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An Elitist's View on Crashing

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Actually, true high-level players don't do Bandos in teams, anyway. They solo it in non-LS worlds using a Yak, where it is far more profitable since you are getting 100% of the drops including the highly valuable Ourg Bones. TDs and Frost Dragons far eclipse the gp/hr you make doing a 4-man (or larger) bandos team.


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Actually, true high-level players don't do Bandos in teams, anyway. They solo it in non-LS worlds using a Yak, where it is far more profitable since you are getting 100% of the drops including the highly valuable Ourg Bones. TDs and Frost Dragons far eclipse the gp/hr you make doing a 4-man (or larger) bandos team.

TDs and frost dragons eclipse the gp/hr of solo bandos :rolleyes:


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Actually, true high-level players don't do Bandos in teams, anyway. They solo it in non-LS worlds using a Yak, where it is far more profitable since you are getting 100% of the drops including the highly valuable Ourg Bones. TDs and Frost Dragons far eclipse the gp/hr you make doing a 4-man (or larger) bandos team.

TDs and frost dragons eclipse the gp/hr of solo bandos :rolleyes:

 

I think solo Bandos > frost dragons (assuming you can find a world, and frost dragons are way easier) :-k , but TDs > solo Bandos for sure.


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Actually, true high-level players don't do Bandos in teams, anyway. They solo it in non-LS worlds using a Yak, where it is far more profitable since you are getting 100% of the drops including the highly valuable Ourg Bones. TDs and Frost Dragons far eclipse the gp/hr you make doing a 4-man (or larger) bandos team.

TDs and frost dragons eclipse the gp/hr of solo bandos :rolleyes:

 

I think solo Bandos > frost dragons (assuming you can find a world, and frost dragons are way easier) :-k , but TDs > solo Bandos for sure.

if you include kc+the cost of sups im pretty sure frost dragons are better.


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The KC won't take too long. It isn't very significant. Bandos is better if you can solo 20+ a trip. This pretty much means Ovl, Brews, and the best equipment. Since frost dragons are ~3m/h or so, you would need to camp them for about 7-8 hours to equal a Bandos drop. Bandos droprates for the good items are in the 100-200 kill range.


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The KC won't take too long. It isn't very significant. Bandos is better if you can solo 20+ a trip. This pretty much means Ovl, Brews, and the best equipment. Since frost dragons are ~3m/h or so, you would need to camp them for about 7-8 hours to equal a Bandos drop. Bandos droprates for the good items are in the 100-200 kill range.

 

Not to mention the ~1m gp/trip in bones/gp/other drops.


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Ourg Bones are 14k and Frost Bones are 19k. With a Yak, solo Bandos is way better than Frost Dragons, because you not only get the benefit of the bones, but also the coins/alchables/bandos drops.


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Expected solo bandos killrates and trip length are often off because of crashing.

 

It's mostly the hopping, being crashed, anti-crashing, etc. that makes Bandos generally worse than DK's or frosts imo


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frost dragons are 3m-4m an hour (maybe more) if you do it right. I've never heard of bandos being that good.


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frost dragons are 3m-4m an hour (maybe more) if you do it right. I've never heard of bandos being that good.

 

Bandos has been around 4m/h for quite awhile now.


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Your logic is this: I'm a higher level, I don't need to wait, I spent so many hours afk AZs! I spent my time training, now I want that time back by getting an empty world, where you have to spend 3 hours hopping just to get one kill, then someone else hops and takes your world. In reality, if you're not a high level, you're stuck. And yes if they were there first, then I believe it is common curteosy to hop. You don't know how long they've been searching for a world, you spent 5 minutes? And effeciency? If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more. The general rule for effiency = More effienct = Less fun.You play a game for fun, not to ruin the hopes of other people, they may not want to afk AZs all day and actually play the game how they want, however there's an obstacle, you. It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money.

 

All you're really proving is that although you have access to more areas to get your money you choose to harass other players, I'm sure you can solo Armadyl with your stats, it's empty, it's however a little too much for some level 110s, but perfect for you 'elite' level 138s. And the turn theory, the 110s get 3 kills you come along, scram them off, why can't they go to another world and say they had their turn getting 20 kills, they want a drop?

