Godsword Discussion

[ghjkl]

Why would you even need to ss flash in the first place? Just turn ss on when you need to heal and turn it off when you are done. This isn't corp/bandos.

[Quyneax]

+ that using an sgs is less often possible than ss flashing, because you can ALWAYS ss flash whereas sgs doesn't work on wyverns very well, for example.

[Crossed_Body]

Why would you even need to ss flash in the first place? Just turn ss on when you need to heal and turn it off when you are done. This isn't corp/bandos.

 

Why shouldn't you? It saves you money and is very easy to do. Unless you're afking or something, you have no reason not to.

[SirIzenhime]

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To anyone supporting the Godswords....

 

I suggest you learn how to use this before arguing about DPS. Really, the numbers don't lie, but experiences do. It's a very simple fact. It's why scientists use instruments to measure things rather then just guess based on their experiences.

 

Really, doing DPS calculations is stupidly easy. If you choose to ignore them then you're simply ignorant.

 

No thanks, I'll trust my experience in this luck based game. I'll leave the calcs to the big names around here.

 

That link was the Grimy Bunyip's DPS calculator. What more of a big name do you want?

 

Really though, this just shows your ignorance and stubbornness. You might as well not have a speedometer on the car. Who trusts numbers right? I mean as long as you have a general sense of how fast you're going that's what's important right? /sarcasm/

 

If that is the way you look at life, I feel very, very sorry for you my friend.

 

As for this being a luck based game, that can be used to justify anything. In theory I could go to AZS for the first time and hit 0's for an hour out of hugely bad luck. My experience would tell me that the spot was bad exp. However, my experiences would be false and it in fact would be great exp. I'm curious, what about your experience do you base this off of? Have you done tests with different weapons versus different monsters? Or is this just another "herp derp GS hits big so it's good" argument?

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I meant I don't care enough to actually use it. I was just bored earlier and wanted to pass the time. So I had some fun.

I know I'll be mathematically wrong most of the time...You haven't realized yet I don't care?

[Aneron]

So you are saying that someone with a steel titan will have trouble surviving during slayer tasks?

 

the fact that you have a steel titan doesn't remove your need for hp, lol. are you implying that someone with a titan will have good enough gear to avoid having trouble surviving? GOOD ENOUGH GEAR, LIKE A SGS?

[TheAncient]

So you are saying that someone with a steel titan will have trouble surviving during slayer tasks?

 

the fact that you have a steel titan doesn't remove your need for hp, lol. are you implying that someone with a titan will have good enough gear to avoid having trouble surviving? GOOD ENOUGH GEAR, LIKE A SGS?

 

you mean EEE and Soul Split I think, lol.

[SirIzenhime]

So you are saying that someone with a steel titan will have trouble surviving during slayer tasks?

 

the fact that you have a steel titan doesn't remove your need for hp, lol. are you implying that someone with a titan will have good enough gear to avoid having trouble surviving? GOOD ENOUGH GEAR, LIKE A SGS?

 

I haven't had trouble surviving on ANY slayer tasks since....level 80...when I got a bunyip/excalibur

 

Now, I have soul split.

The only thing I have to work at to survive at is Dagannoth Kings.

[TheAncient]

So you are saying that someone with a steel titan will have trouble surviving during slayer tasks?

 

the fact that you have a steel titan doesn't remove your need for hp, lol. are you implying that someone with a titan will have good enough gear to avoid having trouble surviving? GOOD ENOUGH GEAR, LIKE A SGS?

 

I haven't had trouble surviving on ANY slayer tasks since....level 80...when I got a bunyip/excalibur

 

Now, I have soul split.

The only thing I have to work at to survive at is Dagannoth Kings.

 

EEE is way better than SGS at DK's. EE is arguably better too because you don't have to risk fury/chaotics.

about 1/3 of my rex can be completely soul split; 2/3 of my supremes can be completely soul split flicked. I would argue that SGS nor EEE are really that necessary to last 2+ hours on a tribrid trip.

[SirIzenhime]

So you are saying that someone with a steel titan will have trouble surviving during slayer tasks?

