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Wilderness and free trade vote! - Now Closed

  

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  1. 1. Should Jagex reintroduce free trade and the old Wilderness?

    • Yes.
      351
    • No.
      169
    • Indifferent ...
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I don't like the proposal. Maybe I'm just one for detail but what was given wasn't enough detail for me to vote yes on it. Yes, I would love to have free trade so I can host my own drop parties again, but I don't know if there will be restrictions or not. Since that isn't laid out on the table, I couldn't vote yes. Albeit, my vote isn't going to matter due to the overwhelming response for a yes, I still feel like I did my part in voting no. I'll receive any update that comes but I would prefer more information. That's why I didn't vote in the first phase.

 

That makes no sense, excuse the pun. You voted no because you don't know whether you'll be able to do drop partys or not? Surely you'd vote undecided if anything or just don't vote at all if the deciding factor is unknown but I'm fairly sure it's known - it will be the same as before. Might be an assumption but it isn't too big of an assumption.

 

I don't understand the differences in the polls on the main runescape page and on tipit I would of thought tipit, with a more concentrated number of experienced players would vote yes. I just have no idea why people would want a game to be more restricted than before, it's like having stabilizers on a bike when we don't need stabilizers, we can ride a bike perfectly well.

 

The only logical reason that I can see with people voting in favour of restricted trading and wild is that it will increase the motives of hackers. If that's the only reason then you shouldn't be voting, it's your responsibility to keep your account safe, if you can't do that don't play. In the 9 years of playing runescape not once has any of my 5 accounts been hijacked, common sense prevents account hijacking.


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I don't like the proposal. Maybe I'm just one for detail but what was given wasn't enough detail for me to vote yes on it. Yes, I would love to have free trade so I can host my own drop parties again, but I don't know if there will be restrictions or not. Since that isn't laid out on the table, I couldn't vote yes. Albeit, my vote isn't going to matter due to the overwhelming response for a yes, I still feel like I did my part in voting no. I'll receive any update that comes but I would prefer more information. That's why I didn't vote in the first phase.

 

I'm having a hard time understanding your logic. You're so afraid that the update might bring some type of unpleasant detail that you would rather just vote "No" and keep things the way they are? You, sir, are a Runescape conservative.

Rs is certainly not broken now , you think this is some kind of obama medical reform?

And besides why would they put wildness and free-trade 2 entirely separate subject bundle together?

 

Anyway, I am not into this plan. I do always want the old wildness kind of stuff and free trade back for years, however I must say I'm absolutely appalled at their idea of scrapping pvp worlds, bh worlds and getting rid non-pvp worlds all in one go.

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I had voted yes to the first "poll", but i am glad they put the second poll in with the option to choose. It allows everyone their opinion, and its good jagex decided to redo the voting. Either way i still voted yes, but it was a very good move on their part to put a "no" and "don't mind" option.

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Its like 88% yes right now.

 

I voted yes, but I wish Revenants would be removed completely, but I guess its something for pkers to be wary of when wandering around.

 

Also, I hope they count treasure trails as activities to be relocated.


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That makes no sense, excuse the pun. You voted no because you don't know whether you'll be able to do drop partys or not? Surely you'd vote undecided if anything or just don't vote at all if the deciding factor is unknown but I'm fairly sure it's known - it will be the same as before. Might be an assumption but it isn't too big of an assumption.

 

I don't understand the differences in the polls on the main runescape page and on tipit I would of thought tipit, with a more concentrated number of experienced players would vote yes. I just have no idea why people would want a game to be more restricted than before, it's like having stabilizers on a bike when we don't need stabilizers, we can ride a bike perfectly well.

 

The only logical reason that I can see with people voting in favour of restricted trading and wild is that it will increase the motives of hackers. If that's the only reason then you shouldn't be voting, it's your responsibility to keep your account safe, if you can't do that don't play. In the 9 years of playing runescape not once has any of my 5 accounts been hijacked, common sense prevents account hijacking.

