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Looking Further Into Burning Shades


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Awhile back I had decided to get a couple prayer & firemaking levels from burning magic pyre logs & Fiyr Shades.

After I had finished, I decided that I would so a little study on your chances of getting stuff from burning shades & looting chests.

 

Burning Shades:

While Burning shades, I used magic pyre logs & fiyr shades.

When burning these you get silver keys.

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Picture off Tip.it Shade Burning Guide

 

When using the logs & shades I averaged around to do 1 trip (13 logs & shades) in ~2 minutes.

I used 6,331 pyre magic logs & Fiyr Shades. Here is the keys I got with some more information

 

Color Worth Amount % Chance of Getting

Crimson 98 gp 2246 35.476%

Brown 97 gp 960 15.163%

Red 96 gp 918 14.5%

Black 99 gp 506 7.99%

Purple 100 gp 313 4.94%

Cash random 1388 21.19%

 

Exp Gains for burning shades:

100 prayer experience per burn

404.5 firemaking experience (with ring of fire & flame gloves it's 425.5 exp per)

So in the 6,331 logs I burnt I gained:

633,100 Prayer experience

2,693,840.5 Firemaking experience

 

After getting all the burning done, I ended with 4,943 keys. From here I started looting the chests.

While doing these, I didn't keep a drop-by-drop log, so I didn't keep track of the chances of getting coins, bloods, deaths, yew, and magic logs because you could get those at random amounts WITH the other drops you could get.

 

1 trip of 22 keys took ~2 minutes 20 seconds

 

Amount Item % Chance of Getting

101 rune meds .0204%

30 rune longs .0081%

56 rune scims .011%

29 rune chains .0059%

92 rune longs .0186%

 

219 addy helms .0443%

96 addy plates .019%

99 addy skirts .02%

99 addy legs .02%

154 addy kites .031%

226 addy squares .045%

90 addy chains .018%

176 addy warhammers .036%

75 addy longs .0152%

106 addy 2h .0214%

132 addy baxes .0267%

356 addy spears (p) .072%

321 addy spears .0649%

 

110 mith bodies .0223%

119 mith skirts .0241%

 

215 black plates .0435%

215 black spears .0435%

 

3975 bloods

6307 deaths

84 battlestaves .017%

122 diamond rings .0247%

156 power ammies .032%

3,117,787gp

682 fine cloth .138%

730 yew logs

427 magic logs

138 flamtaer hammers .0289%

 

There is also a VERY high chance of getting a clue scroll from looting chests ~1 per 5 trips (22 keys), so I only did clues every so many keys.

 

Loot from clues:

Clues Done: x25

8x rune hatchet

7x rune plate

4x rune full

1x rune kite h5

6x rune long

8x rune baxe

9x rune legs

4x rune pick

5x rune dag

72x rune bolts

5x rune cbow

109x shark

40x lobs

19x purple sweets

8x biscuits

8x black dhide chaps

3x black dhide body

1 x blue dhide chaps (g)

1 x zammy page 3

152x mahogany plank

129 bloods

255 nats

70 laws

1x sara plate

1x rune legs (t)

141x sara arrows

45x zammy arrows

80x guthix arrows

5x lumbyard tele

6x pheonix lair tele

13x nardah tele

15x Tai bwo Wannai teleport

3x msb

2x willow comp bow

1x magic comp bow

10,367 coins

12x fetch scrolls

5x meerkats

Bandos page 3

1x enchanted top

 

Total Loot From Keys:

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Total Loot from Clues from the Chests:

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Cost of Magic Pyre Logs & Fiyr Shades (3.5kea): 22.16m

Total of Looting & Clues: ~46m

Net Profit: 23.84m

 

Other Info:

For the shades I burned & keys I used. Here's is the amount of time it would take if you did it NON-stop keeping the average time per trip I had.

6,331/13 = 487 (trips) x 120 secs (a trip) = 58440 secs / 60 seconds = 974 mins / 60 mins = 16.23 hours.

5,000/22 = 227.3 (trips) x 200 secs (a trip) = 45,460 secs / 60 seconds = 757.67 mins / 60 mins = 12.63 hours

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Interesting, but what's your conclusion?

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Lots of data here. Very good job :D

 

I'm not sure if I'm actually going make a spreadsheet calculator on shade burning.

But if I did, some time, eventually, would you mind if I used your data?

 

Go right ahead. But you would probably have to go even further into it because of the fact that I didn't take a log each time for coins, runes, logs AND an item that you can get (double loots) and I only did clues every so often so you'd probably have to take time to do it and find out what the % chance of getting those are.

 

Interesting, but what's your conclusion?

 

No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol

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How much prayer exp is that?

 

100 prayer experience per burn

404.5 firemaking experience (with ring of fire & flame gloves it's 425.5 exp per burn)

 

So in the 6,331 logs I burnt I gained:

633,100 Prayer experience

2,693,840.5 Firemaking experience

 

Interesting stuff.You bought the Sacred oil in GE?

Any details on the spots where you killed the shades etc etc?

100 pray xp for each shade.

 

I bought the magic pyre logs and fiyr shades right off the ge.

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No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol

 

Oh, how long did this all take you?

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No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol

 

Oh, how long did this all take you?

 

I took my time (got distracted easily with life, monster hunting, my clan, etc). However I did my last 2.5k keys within 2 weeks (but being distracted alot lol)

You can probably burn the amount of logs I had 6.3k and use the keys I had ~5k in about a week if you did it without stopping to do other things. (However I dunno if you'd no life it lol)

Pretty much

6,331/26 = 243.5 (trips) x 120 secs (a trip) = 29220 secs / 60 seconds = 487 mins / 60 mins = 8.12 hours.

5,000/22 = 227.3 (trips) x 200 secs (a trip) = 45,460 secs / 60 seconds = 757.67 mins / 60 mins = 12.63 hours

So if you did it non-stop, getting the average time per trip that I had, you could theoretically finish burning 6.3k logs and using 5k keys in 20.75 hours.

 

Interesting.How long did it take for the items to buy?Means w77 isn't dead yet...

Umm, It took about 2 weeks to buy the 6k pyre logs & fiyr shades.

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Its good to see older content still being used :thumbup:

 

Would you recommend this method?

 

Also, how long did it take to burn everything?

 

For prayer, not really, it's profitable prayer exp, but you can get faster exp & make money other ways.

For the firemaking exp, 425 exp per logs is VERY good (unless you have fm brawlers)

 

I looked at it like this.. "It's protfitable prayer & fm exp"

 

Would I recommend it?

Well, if your dedicated and want to get prayer & fm exp with profit, Yes I would. However if you think it would take you a long time to burn all the logs & use all the keys (like walking, standing doing nothing, etc while burning or using keys) then probably not because you could have made more profit & exp doing other things.

If you can keep the average of 160 seconds per trip burning & 200 seconds a trip using keys, then yes, it is a very good exp/gp method (profitable).

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when you get to the cost portion you only count 3.5k for the cost of burning the shade when really it is 7k, making it still profitable but by very little

 

When I bought the supplies it was 3.5k, but now with the ge prices changes the profit can change of course. Either way (as of now) it's still a profitable exp/gp way of training.

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