 

the fact that you have a steel titan doesn't remove your need for hp, lol. are you implying that someone with a titan will have good enough gear to avoid having trouble surviving? GOOD ENOUGH GEAR, LIKE A SGS?

 

I haven't had trouble surviving on ANY slayer tasks since....level 80...when I got a bunyip/excalibur

 

Now, I have soul split.

The only thing I have to work at to survive at is Dagannoth Kings.

 

EEE is way better than SGS at DK's. EE is arguably better too because you don't have to risk fury/chaotics.

about 1/3 of my rex can be completely soul split; 2/3 of my supremes can be completely soul split flicked. I would argue that SGS nor EEE are really that necessary to last 2+ hours on a tribrid trip.

 

Where did I ever say SGS at DKs?

All I said is that it's the only place where surviving takes some work for me....I use soul split so much there, even when prime is attacking me.

My last trip there was around 2 hours (6 ovl), and I used a total of 5 brews the whole time.

[Edlenchen]

I find that runescape has very little items, ending in everyone wearing the same stuff, or slightly different combinations of that stuff. So what jagex will just make a new weapon, because nothing can be perfect, every weapon needs some flaw or else everything would stop and everything would be about adding str/att/def bonuses to it (Im confusing myself in my wording). Godswords are the best they will ever be, and i don't think they should be upgraded because it would completely change the way they are seen. From being ko weapons or bossing to something different. Jagex can just make new stuff and make the game more diverse along the way.

[3nslavE]

Godwin's law u guiz

[muggiwhplar]

Quoted from squareroot's 2.5bridding guide :-w

 

Saradomin Godsword>Enchanted Excalibur>Dragon Halberd/Dragon Claws

 

You should update your guide, or else I won't give you the benefit of the doubt :P

[zotto]

SGS used to be quite nice for slayer. I have used it extensively in the past. But Soul split made it all pointless. That includes EE.

 

Better to use the spec on claws.

[Star_Fox]

SGS used to be quite nice for slayer. I have used it extensively in the past. But Soul split made it all pointless. That includes EE.

 

Better to use the spec on claws.

 

 

I'd rather get the guaranteed 200-400 lps that the EEE heals (not to mention the nice def bonus) rather then to rely on the SGSs blind luck to get some extra lp

and prayer points you don't really need. :thumbup:

 

That's why I dubbed the godswords "junk". The specials just focuses too much on how well you hit and it doesn't compromise any sort of extra accuracy to

make the special bar worth it. I went off well enough with 10 duel arena matches with just a BGS spec without any decent hits. Instead, I could

of used something like the EEE spec where I get some extra def boost and the 10 sec healing, not to mention that the korasi sword also

gives a guaranteed hit when using the special. With a dds P++, Using 4 specs would at least poison the opponent and maybe get a few hits in.

Theres just so many other alternatives that work just as well or even better than godswords in most scenarios.

[Zaaps1]

SGS used to be quite nice for slayer. I have used it extensively in the past. But Soul split made it all pointless. That includes EE.

 

Better to use the spec on claws.

 

 

I'd rather get the guaranteed 200-400 lps that the EEE heals (not to mention the nice def bonus) rather then to rely on the SGSs blind luck to get some extra lp

and prayer points you don't really need. :thumbup:

 

That's why I dubbed the godswords "junk". The specials just focuses too much on how well you hit and it doesn't compromise any sort of extra accuracy to

make the special bar worth it. I went off well enough with 10 duel arena matches with just a BGS spec without any decent hits. Instead, I could

of used something like the EEE spec where I get some extra def boost and the 10 sec healing, not to mention that the korasi sword also

gives a guaranteed hit when using the special. With a dds P++, Using 4 specs would at least poison the opponent and maybe get a few hits in.

Theres just so many other alternatives that work just as well or even better than godswords in most scenarios.

 

I thought all GS specs gave an attack and strength bonus for that hit?

[Bladewing]

no attack bonus :\

[gremmy]

SGS used to be quite nice for slayer. I have used it extensively in the past. But Soul split made it all pointless. That includes EE.

 

Better to use the spec on claws.

