legitimately...


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I don't think account sharing should be against the rules, nor should it be bannable. Jagex should just have a little "warning" in stronghold of security or whatnot that says "do it at your own risk, idiot". If you lose your account/items because you share your account, it's your own damn fault.


While I see your point, account sharing does one other thing. If you have 2 or 3 people playing an account it gives that account a huge advantage over other accounts with only 1 owner, as far as the ability to train is concerned. There would be no way for me to compete with an account that has twice as much available time to train. As others have mentioned about the Firecapes, it can also let someone do something for an account that its original owner might not have been able to. Account sharing can give an unfair advantage.

Not unfair if everyone can do it.

Also it's unfair that a middle school child can play 8 hours a day, while I can only play a few because of studies. Do you see me complaining?

e: NO, I don't complain, because it doesn't matter if you're better than me. :thumbup:


Haha, good point about it not being unfair if everyone can do it. I was still thinking about it from the point of today's rules, but combining it with no longer being against the rules... yeah...

Also, I hope I didn't come across as complaining. I was just trying to put my idea into the debate. I know plenty of people who account share, and I have been asked plenty of times if I could do something for a friend in exchange for them doing something on my account (e.g. a quest traded for some skilling). I don't whine about these friends being unfair, although I have made fun of the occasional one for not getting his own firecape :P I would simply rather have my accomplishments be my accomplishments, and not someone else's, so I personally don't account share.

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I forgot to say it the first time.
I liked the first article and thought it was a good topic.
I had actually heard of all of the bugs in the second article, but it was still interesting. The mechanics behind the Falador Massacre were explained differently in the article than what I had heard before this.

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I don't think account sharing should be against the rules, nor should it be bannable. Jagex should just have a little "warning" in stronghold of security or whatnot that says "do it at your own risk, idiot". If you lose your account/items because you share your account, it's your own damn fault.


While I see your point, account sharing does one other thing. If you have 2 or 3 people playing an account it gives that account a huge advantage over other accounts with only 1 owner, as far as the ability to train is concerned. There would be no way for me to compete with an account that has twice as much available time to train. As others have mentioned about the Firecapes, it can also let someone do something for an account that its original owner might not have been able to. Account sharing can give an unfair advantage.

Not unfair if everyone can do it.

Also it's unfair that a middle school child can play 8 hours a day, while I can only play a few because of studies. Do you see me complaining?

e: NO, I don't complain, because it doesn't matter if you're better than me. :thumbup:


Haha, good point about it not being unfair if everyone can do it. I was still thinking about it from the point of today's rules, but combining it with no longer being against the rules... yeah...

Also, I hope I didn't come across as complaining. I was just trying to put my idea into the debate. I know plenty of people who account share, and I have been asked plenty of times if I could do something for a friend in exchange for them doing something on my account (e.g. a quest traded for some skilling). I don't whine about these friends being unfair, although I have made fun of the occasional one for not getting his own firecape :P I would simply rather have my accomplishments be my accomplishments, and not someone else's, so I personally don't account share.

EDIT:
I forgot to say it the first time.
I liked the first article and thought it was a good topic.
I had actually heard of all of the bugs in the second article, but it was still interesting. The mechanics behind the Falador Massacre were explained differently in the article than what I had heard before this.

yah i wonder what % of firecapes are legit seeming as alot of maxed players dont have it....your saying every 111 has the attention span to do jad? :S

though i got mine legit it was at 2476 overall lol

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Heh...

Me and Mirrorforced had been debating how long it would take for someone admitting they shared accoutns at some point...


well, jagex didn't ban skiller_703 for account-sharing with his brother and getting 99 dungeoneering first (although they awarded a free trip to runefest for the #2 to reach 99, not the number 1).

in that light, why would regular players admit to account sharing? it doesn't pay to admit.

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I was stupid once. One of my friends convinced me to hand over my password so he'd help me beat the only quest I hadn't at the time(dragon slayer). Well, I was not only stupid enough to hand over my password and my pin, but to not do anything once I caught him stealing my items. (My brother was doing it, don't worry, I stopped him). How could I have been so blind, so stupid, so trusting? It cost me every one of my items, and every piece of my gold, but I learned. I realized every 'friend' is a con artist, every newb a beggar, every pro an ***hole, and anyone nice a figment of my imagination. I stopped talking to people, figuring they'd just rip me off in the long run. Stopped giving advice to newbs, they just wanted money. And while this made me a lot more cynical, its also kept it from happening again.

