bedman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 So, I'm going for 100 dungeoneering, and the tokens are starting to accumulate. I've bought rapier, maul, rigour, gem bag, herbicide, scroll of efficiency, and arcane stream necklace already. Right now, I'm at lvl 95 dungeoneering, and I have 200k tokens again. Should I get staff or crossbow? Note that I do not ever do armadyl solo, and don't really plan to either. I sometimes do TD's, sometimes Dk's, sometimes safe pvp. I'm slightly leaning towards staff atm, since hitting high is always more fun. I will also get 5-6m more DG xp sometime in the future, so I will probably get both anyway actually. So maybe it's better to see the big picture: What should I spend 700k tokens on (taking into account the items I have already). Bonecrusher and totem really a waste of tokens? Tbh, the only alternative I see is to save some tokens for recharging, which would mean every chaotic would "cost" me 16m or so. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I'd say staff first. I plan to get one after a rapier, whenever I actually DG that much. If you have enough tokens left over, might as well get all the rewards that might be semi-useful to you in some way, even if they are overpriced imo. That's just me. If you want to save money on recharging chaotics, go ahead. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Coal bag is very useful if you ever mine. Bonecrusher isn't that bad, if you've got plenty of tokens to spare it might be worth getting - nice for slayer tasks. I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyJenny Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Coal bag is handy when mining in LRC when all gold is collapsed, and i think it will get updated to be able to fill within bank soon, so will be good for superheating too, and it's uber cheap anyway. I see you 99 herb, maybe scroll of cleansing is still something to look at even if only making extremes/ovl. Between X-bow or staff i'd get the staff, safe pvp in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Coal bag is handy when mining in LRC when all gold is collapsed, and i think it will get updated to be able to fill within bank soon, so will be good for superheating too, and it's uber cheap anyway. I see you 99 herb, maybe scroll of cleansing is still something to look at even if only making extremes/ovl. Between X-bow or staff i'd get the staff, safe pvp in mind.I got all the overloads I need (got 99 making them) so I won't buy herb scroll anytime soon, but I certainly will if I ever decide to make more. Right now, I'm thinking of getting staff first, then bonecrusher and totem, and lastly chaotic crossbow. After that I will keep the rest (should be around 200-300k) in case I die with a chaotic, or to recharge em cheaply. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wait, no scroll of life? Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wait, no scroll of life?I'm fairly sure he does have one of those. I'd get the bonecruncher for the heck of it (cleans the floor nicely) and the demon horn necklace (also for the heck of it really). In the same category, the pet is cute. The anti-poison totem is nice for pp and dks. The ring of vigour can be a nice surprise in safe pvp. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wait, no scroll of life? +1 to the totem for PP since you don't have 99 thieving yet. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Crossbow is very very good. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneFrank Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Cross bow is great for tormented demons.Cbow would be better for dks(assuming tribrid) imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wait, no scroll of life?Srry, I do have one, just forgot about it. I'm just not very keen on c'bow since I seem to never even use a normal c'bow so yeah... + a max hit boost is much more visable than a bit more accuracy. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneFrank Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wait, no scroll of life?Srry, I do have one, just forgot about it. I'm just not very keen on c'bow since I seem to never even use a normal c'bow so yeah... + a max hit boost is much more visable than a bit more accuracy.Well..if you really don't use regular c'bow ....then go ahead an get chaotic staff *i like using both so yeah ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Staff simply because you said you enjoy safe pvp. I love my staff, and got it first. The staff is simply the best in the game, no more upgrades, that's why I'd reccommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 staff then exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Certainly not spending it on xp. 200k xp is 1h work with a good team, which is not worht 18m iMO. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 cbow >> staff for safe pvp, lol. staff is pretty useless, you can barely feel the 5% difference Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The staff is BAD. There's almost no reason to ever use it over a staff of light- it's SO much more expensive for such a small bonus. Not only do you lose the significant rune saving effect, but then you have to pay recharging fees on top of that. I wouldn't use the chaotic staff for anything even if I could get one for free. Meanwhile the chaotic crossbow is a better rune crossbow. Since rune crossbow is the most common ranging weapon in most situations, you can't really go wrong by upgrading it. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Just got the staff and tried it. I must admit you barely feel the difference. Guess I will get cbow next :-) A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Just got the staff and tried it. I must admit you barely feel the difference. Guess I will get cbow next :-) might as well get a full chaotic set like me :) Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The staff is BAD. There's almost no reason to ever use it over a staff of light- it's SO much more expensive for such a small bonus. Not only do you lose the significant rune saving effect, but then you have to pay recharging fees on top of that. I wouldn't use the chaotic staff for anything even if I could get one for free. Meanwhile the chaotic crossbow is a better rune crossbow. Since rune crossbow is the most common ranging weapon in most situations, you can't really go wrong by upgrading it. Staff is not BAD. The staff is the BEST staff in the game. If you need to worry about costs while maging in pvp, then you shouldn't mage at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The staff is BAD. There's almost no reason to ever use it over a staff of light- it's SO much more expensive for such a small bonus. Not only do you lose the significant rune saving effect, but then you have to pay recharging fees on top of that. I wouldn't use the chaotic staff for anything even if I could get one for free. Meanwhile the chaotic crossbow is a better rune crossbow. Since rune crossbow is the most common ranging weapon in most situations, you can't really go wrong by upgrading it. Staff is not BAD. The staff is the BEST staff in the game. If you need to worry about costs while maging in pvp, then you shouldn't mage at all.If you're talking about safe PvP, I don't see any reason to spend an extra 15% or so for the same basic effect, and the special is quite useful when you're being piled. For dangerous PvP, the staff has a hilariously low alch value, so have fun with that. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The staff is BAD. There's almost no reason to ever use it over a staff of light- it's SO much more expensive for such a small bonus. Not only do you lose the significant rune saving effect, but then you have to pay recharging fees on top of that. I wouldn't use the chaotic staff for anything even if I could get one for free. Meanwhile the chaotic crossbow is a better rune crossbow. Since rune crossbow is the most common ranging weapon in most situations, you can't really go wrong by upgrading it. Staff is not BAD. The staff is the BEST staff in the game. If you need to worry about costs while maging in pvp, then you shouldn't mage at all.If you're talking about safe PvP, I don't see any reason to spend an extra 15% or so for the same basic effect, and the special is quite useful when you're being piled. For dangerous PvP, the staff has a hilariously low alch value, so have fun with that. If people want to spend 15m on a fury which gives just a couple stats over the glory, why neglect the 5% extra damage? The SOL's spec is useless even when you're being piled because you still will get wrecked by rangers. The ONLY time the Sols spec is helpful is when you're going into the opponents base in castle wars. Also the ccbow has a very low alch value as well, so I don't see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 If people want to spend 15m on a fury which gives just a couple stats over the glory, why neglect the 5% extra damage? The SOL's spec is useless even when you're being piled because you still will get wrecked by rangers. The ONLY time the Sols spec is helpful is when you're going into the opponents base in castle wars. Also the ccbow has a very low alch value as well, so I don't see your point.Comparing it to a fury is meaningless because a fury can be sold back. My fury costs me nothing to use, whereas runes for spells vanish as soon as you use them and you can't get anything back from them. It'd have to be a pretty large difference to be worth spending tons more on goofing around in a minigame that is guaranteed not to make you any money back. The difference between the staves won't matter for barraging because the extra damage only works on the primary target and barraging people is all about the splash damage affecting a large amount of people. You're paying way more for the same thing. SOL spec is useful because the majority of people in safe PvP games will be melee, and they'll also be piling mages. If you reduce damage from melee by half that gives you some time to get some distance between yourself and them. If you have a ton of rangers on you you're dead regardless, but that's not generally the case. Either way the spec is a small part of the argument compared to the cost of use. The crossbow is useful for PvM, where the staff just isn't. I wouldn't do dangerous PvP with a crossbow either, but dangerous PvP is the one place in the game where one could make a case for using the chaotic staff over the staff of light. All it requires is balls of steel, because 200k tokens is a lot to risk while you're in mage gear. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I'm not going to argue whether or not it's worth it. It's worth it to me, but not to you, meh. But there's no denying the Chaotic staff is the best staff in the game and better than the SOL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I say get a chaotic set -> pet -> totem. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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