TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 oh, i thought of a use for godswords: flipping the ONLY combat use in which godswords are "good" - not even the best - is BGS for nex/corp. AGS pking sucks. SGS is useful in like 1% of situations. ZGS sucks. 1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Godswords are pretty sucky but with a Zaros hilt they become one-handed and dart speed, so you better get a good supply of blades, they're going up :P. (just a suggestion I read on an earlier thread about godswords, iirc) Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Should've posted this a year or two ago. They're outdated ('cept bgs). As everyone knows, godswords are one of the best weapons in runescape,No. /thread No. They're still some of the best weapons, they're just outperformed by claws, chaotics, eee, whip etc. Still a top 10. No. maul rapier cls whip claws eee korasi dds swh vls. Err, who uses swh, vls and dds for a primary weapon? My point is that they don't suck, there are just better alternatives. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Suck is relative, and the thing with the godsword is that there are alternatives that perform better, are easier to obtain/cost less/have lower requirements. It's not like the dragon scimitar, which probably sucks but at least is the best at its level. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Should've posted this a year or two ago. They're outdated ('cept bgs). As everyone knows, godswords are one of the best weapons in runescape,No. /thread No. They're still some of the best weapons, they're just outperformed by claws, chaotics, eee, whip etc. Still a top 10. No. maul rapier cls whip claws eee korasi dds swh vls. Err, who uses swh, vls and dds for a primary weapon? My point is that they don't suck, there are just better alternatives. To be fair, you could say bronze daggers don't suck because they're just an alternative to rune daggers Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Corp vid: Zamorakian spear is better, and swh is used there as a special weapon (secondary)Brohamed: Vls as special (secondary)DDS: Spec weapon Err, who uses swh, vls and dds for a primary weapon? Alright, godswords may not be in the top 10 (I just threw that out there). But for people who don't have chaotics, they don't "suck". Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Corp vid: Zamorakian spear is better, and swh is used there as a special weapon (secondary)Brohamed: Vls as special (secondary)DDS: Spec weapon Err, who uses swh, vls and dds for a primary weapon? Alright, godswords may not be in the top 10 (I just threw that out there). But for people who don't have chaotics, they don't "suck". I ignored the word "primary" because there's no reason to include that limitation. Outside of duelling, there is no restriction that prevents you from speccing. You can't just ignore the spec aspects, or else BGS=ZGS=AGS=SGS. Even if you include the word primary, whip is still better normal (non-spec) DPS in like 90% of cases, even for lower levels. It's also cheaper, 1-handed, has less overkill loss, etc. Also, ZS, SS, KS are better in certain cases. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myu Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bgs for strength training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bgs for strength training? Dragon scim is probably better Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bgs for strength training? Dragon scim is probably betterHell, I'd put dds ahead of bgs, lol. Depends on your gear, of course, but yeah, godswords suck. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blyaunte Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bgs for strength training? Dragon scim is probably better Most definitely. BGS is WAY to slow for training strength. That said, I love my SGS for certain slayer tasks. SGS + Soul Split = Awesome! IMO ... :shades: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bgs for strength training? Dragon scim is probably better I bet dragon dagger is better. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranqe Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 i would use a sgs if i didnt have a healing fam / (e)ee and thats about it your such a mother [bleep]er. whats with all this bombchu [cabbage]? all everyone who likes this [cabbage] is stupid. ur a [bleep]ing cheater. u did that the wrong way, thats not how to get past the king zora u cheater. u suck and i wont continue watching all ur [cabbage]! videos he mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Actually, Godswords can be useful to lower levels, as when your attacking stuff with high defense, the higher accuracy and strength bonus makes it more useful then a whip. But yeah, godswords really aren't that useful, and are definitely NOT the preferred weapon of choice for high levels.If that's the case, use a chaotic maul :-) A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Should've posted this a year or two ago. They're outdated ('cept bgs). As everyone knows, godswords are one of the best weapons in runescape,No. /thread No. They're still some of the best weapons, they're just outperformed by claws, chaotics, eee, whip etc. Still a top 10. No. maul rapier cls whip claws eee korasi dds swh vls. Replace EEE with Bandos goodsword...because be honest here...once you have soul split...EEE has even less uses then BGS (which only has corp)Godswords are decent weapons, there's no way you can deny that. Just because there are weapons that are better then them, does not mean they suddenly suck altogether.Godswords are actually great bossing weapons for lower levels or people who don't have chaotics yet (depends on the boss of course), since they actually need the accuracy.PVP weapons are not used by the average player.....and please...don't ignore the word average there and post videos of Top Boss hunters, or top Pkers....People who do "pro" corp, are not average. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidesForScapers Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 oh, i thought of a use for godswords: flipping the ONLY combat use in which godswords are "good" - not even the best - is BGS for nex/corp. AGS pking sucks. SGS is useful in like 1% of situations. ZGS sucks. 1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats.Didn't mention the maul because i forgot, i have never been rushed by that either. Oh, thanks for the information on how quick it is to get the chaotic weapons after spending months to get the levels necessary to do so. Why can't a weapon be good for both stats and special attacks? Legalize baby punching. Tax and regulate it. Punch babies erry day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats. Is that a joke or willful ignorance to prove your point? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 While most claim Chaotic weaponry or Whip is better, it can be. However, people here are intrinsically forgetting both requirements and defence of enemies to make that statement. BGS is actually useful to me. For Tormented Demons. I am (was) a frequent TD-killer and I was noticing a HUGE difference in damage between BGS and Whip and DHally, both of which fall short of supplying me with the melee offence I needed at TD. DHally didn't hit. At all. Specs were usually 150 damage "behemoths" and didn't even hit 90% of the time. Whip does indeed hit rapidly fast, but when it's only hitting 30% of the time, speed loses its appeal. BGS, which hit about 60% of the time and hits high, was a welcome change.And I don't have the 78/78 Att/Str requirement for Korasi's. Let alone the 80/80 for Chaotic weapons. People are quick to jump and say: "Godswords are useless in all situations", but don't consider people like me who can't wear better alternatives nor do enough damage with the alternatives that are only better at later levels. Of course, you can retort with: "Well, train up noob" (as happened many times before), but that can be applied to EVERYTHING in this game and doesn't help one bit. Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hate how runescape always tends to become a monotonous 1 weapon-best-the-rest-can't-even-be-considered feast. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hate how runescape always tends to become a monotonous 1 weapon-best-the-rest-can't-even-be-considered feast. I love it, it's what's causing this Torva panic that I'm profiting from so much. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats. Is that a joke or willful ignorance to prove your point? I'm willing to bet you 500M that I can get a chaotic within one day, with a full night's sleep. It's easy. With the best teams you can consistently get 20 minute floors, at 200K xp each. That's 600K xp an hour. At 105 DG, I can get 130K a floor at roughly 30 minutes a floor, which is ~250K an hour. That's 8 hours. Do some research before you call someone ignorant Even for low levels, whip+defender can be comparable to, most likely better than, BGS for dps even against moderate defense. Whip is much cheaper which is a significant consideration for lower levels. _______ I just did a calculation for whip+defender vs BGS in pvp assuming level 75 stats, nooby gear. Even at ~30% accuracy, whip has a noticeable DPS advantage - 18.37 - versus BGS at 17.65. so lol. it is useless even as a non-spec wep. i guess the ONLY non-spec gs has is TD's if you're too slow to switch with whip _____ I hate how runescape always tends to become a monotonous 1 weapon-best-the-rest-can't-even-be-considered feast. It isn't, lol, in fact weapons are much more diverse than before. before it was whip was superior to everything and now you have to consider CLS/Maul/Rapier and not to mention the huge diversity in spec weapons. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats. Is that a joke or willful ignorance to prove your point? I'm willing to bet you 500M that I can get a chaotic within one day, with a full night's sleep. It's easy. With the best teams you can consistently get 20 minute floors, at 200K xp each. That's 600K xp an hour. At 105 DG, I can get 130K a floor at roughly 30 minutes a floor, which is ~250K an hour. That's 8 hours. Even for low levels, whip+defender can be comparable to, most likely better than, BGS for dps even against moderate defense. Whip is much cheaper which is a significant consideration for lower levels. Heh...you missed the point there...didn't ya? Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 [hide]1. Takes ages to get a Chaotic Weapon, whereas with godswords the only time spent is on getting the cash and buying it (you can resell and reclaim your geepees)You can get a chaotic weapon in 4 hours at 120DG. At 100 DG you can still get one in less than 10.2. Funny how i haven't seen anyone CLS rushing recently, but i'm pretty much always getting 1 item AGS rushedFunny how you don't mention the maul.3. No special attacks, therefore no bonuses at all past the decent statsThat's like saying a spatula is bad for poking things with. Spec weapons are for specs, main weapons are for stats. Is that a joke or willful ignorance to prove your point? I'm willing to bet you 500M that I can get a chaotic within one day, with a full night's sleep. It's easy. With the best teams you can consistently get 20 minute floors, at 200K xp each. That's 600K xp an hour. At 105 DG, I can get 130K a floor at roughly 30 minutes a floor, which is ~250K an hour. That's 8 hours. Even for low levels, whip+defender can be comparable to, most likely better than, BGS for dps even against moderate defense. Whip is much cheaper which is a significant consideration for lower levels.[/hide]Heh...you missed the point there...didn't ya? To be fair, the fact that chaotic weaponry is a sunk cost is irrelevant or inconsequential. It's not as if you are able to utilize the value of the weapon in addition to the combat utility of the weapon. You can only have one at a time. Moreover, your main melee weapon is not something you will sell in the short run. Also, looking at the rate at which GS are deflating in price, I would hardly say they keep their value well. At any rate, the main downsides of GS have not been refuted. GS is terrible for basically everything. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 what....?No, that's not what people are saying at all....Getting a chaotic takes longer then 10 hours to get when you're starting at level 1...you know...like EVERYONE does. You're basing the it takes to get chaotics on the level you have, and you can't do that for the general population, because the general population doesn't have anywhere near 100+ dung, so they can't get a chaotic in anything even close to a day. It takes weeks, up to a month for some people, to get their first chaotic item The godswords are good for low levels when it's all they can use. Someone with 75 attack is nearly useless at General Grarrdor when they use a whip.. Only when they get in the high 80s+ does a whip become better. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 what....?No, that's not what people are saying at all....Getting a chaotic takes longer then 10 hours to get when you're starting at level 1...you know...like EVERYONE does. You're basing the it takes to get chaotics on the level you have, and you can't do that for the general population, because the general population doesn't have anywhere near 100+ dung, so they can't get a chaotic in anything even close to a day. It takes weeks, up to a month for some people, to get their first chaotic item Yeah your first chaotic sucks but they get exponentially easier. High DG levels are available to basically anyone combat 100+ who can DG. I think it's fair to assume a base level of competency here - I'm not going to set my assumptions to be unreasonably low. Fast, efficient floors are not by definition limited to high level dungeoneers. And you're ignoring the fact that it is still fast. I just showed you the best case scenario, and it is indeed outrageously fast. If people DG with competent people and not 117, you can average 40 minutes a floor and ~60-70K xp each, or 20 hours to get a chaotic. This can still be done in 2 days. Assuming a low level makes ~500K an hour, this is still faster than getting a BGS, let alone AGS/SGS. AGAIN, all of this is irrelevant since in addition to all of these points, GS are just BAD for dps. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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