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I was stupid once. One of my friends convinced me to hand over my password so he'd help me beat the only quest I hadn't at the time(dragon slayer). Well, I was not only stupid enough to hand over my password and my pin, but to not do anything once I caught him stealing my items. (My brother was doing it, don't worry, I stopped him). How could I have been so blind, so stupid, so trusting? It cost me every one of my items, and every piece of my gold, but I learned. I realized every 'friend' is a con artist, every newb a beggar, every pro an ***hole, and anyone nice a figment of my imagination. I stopped talking to people, figuring they'd just rip me off in the long run. Stopped giving advice to newbs, they just wanted money. And while this made me a lot more cynical, its also kept it from happening again.


I'm pretty cynical, and I'll be the first to tell you, you don't need to be quite so cynical, it's bad for your health. Just because you can't trust everyone on everything, doesn't mean you can't trust some people on some things. You got burned once, that doesn't mean you should burn all the people that aproch you from now on.

Anyway, liked the articles this week. Remember all the bugs from when they happened. Think account sharing (except in very limited instances of emergancies that don't envolve exp gain) is cheating. You should do you're own stuff, and compete with the rest of us on a one to one basis.

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I don't think account sharing should be against the rules, nor should it be bannable. Jagex should just have a little "warning" in stronghold of security or whatnot that says "do it at your own risk, idiot". If you lose your account/items because you share your account, it's your own damn fault.


While I see your point, account sharing does one other thing. If you have 2 or 3 people playing an account it gives that account a huge advantage over other accounts with only 1 owner, as far as the ability to train is concerned. There would be no way for me to compete with an account that has twice as much available time to train. As others have mentioned about the Firecapes, it can also let someone do something for an account that its original owner might not have been able to. Account sharing can give an unfair advantage.

Not unfair if everyone can do it.

Also it's unfair that a middle school child can play 8 hours a day, while I can only play a few because of studies. Do you see me complaining?

e: NO, I don't complain, because it doesn't matter if you're better than me. :thumbup:


Not the same at all. It wouldn't be fair for a student to buy his grades in school, because he would rather play Runescape all day than study.
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TOS Referring to children under 13 years of age:

TOS


Rule about who can use account:

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So no, even a parent isn't allowed to USE a child's account, although the rules doesn't say anything about the parent KNOWING the password.

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Heh...

Me and Mirrorforced had been debating how long it would take for someone admitting they shared accounts at some point...


Not very long if you have been friends for awhile. People on my friend list talking about it from time to time, and it seems family member or best friend tend share it the most. My take is exactly like your article said, my character is mine alone, if you share it or sell it, it won't be you anymore. The idea is the same for people who said they were hacked, and I knew that they either got keylogged by visiting inappropriate site, or give their info away, which is why I usually don't give sympathy much.

Overall, a very good article and sums up that particular rule for people to keep in mind.

On another hand, the same principle could be apply to item sharing (before item lending), one of my friend lend her full dragon armor to her "best" friend (known for 2 years) to snap some screenie with. After the trade, they depart, and the best friend was never heard again. The result was kind of sad because I can tell that she wasn't able to trust people anymore (at least on RS).

The bug abuse article was a good read, though I never really encounter it myself. Of course, I would see a lot people tempted for sure, its simply human nature and how strong you stand by yourbelief.
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Actually... by "how long" we meant how long into the dicussion thread...

Turns out it took only 7 replies, something I'd expected... Mirror was of the opinion that noone would dare admitting account sharing...

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Actually... by "how long" we meant how long into the dicussion thread...

Turns out it took only 7 replies, something I'd expected... Mirror was of the opinion that noone would dare admitting account sharing...

Well I'll admit that someone in my clan asked me to do a firecape for him, lol.

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I've never given my password or pin to anyone, nor have I ever asked for them either. That being said, if someone really needed my help I don't know whether I would help them or not.

As for the bugs article, I knew about fally massacre (no duh haha) and about the pvp drop glitch. Didn't know about the safe deaths, but really not all that surprised.

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Eh, I can admit to account sharing. I'd do quests for people, they'd skill for me.

It's a bit like trading, in a twisted and rule-breaking kind of way.

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