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It's like saying, "Don't use food, it takes to long to kill you!"
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Because if one turns on the protection prayer, then obviously the other will so all we know is that
it's going to make the fight more longer and tedious and seriously, who wants that? :-|

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It's like saying, "Don't use food, it takes to long to kill you!"

But food doesn't make you nearly unkillable (read: ko-able).

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Guess people's responses are typical to that of a skiller based forum, if you are pking with overheads it just takes the fun out imo, unless you are a mid level 1 def pure


Not if you're good at Hybriding.

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For edgeville pking, praying should be looked down upon. With protection prayers, people would rarely die. The chance of KO'ing someone with protection prayers is rather low and without KO'ing not many would die. Almost everyone will run when they are low on food and with protection prayers, you'll just be wasting food fight after fight because it's nearly impossible to kill. However, when you get deeper into the wilderness, while your opponent is busy typing and complaining, take advantage of the opportunity to catch him off guard with a quick special.

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prayer and summoning are parts of your combat level, but people don't want you do use them
Extremes and Overloads aren't a part of your level....everyone wants to use them in the new wildy.

Makes sense to me!


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defense is in your level.....
I can't really tell if your post was meant to argue or agree with my point........ :unsure:

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If they pray, use Korasi special.


If they KS, use pray.
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Because it cheapens combat- for a pathetic price of 44 prayer you get a 40% damage reduction, which is just way too large for the price(many people don't fight divines in pvp for a reason). It also doesn't really take that much skill to use and only really lengthens fights and makes them less attractive, thus any honorable clan bans them from being used in 1 on 1 combat situations. Only using SS/smite assures that the fight isn't pointlessly prolonged and that the best player usually wins- protection prayers don't improve in any way upon that.

It is true that the problem nowadays is somewhat different, and if it turns out that KOing/killing in 2,5 minutes(half tb) time is easily possible with people praying, praying might get legit considerations from new clans. Atleast in the old days, even when hybriding, assuming your opponent prayed, KOing or killing your opponent before they were out of food used to be impossible, thus many honorable clans(like DI) banned nonmulty praying. Nobody needs a wilderness where getting kills is next to impossible and real skill doesn't translate in success. If you pray, you more than likely aren't there to pk(praying is completely fine by non-pkers, remember).

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Because it cheapens combat- for a pathetic price of 44 prayer you get a 40% damage reduction, which is just way too large for the price(many people don't fight divines in pvp for a reason). It also doesn't really take that much skill to use and only really lengthens fights and makes them less attractive, thus any honorable clan bans them from being used in 1 on 1 combat situations. Only using SS/smite assures that the fight isn't pointlessly prolonged and that the best player usually wins- protection prayers don't improve in any way upon that.


Prayer takes skill; watch a hybrid who knows how to use overheads quickly enough to a hybrid who just leaves SS on.

Korasi sword has the highest expected damage per attack, as far as I know. It is completely free, requires just a few quests, and is still more powerful than weapons that cost 30-60M.
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Because it cheapens combat- for a pathetic price of 44 prayer you get a 40% damage reduction, which is just way too large for the price(many people don't fight divines in pvp for a reason). It also doesn't really take that much skill to use and only really lengthens fights and makes them less attractive, thus any honorable clan bans them from being used in 1 on 1 combat situations. Only using SS/smite assures that the fight isn't pointlessly prolonged and that the best player usually wins- protection prayers don't improve in any way upon that.

I think they do, someone who correctly flashes soul split + 3 protect prayers is the better player imo, but if protect prayers are banned that's another skill you don't need.

IMO that's like doing Jad but magic attacks are banned on both sides. Or something.
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because people dont want to bother hybriding

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The same reason safing in the wilderness is looked down upon. It has to do with the runescape combat system itself. It's all based on luck so you need to allow the other person a chance to get lucky while he allows you a chance to get lucky. Runescape doesn't take skill so I chuckled a little bit reading your post.

The only way I see Prayers being okay is if your tribridding, hybridding is just stupid with it. And it's not as hard as you say, in my clan we are required to ss + melee flick for corp, and I picked that up within a day.
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Runescape doesn't take skill so I chuckled a little bit reading your post.


Assuming 50% win ratio, explain how Taco Limey has gotted basically 50+ chaotic mauls and staves at 97 dungeoneering


The only way I see Prayers being okay is if your tribridding, hybridding is just stupid with it. And it's not as hard as you say, in my clan we are required to ss + melee flick for corp, and I picked that up within a day.


Try to do that against a good hybrid when you're switching 5 items, drinking pots, eating food, etc. every two seconds
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It's like saying, "Don't use food, it takes to long to kill you!"


SAFER NOOB! :rolleyes: I can't wait till pkers come back thinking it's still 2007. So glad I bothered to train mage (aka BARRAGE NOOB!)

prayer and summoning are parts of your combat level, but people don't want you do use them
Extremes and Overloads aren't a part of your level....everyone wants to use them in the new wildy.

Makes sense to me!


Heh this again. Nothing is stopping pkers from training herblore and taking advantage of it. In the spirit of the game (making the wild as dangerous it can be), Jagex better not be p**** whipped by all the whiners like last time.


This really gets down to the morals of cheating versus the morals of being forced to throw away your life [1000's of hours] to access content you enjoy

Isn't life about throwing away your life (a job) to access content you enjoy?


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prayer and summoning are parts of your combat level, but people don't want you do use them
Extremes and Overloads aren't a part of your level....everyone wants to use them in the new wildy.

Makes sense to me!


Heh this again. Nothing is stopping pkers from training herblore and taking advantage of it. In the spirit of the game (making the wild as dangerous it can be), Jagex better not be p**** whipped by all the whiners like last time.


That wasn't my point, but ok.

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because people dont want to bother hybriding

I am very sad to see such a dimwitted comment from you, particularly knowing you are a SAFE pvp prod. Really sad.

And really, praying doesn't require that much skill(and you'll only be praying against two styles, not three, as two way hybriding is much better/realistic in real pvp), and, as sayd by red eyed, there is a reason people look down upon safing aswell- there is no reason to pk if neither player wants to risk losing. Praying eliminates a big part of the risk in pvp.

Also, i think you are disregarding the honor part of it- for alot of people, it was a rule not to pray in nonmulty, just as it's a law not to kill people in real life.

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Runescape doesn't take skill so I chuckled a little bit reading your post.


Assuming 50% win ratio, explain how Taco Limey has gotted basically 50+ chaotic mauls and staves at 97 dungeoneering


Luck? Taco Limey is over rated, and over hyped. Pretty sure he runs around with a divine now anyways. Plus he dies quite a lot too, but he of course doesn't show deaths in his videos. You want to see a less douchey pker look at sparc mac, he actually has videos where he shows himself using statius and a divine, and being koed by a kid in rune, you can't say that this game isn't luck.
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because people dont want to bother hybriding

I am very sad to see such a dimwitted comment from you, particularly knowing you are a SAFE pvp prod. Really sad.

And really, praying doesn't require that much skill(and you'll only be praying against two styles, not three, as two way hybriding is much better/realistic in real pvp), and, as sayd by red eyed, there is a reason people look down upon safing aswell- there is no reason to pk if neither player wants to risk losing. Praying eliminates a big part of the risk in pvp.

wait... what? i said that people don't like it when other people use protect prayers because they don't want to bother hybriding.

i didn't say I don't like it when other people use protect prayers because I don't want to bother hybriding.

i have no problem when someone uses protect prayers :unsure:




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