 

Good to see you, Craven.

 

The reason the poll is not as extreme on fansites such as tip.it is because the community has an unproportional ammount of people who are frightened by Pvp, luring, bots, and all things that are "bad" or "scary"

 

If you go to any clan forum or pking community, the polls there are largely tipped in favor of Yes. So here at tip.it we have like 18% No, at pking-centered communities we have like 2% No. Those two biased populations average out to the ~8% No that we see on the RS main page.

 

Rs is certainly not broken now , you think this is some kind of obama medical reform?

And besides why would they put wildness and free-trade 2 entirely separate subject bundle together?

 

Anyway, I am not into this plan. I do always want the old wildness kind of stuff and free trade back for years, however I must say I'm absolutely appalled at their idea of scrapping pvp worlds, bh worlds and getting rid non-pvp worlds all in one go.

 

You arent even ranked in BH yet you think that BH is worthy of having worlds dedicated to it.


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Its like 88% yes right now.

It's been 88% for the last 40k people (~45% of the votes) I don't expect a big change even after 200k more.

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Glad to see they added a "yes" "no" type thing for the voting.

I voted yes.


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dont even play but voted yes. fond memories of mpking team mates at the DKs in like '05 or whatever compel me too.


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Well, now that they've given us some more specifics I'm not sure if I'm going to oppose it as strongly as before... But you can never really trust Jagex; they might turns things to P2P only or something :? I'm not going to vote for now; we'll see how things turn out.


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I voted yes. While the GE is great and all, I miss old free trade and old wildy and I'm not even a PKer/Dueler.

 

Also, I hope they count treasure trails as activities to be relocated.

 

I hope they don't.

 

Treasure Trails were more exciting IMO when we had to worry about PKers. Revs are a joke.


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You do understand why extremes and overloads were banned from PvP, right? It's got nothing to do with free trade, it's to do with combat levels. Those bans will remain until the combat level system is changed. You don't have to be a JMod to work that one out.

 

I know exactly why. The old wild had no restrictions though, and people want the old wildy. If people want the current system, they would vote no. That's my point. I never said it had anything to do with free trade, I said it had to do with how the old wilderness pking worked.

 

Anyway, I like this vote a lot more. I'll accept whatever is chosen by the outcome of this one, even though I still stand by my earlier decision.

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I read through how it would change if it were passed on the runescape news page and it said nothing about how it would stop rwt? It said there would be free trade, so how will that stop any one from doing rwt, i dont understand. They said they could stop botting, ok but how will they stop rwt? Are they going to say free trade only for people who have been playing for a certain time with no history of bans? or what?


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I read through how it would change if it were passed on the runescape news page and it said nothing about how it would stop rwt? It said there would be free trade, so how will that stop any one from doing rwt, i dont understand. They said they could stop botting, ok but how will they stop rwt? Are they going to say free trade only for people who have been playing for a certain time with no history of bans? or what?

 

Well there are two possibilities. Initially, they were saying that free trade would only be available to long term accounts with no history of black marks or bans...

 

However....now it is sounding like this may not be the case. The thing is, though, that RWT is still as rampant as it ever was.. It is occurring right now with all the restrictions in place. So why punish regular players with a clumsy system that doesnt stop RWT anyway?


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Apparently the community isn't as divided as tip.it made it out to be. 89% of 107,436 people want the vote to pass. Now no one can complain about not being able to say no. :thumbup:


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Rs is certainly not broken now , you think this is some kind of obama medical reform?

And besides why would they put wildness and free-trade 2 entirely separate subject bundle together?

 

Anyway, I am not into this plan. I do always want the old wildness kind of stuff and free trade back for years, however I must say I'm absolutely appalled at their idea of scrapping pvp worlds, bh worlds and getting rid non-pvp worlds all in one go.

 

You arent even ranked in BH yet you think that BH is worthy of having worlds dedicated to it.

 

Thats because BH only get ranked after succesful kills, only fools do DM and keep their word on it.