 

 

I'd rather get the guaranteed 200-400 lps that the EEE heals (not to mention the nice def bonus) rather then to rely on the SGSs blind luck to get some extra lp

and prayer points you don't really need. :thumbup:

 

That's why I dubbed the godswords "junk". The specials just focuses too much on how well you hit and it doesn't compromise any sort of extra accuracy to

make the special bar worth it. I went off well enough with 10 duel arena matches with just a BGS spec without any decent hits. Instead, I could

of used something like the EEE spec where I get some extra def boost and the 10 sec healing, not to mention that the korasi sword also

gives a guaranteed hit when using the special. With a dds P++, Using 4 specs would at least poison the opponent and maybe get a few hits in.

Theres just so many other alternatives that work just as well or even better than godswords in most scenarios.

 

I thought all GS specs gave an attack and strength bonus for that hit?

 

Zgs doesn't

 

Sgs does according to kb, I think?

 

Can inflict up to 10% max hit damage

 

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Bladewing]

Zgs doesn't

 

Sgs does according to kb, I think?

all of what you said is true according to the kb

 

however empirically it has been shown that all the godsword specials do increase damage.

[zotto]

SGS used to be quite nice for slayer. I have used it extensively in the past. But Soul split made it all pointless. That includes EE.

 

Better to use the spec on claws.

 

 

I'd rather get the guaranteed 200-400 lps that the EEE heals (not to mention the nice def bonus) rather then to rely on the SGSs blind luck to get some extra lp

and prayer points you don't really need. :thumbup:

 

That's why I dubbed the godswords "junk". The specials just focuses too much on how well you hit and it doesn't compromise any sort of extra accuracy to

make the special bar worth it. I went off well enough with 10 duel arena matches with just a BGS spec without any decent hits. Instead, I could

of used something like the EEE spec where I get some extra def boost and the 10 sec healing, not to mention that the korasi sword also

gives a guaranteed hit when using the special. With a dds P++, Using 4 specs would at least poison the opponent and maybe get a few hits in.

Theres just so many other alternatives that work just as well or even better than godswords in most scenarios.

 

I have never used the EEE. I don't even have one.

 

For most slayer tasks you don't even need a bunyip. It's just convenience. I sometimes forget a bunyip pouch, like for abby demons, and don't go back to get one. Because they hardly ever hit. I once had to finish 60 for a task and didn't even use SS. Just used the lobbies they drop for the meager damage they hand out.

 

 

EEE is a huge waste of spec in most cases. Defense is not needed because I have a big stash of extremes. It's not as if I can sell extreme defense pots.

 

So i just fill up with special restores and claw my way throw a slayer task.

 

healing is so 2010.

[wioneo]

EEE is a huge waste of spec in most cases. Defense is not needed because I have a big stash of extremes. It's not as if I can sell extreme defense pots.

 

The sole reason that extreme defense pots should exist in your bank is to be made into overloads.

[bedman]

I think the trend of the godsword prices says enough. I was pretty amused seeing a BGS is a measly 13m, ZGS 16, SGS 34 and AGS 55. The GS times are over, chaotic is in the house. GS's are so 2009

[zotto]

EEE is a huge waste of spec in most cases. Defense is not needed because I have a big stash of extremes. It's not as if I can sell extreme defense pots.

 

The sole reason that extreme defense pots should exist in your bank is to be made into overloads.

 

I don't bosshunt. My current stack of overloads is large enough. Too large in fact.

[Neltak]

EEE is a huge waste of spec in most cases. Defense is not needed because I have a big stash of extremes. It's not as if I can sell extreme defense pots.

 

The sole reason that extreme defense pots should exist in your bank is to be made into overloads.

 

I don't bosshunt. My current stack of overloads is large enough. Too large in fact.

Use them for slayer. :)

 

 

As for the whole gs debate...I think they're useless. When I was 80 combat stats I laughed at people using them (especially to train...they'd say they're training str, but if thats the case get a ss), and now that I'm 99's I laugh even more.

And reading the "gs's are better at bandos for lower levels" argument...really? If your lower leveled you shouldn't even be considering bandos. Paying 55M (might as well get ags for the spec) to fight a boss where you'll be crashed all the time and hardly get any kills is not a good allocation of your resources/time.