Ambler Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Are the Godswords outdated? When you think about it- they have been outclassed by other items: Dragon Claws > AGS? Faster, a more damaging spec, and what? 50m cheaper? Elite Enchanted Excalibur (EEE)/ Soul split > SGS? - EEE isnt damage based, and gives a defense boost, you can flash soul split to heal very effictivly ZGS- It still has its uses at Sara GWD i guess- but you're better off barraging anywhere else. BGS- The cheapest Godsword (at time of writing) and has yet to be outclassed by a non-degradable wep: It's helpful at Corp, and can take a chunk out of people's defense in PVP! It is outclassed by the Statius Warhammer, but you really want to pay 10m every gwd trip? Open to disscussion- what could come in the future and outclass the EEE, Dclaws etc! Remember: We still have lots of dragon weapons to be made, so take that into consideration! If there is already a topic for this, then sorry- didn't see one! I hope to see some opionions on this- and its a good idea not to start flame wars! *I didn't include the Chaotic weps- but i'm sure people will mention them!* ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollface Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 The CLS and rapier have already beat every godsword. Based on what Mod French said at a event last year, I believe a Chuck Norris Godsword will come out within the next century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Zaros GS anybody? ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 The Chaos maul nails every godswords. So yeah. BGS- The cheapest Godsword (at time of writing) and has yet to be outclassed by a non-degradable wep: It's helpful at Corp, and can take a chunk out of people's defense in PVP! It is outclassed by the Statius Warhammer, but you really want to pay 10m every gwd trip? Its cheap for a specific reason, because there is no absolute use for the special. The statius warhammer is far more effective since the drainis only 35% AND you also get 25% more damage PER HIT which is superior to the BGS warstrike which only does 10% more damage and theeffect is damage based. Also, you forgot that once you used your special, they can just switch to a different weapon until the special refillswhich will take a pretty long time for the hammer to degrade completely. :P I personally think godswords are done with. The only players buying them are mid lvl 120-30s with a low dungeonerring level. Once dungeonerring gets more popular, they'll be just like d2hs or other aesthetic items today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Yea prty much. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashNburn Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Outdated for what, exactly? Right from their introduction they weren't useful, outside of a handful of situations. Interactive dungeoneering floor mapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 The Chaos maul nails everything. So yeah. the maul only has crush options remember- and it's two handed, slow and wont do much damage to dragons- might not nail everything ;) ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Has a godsword ever been a good weapon apart from it's special? don't think so. In any case, AGS is still useful for edge pking. BGS has it's uses in 4-8 man corping. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyKing Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Lol wut? I use whip. :thumbup: Blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 The Chaos maul nails everything. So yeah. the maul only has crush options remember- and it's two handed, slow and wont do much damage to dragons- might not nail everything ;) Godswords are exactly like that too. Which side are you arguing? :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 In any case, AGS is still useful for edge pking. I always thought claws would be better. Better spec, and you can do back to back specs very, very fast. By comarpison, you hit one spec with AGS, and even if they were half asleep they would probably have time to food combo. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 I use whip. :thumbup:Snap! *takes whip* Just wondering what other people's opionions on this were tbh ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 In any case, AGS is still useful for edge pking. I always thought claws would be better. Better spec, and you can do back to back specs very, very fast. By comarpison, you hit one spec with AGS, and even if they were half asleep they would probably have time to food combo.Umm, it's not really hard not to get KO'd when you see a guy using a scimitar, and they'll be useless after they've used their specs. AGS is definitely the better option(also there's a method of ignoring claw spec damage). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Outdated for what, exactly? Right from their introduction they weren't useful, outside of a handful of situations. When they were made, summoning, curses, claws, and (i think) diaries weren't out yet, so no Bunyip/unicorns, Soul Split, and good alternate specs were avaliable. Back then AGS was the strongest spec weapon. The next best was DDS (inaccurate as hell) and the D Hally (only good on big monsters, not Pvp)SGS was the best healing itemZGS was the best....ummm...yyeeaa...BGS was a decent spec and the the only reliable Defense draining weapon. They were useful when they came out for their specs. (other than ZGS :rolleyes: ). But like many other items, time has drained their usefulness.Also think that without Extremes/Turmoil, the stats of weapons mattered much more, since you actually needed the accuracy to hit bosses like Grarrdor with. So they were the best for bosses at the time. