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But I disagree with the people saying this whole vote was a publicity stunt and they would have released it either way ...

 

Right -- that's why they're selling T-shirts for it now. There's absolutely NO publicity involved. None! Absolutely NONE.

 

Ya know, this reminds me a LOT of "Baghdad Bob" ...

 

:rolleyes:

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But I disagree with the people saying this whole vote was a publicity stunt and they would have released it either way ...

 

Right -- that's why they're selling T-shirts for it now. There's absolutely NO publicity involved. None! Absolutely NONE.

 

Ya know, this reminds me a LOT of "Baghdad Bob" ...

 

:rolleyes:

Reminds me of the "War on terrorism".

 

But yeah, Tripsis got it right.

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How long till we get some more information do people think?

 

"On Saturday 22nd January at 3PM GMT we'll be holding a live forum Q&A session with our content team, who'll be fielding your questions on the imminent return of Free Trade and the Wilderness."

 

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But I disagree with the people saying this whole vote was a publicity stunt and they would have released it either way ...

 

Right -- that's why they're selling T-shirts for it now. There's absolutely NO publicity involved. None! Absolutely NONE.

 

Ya know, this reminds me a LOT of "Baghdad Bob" ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

I wish I'd thought of selling T-shirts.

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But I disagree with the people saying this whole vote was a publicity stunt and they would have released it either way ...

 

Right -- that's why they're selling T-shirts for it now. There's absolutely NO publicity involved. None! Absolutely NONE.

 

Ya know, this reminds me a LOT of "Baghdad Bob" ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

I thought you were just using a figure of speech, went to the homepage later, and my jaw dropped. It's like a tourist attraction now.

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But I disagree with the people saying this whole vote was a publicity stunt and they would have released it either way ...

 

Right -- that's why they're selling T-shirts for it now. There's absolutely NO publicity involved. None! Absolutely NONE.

 

Ya know, this reminds me a LOT of "Baghdad Bob" ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

/Facepalm -.-

 

The point was they wouldn't have released it either way like I've seen so many people on the RSOF and some here claiming. Not that PR wasn't involved in the decision...

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

 

I think what people are really meaning to say is that Jagex already had plans to release the Wildy and Free Trade before they even put it to a vote. The outcome of this vote was fairly predictable, so that made this whole vote safe.

 

Now if for some bizarre reason the vote hadn't favored bringing back these features, or even if it hadn't been such a decisive landslide, then yes of course Jagex would've reconsidered it, no matter if they had already begun working on the programming or not.

 

But it was pretty obvious how this was going to play out, not to mention how the poll was implemented. It's like Jagex grinned and yelled,

 

:thumbsup: "Who wants ice cream?" :thumbsup:

 

It's a rhetorical question. Everyone wants ice cream, or at least in this case, 91% of everyone.

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Why is it so important that it be called a publicity stunt?

 

IMO, if that's the case, then good on JaGex for being smart and trying to make as much money as possible.

Look at this this way, they make money, the players are happy, a win-win situation. Why all the hate? Is it that there's nothing else to hate on so you guys resort to calling them "liars" and this whole thing a "publicity stunt"?

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Why is it so important that it be called a publicity stunt?

 

IMO, if that's the case, then good on JaGex for being smart and trying to make as much money as possible.

Look at this this way, they make money, the players are happy, a win-win situation. Why all the hate? Is it that there's nothing else to hate on so you guys resort to calling them "liars" and this whole thing a "publicity stunt"?

 

Haters gonna hate. People rant every time an update is released and this one is no different.

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Why is it so important that it be called a publicity stunt?

 

IMO, if that's the case, then good on JaGex for being smart and trying to make as much money as possible.

Look at this this way, they make money, the players are happy, a win-win situation. Why all the hate? Is it that there's nothing else to hate on so you guys resort to calling them "liars" and this whole thing a "publicity stunt"?

 

Why is it so important for you not to call it what it is? If it makes you happy then go with it. Hell, buy yourself a T-shirt, to remind yourself how YOU brought the Wilderness back. But where were you three years ago when we really needed you?

 

Haters gonna hate. People rant every time an update is released and this one is no different.

