langer Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hello guys and girls. Just wondering if the introduction of the dragon defender has changed the optimal set-up to use when killing waterfiends. I know the ranks of best set-up prior to the release was something like : Chaotic Maul > SS > Z Spear > Chaotic Rapier with def > whip with def... Here are my questions, keeping in mind dragon defender is used when training with a 1 handed weapon: What's the new best set-up starting from best to worst, including 1 handed and 2 handed weapons. What are the expected XP rates from each set-up. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I think nothing has changed: crapier + def is still worse than z spear. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Anyone with actual rates? Not that I don't trust your word pulli. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Sorry, I don't have rates either, but the ddef is only slightly better than the rune def, so there's no difference in the order, really. I imagine that the increase from rune def to ddef is only a few thousand k/h. disregard that i'm an idiot. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 A few thousand k/hr? That's like, insane, lol. But yeah, the order is still much the same. The fact that the maul is slower also helps a bit with ss flashing on ct fiends. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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