 

Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone, I don't boss hunt, because of crashing, I choose the lower money makers, due to higher levels making it hell for the medium players, you said it yourself you would hate to be crashed. Put yourself in their position, then we talk.

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It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money.

Great idea, lets make a queue for Bandos, that will solve all the problems perfectly.


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If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.

Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone


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Your logic is this: I'm a higher level, I don't need to wait, I spent so many hours afk AZs! I spent my time training, now I want that time back by getting an empty world, where you have to spend 3 hours hopping just to get one kill, then someone else hops and takes your world. In reality, if you're not a high level, you're stuck. And yes if they were there first, then I believe it is common curteosy to hop. You don't know how long they've been searching for a world, you spent 5 minutes? And effeciency? If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more. The general rule for effiency = More effienct = Less fun.You play a game for fun, not to ruin the hopes of other people, they may not want to afk AZs all day and actually play the game how they want, however there's an obstacle, you. It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money.

 

All you're really proving is that although you have access to more areas to get your money you choose to harass other players, I'm sure you can solo Armadyl with your stats, it's empty, it's however a little too much for some level 110s, but perfect for you 'elite' level 138s. And the turn theory, the 110s get 3 kills you come along, scram them off, why can't they go to another world and say they had their turn getting 20 kills, they want a drop?

 

Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone, I don't boss hunt, because of crashing, I choose the lower money makers, due to higher levels making it hell for the medium players, you said it yourself you would hate to be crashed. Put yourself in their position, then we talk.

well at bandos i u came across a 110 u'd be pretty lucky

 

everyone thier 130+

 

for armadyl you need better gear and more time in the bossroom :P but yeh it is probably better money than bandos in the longrun but thiers a reason you cant find a world for bandos while armadyl is empty usually its because people enjoy getting kills fast and kllcount fast and bandos is easier to solo in general especcially with chaotic weapons.

 

 

for tds they are getting more crowded but usually time to find an open world - i find them tedius myself lol and probably other people too just want quick fun at bandos.

 

but the thing is at tds and arma its less efficient to crash somebody

at tds they swich prayer every 310 dmg anyway at armadyl ur most likely competing with someone that has 99 range too lol =p but at bandos its liek pure who does most damage

 

also people dont do frost dragons as much because a visage is the only thing....that u can get its more like a better version of rcing all guarnateed no special drops.


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It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun.

 

The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else.

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It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun.

 

The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else.

1) Some bosses you can world hop for 8 hours straight and not an empty world

2) Actually yes, in this game 99 X IS better then 98 X.

 

 

Someone should make a video of them world hopping at bandos trying to find a free world. Maybe then people would understand.


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It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun.

 

The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else.

And, exactly, WHY is it wrong to crash? I still haven't heard a good argument other then "Its rude" which is bull crap.


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Yea this thread is getting repetitive.


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Yea this thread is getting repetitive.

 

+1 it probably should just get locked soon lol


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If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.

Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone

 

As I said not attacking anyone, you speak about being effiecent and making the most out of your time, I was wondering what you was doing here, speaking it like it wasn't a bad thing.

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If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.

Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone

 

As I said not attacking anyone, you speak about being effiecent and making the most out of your time, I was wondering what you was doing here, speaking it like it wasn't a bad thing.

 

Your original post was an attack on anyone who crashes, actually.

 

I agree that this thread is getting REALLY repetitive. Sseli, you should go through all the posts, find all of the arguments against crashing and all of the best rebuttals to those arguments, then post them in the OP so people wont keep saying "u should just be nice!11" and "why dont u just hop!1!".


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Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time.


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Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time.

 

Well I think it's more that, in ideal conditions, solo Bandos could be better. ;)


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Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time.

 

Well I think it's more that, in ideal conditions, solo Bandos could be better. ;)

 

Except for the fact that said "ideal conditions" require either risking Claws or CLS, as well as things like Fighter Hat and Fire Cape. Anything less will probably end up with you getting crashed by someone with all of that. I take Excalibur as a spec wep for solo Bandos.


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Generally bandos with steel titan is 24 kills/hr including banking, with summ potions and overloading/turmoiling kc. I don't know if that's better than yak as I don't do yak trips anymore because I cbf staying in the room for 2 hours at a time.


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