 

#-o

 

Yeah I mean you're right this update is exactly like every other update they've ever done in the game just another one in a long line of updates nothing at all stands out about this one no discussion value here let's just move on already gosh next week they'll twitter about something that'll get everyone in a huff and they'll quickly forget about this update as it fades away I mean can they even really call it an update since they're really just rolling back to something we already once had in the game so it's not like it's even "new" you know what I'm saying, buddy?

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Haters gonna hate. People rant every time an update is released and this one is no different.

 

#-o

 

Yeah I mean you're right this update is exactly like every other update they've ever done in the game just another one in a long line of updates nothing at all stands out about this one no discussion value here let's just move on already gosh next week they'll twitter about something that'll get everyone in a huff and they'll quickly forget about this update as it fades away I mean can they even really call it an update since they're really just rolling back to something we already once had in the game so it's not like it's even "new" you know what I'm saying, buddy?

 

Though obvious sarcasm, it is what will happen.

 

All they have to do in the next update is make whips pink or move awkardly and poof. "What about free trade/old wildy? ".

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Yay, wildy and free trade has been confirmed at last!

 

I just hope Jagex does what they promised and make the other changes along with wildy/trade. We can't have the entrance to Corp in a middle of a PvP zone.

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Why is it so important that it be called a publicity stunt?

 

IMO, if that's the case, then good on JaGex for being smart and trying to make as much money as possible.

Look at this this way, they make money, the players are happy, a win-win situation. Why all the hate? Is it that there's nothing else to hate on so you guys resort to calling them "liars" and this whole thing a "publicity stunt"?

 

Why is it so important for you not to call it what it is? If it makes you happy then go with it. Hell, buy yourself a T-shirt, to remind yourself how YOU brought the Wilderness back. But where were you three years ago when we really needed you?

 

 

Ok, but you're saying a publicity stunt is a bad thing, while I don't exactly think so.

 

And also, 3 years ago I was actively argueing away in the Rants forum against those who thought removing FT/OW was a good thing. What were you doing?

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Yeah I mean you're right this update is exactly like every other update they've ever done in the game just another one in a long line of updates nothing at all stands out about this one no discussion value here let's just move on already gosh next week they'll twitter about something that'll get everyone in a huff and they'll quickly forget about this update as it fades away I mean can they even really call it an update since they're really just rolling back to something we already once had in the game so it's not like it's even "new" you know what I'm saying, buddy?

 

You win "Longest sentence of the year" award. :thumbup:

 

So, who's getting a Wildy Cap? :P

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

 

I think what people are really meaning to say is that Jagex already had plans to release the Wildy and Free Trade before they even put it to a vote. The outcome of this vote was fairly predictable, so that made this whole vote safe.

 

Now if for some bizarre reason the vote hadn't favored bringing back these features, or even if it hadn't been such a decisive landslide, then yes of course Jagex would've reconsidered it, no matter if they had already begun working on the programming or not.

 

But it was pretty obvious how this was going to play out, not to mention how the poll was implemented. It's like Jagex grinned and yelled,

 

:thumbsup: "Who wants ice cream?" :thumbsup:

 

It's a rhetorical question. Everyone wants ice cream, or at least in this case, 91% of everyone.

 

Except two things:

 

1. the vast majority of people on this planet are lactose-intolerant. So no, not *everybody* wants ice cream, and;

 

2. inasmuch as it was a forgone conclusion that Jagex was going to bring back the Wildy regardless of the vote tally, we've no way, whatsoever, in knowing for certain that it was an actual "overwhelming majority" who wanted it.

 

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

 

I think what people are really meaning to say is that Jagex already had plans to release the Wildy and Free Trade before they even put it to a vote. The outcome of this vote was fairly predictable, so that made this whole vote safe.

 

Now if for some bizarre reason the vote hadn't favored bringing back these features, or even if it hadn't been such a decisive landslide, then yes of course Jagex would've reconsidered it, no matter if they had already begun working on the programming or not.

 

But it was pretty obvious how this was going to play out, not to mention how the poll was implemented. It's like Jagex grinned and yelled,

 

:thumbsup: "Who wants ice cream?" :thumbsup:

 

It's a rhetorical question. Everyone wants ice cream, or at least in this case, 91% of everyone.

