Does a Clan HAVE to PvP?

[Briann]

Quick Note about this thread: This thread is NOT for flaming.

 

 

Just wanted to know your guys's opinion on PvP. Does a clan really have to PvP? I mean if a clan really doesn't want to do it why should they. If you say Yes that they have to, please state why it is needed.

 

Opinions?

[Uffan5]

Only if they want to be ranked among the top 20 or so clans, if not they can stay in CWA all they want and do whatever they want to please their members without doing PvP.

[Briann]

Fine, Edited :P

[Nobody]

I don't think a clan has to PVP. I can see why clans PVP but there is really no reason they must. Unless of course you're afraid of the opinion of someone on the internet.

[CruelKiller]

its not a most but if you want to step up the level then PVP should be what you looking :shades:

[The Observer]

It depends on what YOU as a founder/leader decide to do. It just happens to be that the more popular clans PvP.

[das]

lots of clans skill and monster hunt as well, in most cases the clans that stick around the posts about clan history are almost always pvp clans, but some people just enjoy boss hunting and minigames - and imo, nothing is horribly wrong with doing what you want to enjoy, but keep in mind both types clans pull different demographics. sometimes tension can develop if you try to split a clan between skills and pvp.

[Neltak]

Is this about a) safe pvp (cwa) vs risky pvp (bounty/pvp worlds) or

b) skilling/monster hunting vs warring clans?

 

If a) I think that safe pvp wars can be considered a starting point for clans. Unfortunately most of the clans that are considered top 10/20/30 much prefer fighting in risky pvp, and therefore makes it tough for upcoming clans to get safe wars with them. Also I believe there comes a time when a safe pvp clan reaches a dead end and has to look to fighting risky pvp wars in order to get more fights and better competition. Long story short, once you start pulling 35+ its time to start looking for a few risky pvp wars.

 

If b) then pvp isn't needed in a clan at all. Many of the skilling/mh clans have a dedicated, friendly memberbase who are a part of those clans because they're centered around what they want to do. While you don't see near as much publicity from skilling/mh clans, its merely because they don't advertise their events like the pvp clans do in their war recaps. Successful clans come in all varieties, how successful they become depends on the leadership and members' attitudes.

[Ankit]

No.

[IMB]

No.

 

But if your clan wants to move up in the clanworld, You should pvp.

[Radicafire]

Personally i Dont think that a clan needs to pvp to be good, I associate the wilderness with a lot of flaming and crashing. Now i know thats not always the case, but a lot of time it is. Plus in pvp the way you win a pkri is having the most ppl at the end. So even if your clan outperformed the other clan the whole war, they win because they have like 9 more opts. Main reason i like clan war its organized better, theres much less flaming and zero crashing.

[Danny_TeamDan]

The rush and enjoyment of Pvp versus CWA leads me to push other clans into trying more pvp. I don't mind CWA, unless it's melee binds matched opts. Matched opts in general should be limited but that's what most CWA clans end up doing, which in the long run will hurt them after their members get bored of the same competition. Pvp anything could happen and you can never be 100% sure of a win.

[LTH_Dev_Ranges]

I say no. Whats the main difference between CWA and PVP? There isn't really a huge one aside from the risk. You bind in both, you tank in both, you range in both, you blast in both, its all the same really. A lot of clans use PVP to intimidate lower clans (Ex. I got asked for a fullout pkri by a clan of 70 people, when we have a memberlist of 33) which is pretty pathetic in my opinion. When I say no to requests like that, all I get is "OMG POOR REJECT NOOBS, FAIL CLAN NO PVP."

[IMB]

I say no. Whats the main difference between CWA and PVP? There isn't really a huge one aside from the risk. You bind in both, you tank in both, you range in both, you blast in both, its all the same really. A lot of clans use PVP to intimidate lower clans (Ex. I got asked for a fullout pkri by a clan of 70 people, when we have a memberlist of 33) which is pretty pathetic in my opinion. When I say no to requests like that, all I get is "OMG POOR REJECT NOOBS, FAIL CLAN NO PVP."

 

 

Its more different than that.

 

Theres risk of losing your rune.

Less bonuses

There are crashers in pvp.

Larger area to war,

Returning.

Longer wars

 

Pvp has a different feel then CWA. Its more exciting, intense, and enjoyable IMO.