I personally perfer pvp in random places, not just in wild and I do have brawling gloves to prove I do pvp and won.

 

Thats not the point anyway, the point is there are people who like BH worlds and certainly a lot more who would like to keep at least 1 non-pvp world. Why would their freedom have to be stripped?

Its like removing rsc as it is pointless and because they can.

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Rs is certainly not broken now , you think this is some kind of obama medical reform?

And besides why would they put wildness and free-trade 2 entirely separate subject bundle together?

 

Anyway, I am not into this plan. I do always want the old wildness kind of stuff and free trade back for years, however I must say I'm absolutely appalled at their idea of scrapping pvp worlds, bh worlds and getting rid non-pvp worlds all in one go.

 

You arent even ranked in BH yet you think that BH is worthy of having worlds dedicated to it.

 

Thats because BH only get ranked after succesful kills, only fools do DM and keep their word on it.

I personally perfer pvp in random places, not just in wild and I do have brawling gloves to prove I do pvp and won.

 

Thats not the point anyway, the point is there are people who like BH worlds and certainly a lot more who would like to keep at least 1 non-pvp world. Why would their freedom have to be stripped?

Its like removing rsc as it is pointless and because they can.

 

Your viewpoint sure sounds nice. Too bad 90% of the population seems to agree that PvP worlds arent important and that seperating Pvp wildy from non-pvp wildy also is not important. I don't know what to tell you except that I am sorry your concerns are shared by a vast minority of the population.

 

What you are saying is "Well...some people like having pvp worlds and normal worlds. Why should we just **** all over them and get rid of that system?"

 

Well...the only reason those updates exist is because a huge portion of the population was **** all over to begin with. Your viewpoint is that stuff, in general, should not be removed. Well, free trade and the wilderness shouldn't have been removed in the first place then.


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Wilderness/Free Trade will be back. Love it or hate it.

 

I already voted YES! Along with all my other accounts/New accounts. Mad bro?

 

 

 

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So is it 100% that free trade will be back`? because i do not know what the word referendum means...

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I'm not sure Will. I would assume that with pkers usually having numerous pures and secondaries, there would be larger number of players wanting yes with numerous accounts than those wanting no. To me though, it doesn't matter which side people vote as long as they do it legitimately. Just don't try to skew the votes. 1 person wants to vote yes, 1 person votes yes once. If not, we may as well go back to phase 1.

 

How foolish could you possibly be? As far as I am concerned, if you have multiple accounts you play on, you have a right to vote on each one, because this update will affect each one. Like Will said, for those who don't support the update, they are more than welcome to vote no multiple times. If there was any rule saying it was one vote per person, in lieu of account, maybe your argument would hold some form of validity. Fortunately for all the reasonable people, it does not.

 

That being said, I have voted three times.

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Apparently the community isn't as divided as tip.it made it out to be. 89% of 107,436 people want the vote to pass. Now no one can complain about not being able to say no. :thumbup:

Well, I would argue that fansites like tipit are the 'educated' community and the mindless hoards of pures / children / noobs are just following the 'mob mentality' and going along with what everone else says without thinking about what would be best for the continuity of the game.

 

From what I've seen here and heard about similar polls on fansites, the 'educated' players seem to be 60% for, 40% against which is far from the "vast majority" Jagex was looking for.

 

I guess everyone should be considered part of the RS community. But even if you just look at RSOF, the people who use punctuation, capitals, sentence structure are generally agaisnt it and 'da ppl hu tak like dis' are for it. I'm talking in general, there are crossovers.

 

I guess this is the sort of community we get when most players are just 14 year old boys :rolleyes:

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This poll is like a 1920s American election and its awesome. Dead people voting = never used accounts voting. Its official though, there are more votes for "yes" than the average amount of people on RS at any given moment.


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I can live with all the pures and children voting, as long as I get free trade back. :mrgreen:

 

I weighed the pros and the cons before I voted yes. Most people don't believe the naysayers when they say bots will run rampant.


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