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephy_ Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Wasn't there going to be update for godswords this month? Wonder what it does and how it effects the swords. For me there is no good reason to use gs since I just use a combo of whip/cls/ee/buny/claws though I still occasionally borrow zgs for sgwd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autist Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Based on what Mod French said at a event last year, I believe a Chuck Norris Godsword will come out within the next century. :) :) Cool post, I dig it very much. :P And to contribute something in to this topic... maybe? In my eyes, they(it) were outdated the second someone had the ability to summon a buniyp.Outdated as in regular training. Slayer, etc. I am not sure about the boss monsters, as I have not been interested in killing them for quite some time now.Yeah, my knowledge in that area is very sketchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 *I didn't include the Chaotic weps- but i'm sure people will mention them!* The CLS and rapier... Good prediction ;) In some places, the Chaotic weapons are not useful because they provide too little benefit to be worth the money. For example, at Pest Control, I got flammed quite a few times for using a chaotic weapon. Looking back, it WAS a waste of money, as a Godsword or even a whip would've done just as well. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kata_Phfract__the_slayer Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 godswords where ment to be like boss hunting weapons, 8 prayer bonous, high accuracy, usefull specs.for the goal of training, until chaotic rapiure, whip > everything > everything agin (ok not for str. but overall its better) ya know what i think, godswords are not too weak. everything else to is too strong. I'm a Brony and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Wasted Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think godswords are still useful in some situations, just that there are less of those situations now. AGS is still very useful while pking. SGS is useful where familiars are not allowed, like fight caves or barrows. ZGS is useful for sara gwd and BGS is useful for bosses with quite high defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knitewulf Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 In any case, AGS is still useful for edge pking. I always thought claws would be better. Better spec, and you can do back to back specs very, very fast. By comarpison, you hit one spec with AGS, and even if they were half asleep they would probably have time to food combo.Ags has a lot more potential to hit and when it does its powerful. Ags is by far better than claws in pvp. Sgs is good for players who cant spend 180m on soulsplit and don't have the skills for an EE or EEE and Bgs is used so much for pking. Zgs is the only one that I see not used daily. Ags and Bgs are used by pkers more often than claws tbh. 61,358th to 99 range on May 23rd, 2010.100,927th to 99 def on February 13th, 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Old news is old. Godswords has been outdated since Dungeoneering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stingman Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Old news is old. Godswords has been outdated since Dungeoneering Yup. Many items go out of date eventually, although some have been around and the best for a long time (like the whip). Most of the time though, something better comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Old news is old. Godswords has been outdated since DungeoneeringWell, i actually looked it up and it turns out kings ransom was released a month before god wars dungeon, making the case that because prayer use became bearable, whip has always been the better weapon for all the boss monsters, meaning that godswords have been outdated since their release- they've always been special weapons, and more or less second rate at that. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riemis Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Old news is old. Godswords has been outdated since Dungeoneering Yup. Many items go out of date eventually, although some have been around and the best for a long time (like the whip). Most of the time though, something better comes along. Pretty much sums it all up. *cough* Guthan *cough* RuneScape Revolution (Dutch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Old news is old. Godswords has been outdated since DungeoneeringWell, i actually looked it up and it turns out kings ransom was released a month before god wars dungeon, making the case that because prayer use became bearable, whip has always been the better weapon for all the boss monsters, meaning that godswords have been outdated since their release- they've always been special weapons, and more or less second rate at that. Maybe it's just me, but I do ffa Bandos Godwars sometimes and I find that my BGS + Claws works better then my friends Whip, defender and Claws. We both use peity and extreme pots with claws as our spec weapon. Godswords accuracy still come into play on the higher defense bosses. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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