Urza285 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I was curious as if there was anything said on this. I could have sworn that there was a jmod that said that they would discuss there being an option for this. Does anyone have any relavent information regarding this? Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I haven't heard anything new about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 If I understood previous update commentsd correctly, they're working in D2.0 to make things cheaper to re-obtain if you've already bought them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_knames Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 On a related note, I would like to see the option for a one-time trade-in of items already bought after they release the new rewards. Normally I would say there's no reason to do so, but it takes so much effort to get some of those items, that it's almost time prohibitive to get any new ones. I would assume that such a trade-in would not be for full value and would be balanced appropriately. Maxed total levelsRemaining for Completionist Cape: Livid Farm spell (Borrowed Power) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Sadly, when a Jmod says they'll look into it, it means it won't be coming for a LONG time, if at all. Exhibit A: Andrew says they're looking into name changing capabilities, and it comes out a few months later. If something relatively simple like changing a name takes months, think about how long something more complicated would take. Not saying that the time they take is unreasonable, but I'm just pointing out that it's going to be a long wait, if they decide to add it at all. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Sadly, when a Jmod says they'll look into it, it means it won't be coming for a LONG time, if at all. Exhibit A: Andrew says they're looking into name changing capabilities, and it comes out a few months later. If something relatively simple like changing a name takes months, think about how long something more complicated would take. Not saying that the time they take is unreasonable, but I'm just pointing out that it's going to be a long wait, if they decide to add it at all.name changing was a hard thing to decide how they would make it so people do what they do how they make it not abused seperating the user from the display name dealing with offensive name i think they want it all balanced have to have at least some risk in this game but i'd like to be able to get cls for a cheaper price if i lose in cb :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would imagine that it'd be half the original price if implemented. You lose your rapier, you pay 100k tokens for your next one. I think the minimum they could do while still being somewhat reasonable is 1/4 the price, so 50k after your first chaotic weapon. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Either way they should have implemented this from the start... Idk why jagex is making people earn 2M xp repeatedly just cause people are idiots and risk chaotic for no good reason My original suggestion was just to spend DG tokens to buy the ability to use an item and then pay money/tokens combo to buy the actual item. I'm pretty sure on the order of 30-50M would be reasonable and also a huge money sink Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Sadly, when a Jmod says they'll look into it, it means it won't be coming for a LONG time, if at all. Exhibit A: Andrew says they're looking into name changing capabilities, and it comes out a few months later. If something relatively simple like changing a name takes months, think about how long something more complicated would take. Not saying that the time they take is unreasonable, but I'm just pointing out that it's going to be a long wait, if they decide to add it at all.name changing was a hard thing to decide how they would make it so people do what they do how they make it not abused seperating the user from the display name dealing with offensive nameYea, in the same way that the best weapons in the game being easily reobtainable would probably be abused. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKoolKandy Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I'm thinking something like crytal items for the cost of recharging/rebuying chaotic items. Even if you were stupid and got owned for your cls or something you shouldn't have to get another 200k tokens to get it back, still not saying it should get really cheap though. Slayer; it's just what I do.Thanks Hugger 88 for the awesome siggy!Click show if you want to see achievements.Achievments: Maxed/Comp'd 7th of August 2012. 120 Dungeoneering sometime early december 2011. 99 Slayer achieved October 22nd, 2010. 99 Prayer achieved September 99 18th 2010. Summoning achieved September 14th 2010. 99 Defence achieved May 8th 2010. 99 Constituton achieved April 24th 2010. 99 Attack achieved on January 29th 2010 at 8:00 PM. Questpoint Cape on August 30th 2009.99 Strength (11:47 P.M. August 17 2009). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I wouldn't mind the reduced price. Now reducing the recharge fee is a different story... :^_^: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svs Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And i was already so sad that i had died with my gem bag, man i would really go mentally ill if i'd had bought a rapier and then loose it (i would have lost it as well should i have one as i would then have had one with me at the time i died)First time i died in RS2, luckely my gem bag wasn't that full... Shows really how much thought Jagex is putting in their content lately. Reminds me of a scene from an old movie where an american wants to buy a car from a budget dealers, and the owner (who's indean) is trying to sell him a truck that couldn't make left nor right turns.He said like; "It good car, it take you to destination only straight ahead what else you need?" It's how i see a lot of updates lately, they're okay but not finished.And instead of working on new content and fixing things that aren't broken they should really fix all the small nasty errors they have made over the past couple of years, some are inevitable to occur but instead of ignoring them they should aknowledge them and do something about it asap. [~Visit my Slayer Blog~] Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.~unknown~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassynder Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ Everything you listed comes from an activity, not a skill. Chaotic weapons are the best weapons in the game for almost every situation. The items you listed are not. Aside from the two highest tier CW armors (which are useful only in CW, mind you, and should not be used anywhere else, unlike chaotic), none of those items (or item sets) take longer than nine hours to get. It takes significantly longer to obtain a chaotic weapon. Even HALVING the price to RE-BUY (that is, you have to spend the initial 20-30 hours to get the weapon) put the weapons ahead of any of those items in time required to re-obtain. It's entirely fair. