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14-Dec-2010 - Damage Soaking and New Hitsplats


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My DK's setup now soaks 19% range and 9% melee.TAKE THAT SUPREME@@@


How did you find the soak stats?

i cant find any in the KB

You can log on and check under the equipment interface.

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Not bad- full rune(4 items) soaks 20% range 9% melee, interested to see what the max soaks for different classes are, and particularly soaks on spirit shields.

The percentage seems nice but ... then again it soaks only 200+ hits ?

Yup

Kree arra's max magic hit is 210. Let's assume that using the best equipment for him gives you 100%* soak (hell yeah ...) that will reduce the .. huge amount of .. 10 damage.


*I used 100% for the epicness of it.

Yeah but its free and for bosses that hit really hard like jad its reasonably significant.

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My DK's setup now soaks 19% range and 9% melee.TAKE THAT SUPREME@@@


How did you find the soak stats?

i cant find any in the KB

You can log on and check under the equipment interface.


Ok, thanks. I guess ill have to wait until the new updates are downloaded before i can log in to see then.
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Not bad- full rune(4 items) soaks 20% range 9% melee, interested to see what the max soaks for different classes are, and particularly soaks on spirit shields.

The percentage seems nice but ... then again it soaks only 200+ hits ?

Yup

Kree arra's max magic hit is 210. Let's assume that using the best equipment for him gives you 100%* soak (hell yeah ...) that will reduce the .. huge amount of .. 10 damage.

*I used 100% for the epicness of it.

EDIT: At least at corp with 30% ranged reduction you can soak 150 dmg .. which is actually good.

Well I'm not sure if it soaks the damage ABOVE 200 damage or starts soaking damage once you're hit above 200 (but soaks based on all damage)!

But since soak is added linearly (it seems) this means that soaking is much, much better in high values than actual defense (defense value reduces, a lot once you block most hits!)

EDIT: defenders give 0% soak....

same for lightweight outfit!

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Yeah but its free and for bosses that hit really hard like jad its reasonably significant.

It wouldnt hurt to have some armors which soak after 100 with lower %.

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Merged both the threads.

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+22% melee soak off Ahrim's hood, top and skirt. Beastly :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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won't wearing armor like robes vs melee actually incur more damage than it actually soaks because of the lower defence stats on the armor?
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A few preliminary Figures:

Bandos Chestplate: +9% Range, +4% Melee
Neitiznot Helm: +2% Melee +4% Range
Obby shield: +11% Range +5% Melee
Dragon Square: +11% Range +5% Melee
3rd Age Kite: +11% Range, +5% Melee
Rune Plate: +3% Melee, +6% Range
Rune Legs: +2% Melee, +4% Range
Rune Kite: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Rune Full Helm: +1% Melee, +3% Range
Rune Chain: +3% Melee, +6% Range
Rune Square: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Torag/Guthan/Verac/Dharok's Helm: +2% Melee, +5% Range
Torag/Guthan/Verac/Dharok's Skirt/legs: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Torag/Guthan/Dharok's Plate: +5% Melee, +10% Range
Mystic/Dagon'hai Robebottom: +2% Melee, +1% Magic
Mystic/Dagon'hai Robetop: +3% Melee, +1% Magic
SPIRIT SHIELDS: NO SOAK (except for Div/Ely's obviously)
DRAGONFIRE SHIELD: NO SOAK!

Will keep updating this list.

Looks like OBBY SHIELDS are the biggest winner out of this, I managed to get 10 before they were bought out...
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10 is the trade limit on obby shields I think, as I just bought 10 as well.

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A few preliminary Figures:

Neitiznot Helm: +2% Melee +4% Range
Obby shield: +11% Range +5% Melee
Dragon Square: +11% Range +5% Melee
Rune Plate: +3% Melee, +6% Range
Rune Legs: +2% Melee, +4% Range
Rune Kite: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Rune Full Helm: +1% Melee, +3% Range
Rune Chain: +3% Melee, +6% Range
Rune Square: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Verac's Skirt: +3% Melee, +7% Range
Torag's Plate: +5% Melee, +10% Range
Mystic/Dagon'hai Robebottom: +2% Melee, +1% Magic
Mystic/Dagon'hai Robetop: +3% Melee, +1% Magic
SPIRIT SHIELDS: NO SOAK (except for Div/Ely's obviously)
DRAGONFIRE SHIELD: NO SOAK!

Will keep updating this list.

Looks like OBBY SHIELDS are the biggest winner out of this, I managed to get 10 before they were bought out...

That soak on obby shields is really awesome, compared to other equipement:

guthans platebody (3% melee, 10% ranged, 0%),
verac skirt (3% , 7% , 0%)
slayer helmet (0% , 0% , 0%)
all boots, gloves & capes 0%

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Seems VERY strange that spirit shields and dragonfire shield are given no soak at all, or perhaps jagex is compensating for the fact that the chaotic shields suck...

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hmm they follow the 1:2 pattern so if there's 3% x and 7% y the 3% is actually 3.5 ?

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hmm they follow the 1:2 pattern so if there's 3% x and 7% y the 3% is actually 3.5 ?

guthans platebody has 3% melee, 10% range soak

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hmm they follow the 1:2 pattern so if there's 3% x and 7% y the 3% is actually 3.5 ?

guthans platebody has 3% melee, 10% range soak

well then 1:x :D ? (in that case 3.33% and 10%)

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These new armours could make Jad a bit easier.

No more 1 hit if you miss a prayer switch?

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I honestly cant believe it took Jagex THIS long to allow Duke Horacio to outright give out more anti-dragon shields. Although youve been able to drop get one and pick up for ever anyway. : ) just a thought

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Well it's not exactly high priority is it.

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These new armours could make Jad a bit easier.
No more 1 hit if you miss a prayer switch?

And Nomad as well ... The near 1 hit kill .. and 20% soaking .. that's ~-150 dmg.




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