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Stats would be:

 

+29 (30) stab

+28 (29) Slash

+27 (28) Crush

-3 Mage

-2 Range

 

+9 Summoning

+6 Strength

 

.007% margin of error, give or take. Numbers in parenthesis are if Jagex chooses to round up, although they round down in most cases.

 

Edit: This was calculated with dragon as Tier 8, which would place it at 50 defense, however it could possibly be Tier 9, so I'll calculate that in a bit.

 

+ 25

+ 24

+ 23

- 3

- 2

 

Guess I was wrong.

 

And I think this is the right thread.

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Stats would be:

 

+29 (30) stab

+28 (29) Slash

+27 (28) Crush

-3 Mage

-2 Range

 

+9 Summoning

+6 Strength

 

.007% margin of error, give or take. Numbers in parenthesis are if Jagex chooses to round up, although they round down in most cases.

 

Edit: This was calculated with dragon as Tier 8, which would place it at 50 defense, however it could possibly be Tier 9, so I'll calculate that in a bit.

 

+ 25

+ 24

+ 23

- 3

- 2

 

Guess I was wrong.

 

And I think this is the right thread.

I think most, if not all of us were. With the ease of getting it, this really sets them up for a hard to get(~100k tokens, maybe dg quest related) chaotic defender. It just seems as though because defenders were already so popular jagex thought they can take half a month off by introducing, effectively, nothing significant at all and calling it an update(the best way to look at it would be the book Brian wrote in a recent family guy episode).

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Stats would be:

 

+29 (30) stab

+28 (29) Slash

+27 (28) Crush

-3 Mage

-2 Range

 

+9 Summoning

+6 Strength

 

.007% margin of error, give or take. Numbers in parenthesis are if Jagex chooses to round up, although they round down in most cases.

 

Edit: This was calculated with dragon as Tier 8, which would place it at 50 defense, however it could possibly be Tier 9, so I'll calculate that in a bit.

 

+ 25

+ 24

+ 23

- 3

- 2

 

Guess I was wrong.

 

And I think this is the right thread.

I think most, if not all of us were. With the ease of getting it, this really sets them up for a hard to get(~100k tokens, maybe dg quest related) chaotic defender. It just seems as though because defenders were already so popular jagex thought they can take half a month off by introducing, effectively, nothing significant at all and calling it an update(the best way to look at it would be the book Brian wrote in a recent family guy episode).

 

Effectively, they were placed at T7.5, which would be right between Rune (T7) and Chaotic (T8?), so you could be right. Since chaotic can't be T9 because it'd be too overpowered, this would be a good placement, but still...

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T9 would be 40ish atk/def and 10 str, I guess? Pretty fun, I want one :P. Let's start badgering Jagex.

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T9 would be 40ish atk/def and 10 str, I guess? Pretty fun, I want one :P. Let's start badgering Jagex.

 

Tier 9 defender stats (With T1 being bronze,T2 iron,...,T7 Rune. and T8 either a blank spot (in theory, granite) or dragon, T9 either dragon or barrows (depending on where dragon is placed):

 

+44.536 Stab
+43.536 Slash
+42.536 Crush
-3 Mage
-2 Range

+7.625 Strength

 

This would be roughly equivalent to a rune kite and rune scim in the shield slot, as far as defense and accuracy go.

 

So unless Jagex decides to unbalance the game even more, don't expect a T9 defender for a long time.

 

Also, if anyone's curious, here are the formulas I used in my calculations.

 

Stab Bonus

.00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x-.5357142857224

 

Slash Bonus

.00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x+1.5357142857224

 

Crush Bonus

.00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x+2.5357142857224

 

Strength Bonus (more or less linear until T10 according to my model, however there are hundreds of possible models)

 

.00662878787879x^4-.13699494949506x^3+1.0009469696976x^2-2.022095959597x+1.1250000000007

 

Can you say overpowered?

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Well Jagex failed. Now, to actually get defenders in a respectable time frame, you need to do every one of those godforsaken minigames. Gl getting more then about 200 tokens per hour in them. Finally got my defender though. Stole a cyclossus to get it. Good thing people don't know how to hold on to their cyclossi. Now I am out of that disgustingly crowded place.

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So I lost a dragon defender and a cyclossus mask because of Jagex's [cabbage]ty [bleep]ing servers. Thanks [bleep]ex, thanks a lot.

 

I'm confused...what were you doing wearing them both....in a situation where you can loose them?

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So I lost a dragon defender and a cyclossus mask because of Jagex's [cabbage]ty [bleep]ing servers. Thanks [bleep]ex, thanks a lot.

 

I'm confused...what were you doing wearing them both....in a situation where you can loose them?

That, or someone stole his cyclossus kill due to lag and it dropped a mask and drag def.

 

EDIT: I know that's not how drops work, I do believe he's just looking for more reason to rage at the update :unsure:

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Well Jagex failed. Now, to actually get defenders in a respectable time frame, you need to do every one of those godforsaken minigames. Gl getting more then about 200 tokens per hour in them. Finally got my defender though. Stole a cyclossus to get it. Good thing people don't know how to hold on to their cyclossi. Now I am out of that disgustingly crowded place.

 

...Which is why I'm glad I gathered tokens beforehand. Tokens were traded in on a 1 = 1 in EACH basis. So my 10k tokens turned into 10k tokens in each game. With the multi bonus thing it will probably last me forever.

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Time to play call of duty and then come back when the place isnt so crowded

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As expected, everyone and their mother is trying to get one. My computer [cabbage]s itself when I log in, haven't been Slaying lately, so guess I'll be chilling until later.

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So I lost a dragon defender and a cyclossus mask because of Jagex's [cabbage]ty [bleep]ing servers. Thanks [bleep]ex, thanks a lot.

 

You really hated this update, didn't you.

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Well Jagex failed. Now, to actually get defenders in a respectable time frame, you need to do every one of those godforsaken minigames. Gl getting more then about 200 tokens per hour in them. Finally got my defender though. Stole a cyclossus to get it. Good thing people don't know how to hold on to their cyclossi. Now I am out of that disgustingly crowded place.

 

Didn't get this quoted for some reason. :P But what you say isn't quite true.

It's still perfectly possible to get defenders like before. However, if you want a small damage bonus, some drops noted, an increased chance of a defender drop and an increased chance of spawning a cyclossus, you will need tokens from all the guild activities.

 

Though if you mean "respectable timeframe" as "as little time spent in the cyclops area as possible" then what you said is correct.

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Interesting update, but judging by the posts so far, I'm waiting for a bit until I get a dragon defender.

 

But what's this...

 

The penguin spies have decided to mix things up and have hence become a little less predictable. They are also scoping out a couple of new areas...

 

...

 

 

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In terms of penguin points, nothing has changed, but the penguin and polar bear spies now have some weird locations. I knew it was coming, but didn't expect it so soon. Well, thanks for complicating my "job" Jagex. :evil:

 

 

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So I lost a dragon defender and a cyclossus mask because of Jagex's [cabbage]ty [bleep]ing servers. Thanks [bleep]ex, thanks a lot.

 

I'm confused...what were you doing wearing them both....in a situation where you can loose them?

That, or someone stole his cyclossus kill due to lag and it dropped a mask and drag def.

 

EDIT: I know that's not how drops work, I do believe he's just looking for more reason to rage at the update :unsure:

Server I was in crashed, it did its rollback of fifteen minutes.

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