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Sadly, when a Jmod says they'll look into it, it means it won't be coming for a LONG time, if at all. Exhibit A: Andrew says they're looking into name changing capabilities, and it comes out a few months later. If something relatively simple like changing a name takes months, think about how long something more complicated would take. Not saying that the time they take is unreasonable, but I'm just pointing out that it's going to be a long wait, if they decide to add it at all.name changing was a hard thing to decide how they would make it so people do what they do how they make it not abused seperating the user from the display name dealing with offensive name i think they want it all balanced have to have at least some risk in this game but i'd like to be able to get cls for a cheaper price if i lose in cb :P Right, which is why I said that I think the time they take is reasonable and logical, but a long time nonetheless. And when you compare an update like name changing to other updates they said they'd "look into" (new skills, new dungeons, etc.), it IS a pretty simple one, no matter what case you make for the "details" of it. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ Everything you listed comes from an activity, not a skill. Chaotic weapons are the best weapons in the game for almost every situation. The items you listed are not. Aside from the two highest tier CW armors (which are useful only in CW, mind you, and should not be used anywhere else, unlike chaotic), none of those items (or item sets) take longer than nine hours to get. It takes significantly longer to obtain a chaotic weapon. Even HALVING the price to RE-BUY (that is, you have to spend the initial 20-30 hours to get the weapon) put the weapons ahead of any of those items in time required to re-obtain. It's entirely fair. So the reward seller should be pitiful about you? The poor guy already has enough trouble smuggling those items out of Deamonheim.If you lose an item worth 50m (I assume people value their chaotic equipment at 50m), you die and lose it, do you think you deserve to get it off the GE for 25m? Nope, you'll just have to earn that 50m back, and that doesn't take longer than nine hours. RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ Everything you listed comes from an activity, not a skill. Chaotic weapons are the best weapons in the game for almost every situation. The items you listed are not. Aside from the two highest tier CW armors (which are useful only in CW, mind you, and should not be used anywhere else, unlike chaotic), none of those items (or item sets) take longer than nine hours to get. It takes significantly longer to obtain a chaotic weapon. Even HALVING the price to RE-BUY (that is, you have to spend the initial 20-30 hours to get the weapon) put the weapons ahead of any of those items in time required to re-obtain. It's entirely fair. So the reward seller should be pitiful about you? The poor guy already has enough trouble smuggling those items out of Deamonheim.If you lose an item worth 50m (I assume people value their chaotic equipment at 50m), you die and lose it, do you think you deserve to get it off the GE for 25m? Nope, you'll just have to earn that 50m back, and that doesn't take longer than nine hours. Why would you compare normal sellable items to earned items... theyre pretty different... and idk what you're doing that earns 9M/hr Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Aren't sellable items earned items? Unless you sit at the party room and get 50m as a drop... RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Aren't sellable items earned items? Unless you sit at the party room and get 50m as a drop... Not really, b/c you usually make money w/o one single particular item in mind, and some people just start off w/ a lot of money Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 That money has been earned by hours of working, not by just sitting around.Dungeoneering tokens is a currency just like coins, tokkul, trading sticks, fist of guthix tokens and others. Each of them requires time and effort to gather, and each has various rewards. I don't see why one of them should have this cheaper item on death system, while the others don't have it. It is just a different method of gaining that currency. RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And while we're at it, why won't we implent cheaper void, cw armour, fighter torsos, naval, etc. because you already bought it before?People should just learn that there are risks, and if they die and not get back in time there are consequences :/ Everything you listed comes from an activity, not a skill. Chaotic weapons are the best weapons in the game for almost every situation. The items you listed are not. Aside from the two highest tier CW armors (which are useful only in CW, mind you, and should not be used anywhere else, unlike chaotic), none of those items (or item sets) take longer than nine hours to get. It takes significantly longer to obtain a chaotic weapon. Even HALVING the price to RE-BUY (that is, you have to spend the initial 20-30 hours to get the weapon) put the weapons ahead of any of those items in time required to re-obtain. It's entirely fair. So the reward seller should be pitiful about you? The poor guy already has enough trouble smuggling those items out of Deamonheim.If you lose an item worth 50m (I assume people value their chaotic equipment at 50m), you die and lose it, do you think you deserve to get it off the GE for 25m? Nope, you'll just have to earn that 50m back, and that doesn't take longer than nine hours. Chaotic weapons are actually valued at much higher than 50M. Assuming you can make 5M/h, and getting a chaotic weapon takes 30 hours (normal for the average dungeoneer, if a bit low), it's worth at least 150M. And lest I remind you that THIS IS A SKILL? People don't go out their way to get chaotic weapons like they do with activities. It's THE most important part of leveling dungeoneering. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And why would it be any different from losing an item worth 150m?If you lose an item worth that much (let's say a red h'ween mask) you lose the time and effort you put in getting that amount of money.If you lose a chaotic item, you lose the time and effort you put in getting that amount of tokens.Just because there are more ways to make gp doesn't make it less of a loss. RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 And why would it be any different from losing an item worth 150m?If you lose an item worth that much (let's say a red h'ween mask) you lose the time and effort you put in getting that amount of money.If you lose a chaotic item, you lose the time and effort you put in getting that amount of tokens.Just because there are more ways to make gp doesn't make it less of a loss. IT. IS. A. SKILL. And reread all of my other arguments, which I will not repeat for the third or fourth time. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Either way they should have implemented this from the start... Idk why jagex is making people earn 2M xp repeatedly just cause people are idiots and risk chaotic for no good reason My original suggestion was just to spend DG tokens to buy the ability to use an item and then pay money/tokens combo to buy the actual item. I'm pretty sure on the order of 30-50M would be reasonable and also a huge money sink Agreed. It definitely should have been implemented this way. We're in need of some more money sinks. PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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