[Ralph]

A clan doesn't have to do PvP fights. They never have, peer pressure from the clan world shouldn't change your outlook. I love PvP fights and fighting in CWA is just plain boring to me, but that's just my opinion, it shouldn't be yours.

 

The only thing I regret is that to even be considered a top 15-20 clan, you have to PvP. It's just the way the world works. Another thing that really pisses me off is the fact that Top 15 clans are always saying, you should be PvPing oh my god more clans need to PvP yet when clans like Downfall (who started PvPing about half a year or so ago I believe) they try to hinder them and impair them and say stick to CWA. That's something I really don't understand.

 

But hey, in the end it's whatever floats your boat. Do what you and your clan love, and whatever other people think don't bother with them.

[bravehero12]

 

 

Its more different than that.

 

Theres risk of losing your rune.

Less bonuses

There are crashers in pvp.

Larger area to war,

Returning.

Longer wars

 

Pvp has a different feel then CWA. Its more exciting, intense, and enjoyable IMO.

well said, i agree, pvp is more enjoyable

[Raee]

No, a clan does not have to pvp. Heck, mine doesn't even do cwa!

[machamp195]

Nah. But i don't know why some clans only war in cwa. You loose around 200-300k each time you die, you can make the cash back by 76king

[Krist115]

No.

[HAR]

Clans enjoy PvP because of the possibility of loot and some clans just like the drama.

 

We are CWA only for a number of reasons:

• Always gives a clear cut result, its either a win or a loss.
  
• It requires members to perform at all times and not just die and return.
  
• Eliminates crashing.
  
• Eliminates controversy around food trading or interference.
  
• You can use more of your gear (which you wouldn't to die with - DG/RC Staff) so bonuses play a bigger part.
  
• You don't lose or gain anything, just have fun.
  
• Its closer and faster to return during PKRIs.

Probably more but those are the main points. Since we are also a 2ndry clan, we'd rather not waste the members rune because they'd want to use it for their main clan - and we can help "train them" into becoming more useful and experience pound for pound.

[KingYufei]

YES !

 

 

Kinda ironic ey? :cool:

[mrmyk]

Not at all. Most clans don't even fight at all and are based around other aspects of the game. I think it's best to enjoy all aspects of the game so I like a mixture of PvP & CWA - as well as skilling, boss hunting etc. - but if a clan's members don't wish to fight in PvP, it's entirely their choice and no one can force them to do something if they don't want to.

[20Rice04]

No, there're pros and cons to it, imo the cons ouweigh the pros.

 

In CWA there's always a clear victor, there's no crashing, and you don't have to worry about having enough rune sets to make it to the end of the fight.

 

While PvP does give more of a rush and a larger warring zone, I find that their tends to be a lot of disputes, flaming and crashing associated with it.

 

Really I'm game for either, but just think CWA is more fun. It does annoy me but when people start this bull with "oh my god, you don't pvp, your clan sucks"... Man up, each to his own, just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone should conform to your views of fun.

[The Observer]

A clan doesn't have to do PvP fights. They never have, peer pressure from the clan world shouldn't change your outlook. I love PvP fights and fighting in CWA is just plain boring to me, but that's just my opinion, it shouldn't be yours.

 

The only thing I regret is that to even be considered a top 15-20 clan, you have to PvP. It's just the way the world works. Another thing that really pisses me off is the fact that Top 15 clans are always saying, you should be PvPing oh my god more clans need to PvP yet when clans like Downfall (who started PvPing about half a year or so ago I believe) they try to hinder them and impair them and say stick to CWA. That's something I really don't understand.

 

But hey, in the end it's whatever floats your boat. Do what you and your clan love, and whatever other people think don't bother with them.

 

Just trolls getting at you, so you shouldn't worry about it. The reason why we need more PvP clans is (from personal experience) it can be hard to find clans to fight. And with PvP clans that closed, it makes it increasingly more difficult.

[xMike]

No. PvP should be a personal choice. No one should feel obligated to go there. In my opinion, it limits your clan's full waring potential. As mentioned above, some equipment is not brought to the wars, thus hindering what those members could be doing. Sure, it's fun for loot and a new experience, but it shouldn't be "oh if you don't go you're not a man". Well, myself personally, am not going to feel less of a man because I spend my internet time in one place as opposed to another. It's all about self preference. Like I said, I like a clear win or loss.