 

Except two things:

 

1. the vast majority of people on this planet are lactose-intolerant. So no, not *everybody* wants ice cream, and;

 

2. inasmuch as it was a forgone conclusion that Jagex was going to bring back the Wildy regardless of the vote tally, we've no way, whatsoever, in knowing for certain that it was an actual "overwhelming majority" who wanted it.

 

<_<

 

Over 90% voted to bring it back, how much more of an overwhelming majority do you want?

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

 

I think what people are really meaning to say is that Jagex already had plans to release the Wildy and Free Trade before they even put it to a vote. The outcome of this vote was fairly predictable, so that made this whole vote safe.

 

Now if for some bizarre reason the vote hadn't favored bringing back these features, or even if it hadn't been such a decisive landslide, then yes of course Jagex would've reconsidered it, no matter if they had already begun working on the programming or not.

 

But it was pretty obvious how this was going to play out, not to mention how the poll was implemented. It's like Jagex grinned and yelled,

 

:thumbsup: "Who wants ice cream?" :thumbsup:

 

It's a rhetorical question. Everyone wants ice cream, or at least in this case, 91% of everyone.

 

Except two things:

 

1. the vast majority of people on this planet are lactose-intolerant. So no, not *everybody* wants ice cream, and;

 

2. inasmuch as it was a forgone conclusion that Jagex was going to bring back the Wildy regardless of the vote tally, we've no way, whatsoever, in knowing for certain that it was an actual "overwhelming majority" who wanted it.

 

<_<

 

Over 90% voted to bring it back, how much more of an overwhelming majority do you want?

Oh, so you trust Jagex to give us an honest vote for a feature that they already planned to bring back regardless of the outcome of the vote? :unsure:

 

Sweet!

 

Say – I've got this RARE spinach roll for sale. It's worth 100M but I'll see it to you for only 1M. Ok? :shades:

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OK, I give up, call it a publicity stunt if you will, along with all of the implied animosity that comes with that, but in my opinion even if they were 99% sure that the community would respond favorably, the opposing votes still mattered. So if taking things to a vote was entirely a way of getting on the community's good side, it worked on at least one person. The T-Shirt thing is a bit silly though :razz:

 

I think what people are really meaning to say is that Jagex already had plans to release the Wildy and Free Trade before they even put it to a vote. The outcome of this vote was fairly predictable, so that made this whole vote safe.

 

Now if for some bizarre reason the vote hadn't favored bringing back these features, or even if it hadn't been such a decisive landslide, then yes of course Jagex would've reconsidered it, no matter if they had already begun working on the programming or not.

 

But it was pretty obvious how this was going to play out, not to mention how the poll was implemented. It's like Jagex grinned and yelled,

 

:thumbsup: "Who wants ice cream?" :thumbsup:

 

It's a rhetorical question. Everyone wants ice cream, or at least in this case, 91% of everyone.

 

Except two things:

 

1. the vast majority of people on this planet are lactose-intolerant. So no, not *everybody* wants ice cream, and;

 

2. inasmuch as it was a forgone conclusion that Jagex was going to bring back the Wildy regardless of the vote tally, we've no way, whatsoever, in knowing for certain that it was an actual "overwhelming majority" who wanted it.

 

<_<

 

Over 90% voted to bring it back, how much more of an overwhelming majority do you want?

Oh, so you trust Jagex to give us an honest vote for a feature that they already planned to bring back regardless of the outcome of the vote? :unsure:

 

Sweet!

 

Say I've got this RARE spinach roll for sale. It's worth 100M but I'll see it to you for only 1M. Ok? :shades:

 

You'd have to be either extremely cynical or extremely stupid to think that Jagex rigged that vote.

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Why is it so important that it be called a publicity stunt?

 

IMO, if that's the case, then good on JaGex for being smart and trying to make as much money as possible.

Look at this this way, they make money, the players are happy, a win-win situation. Why all the hate? Is it that there's nothing else to hate on so you guys resort to calling them "liars" and this whole thing a "publicity stunt"?

 

Why is it so important for you not to call it what it is? If it makes you happy then go with it. Hell, buy yourself a T-shirt, to remind yourself how YOU brought the Wilderness back. But where were you three years ago when we really needed you?

 

 

Ok, but you're saying a publicity stunt is a bad thing, while I don't exactly think so.

 

Publicity stunts aren't a bad thing, it's just that if this particular case is purely a publicity stunt, they've mistreated the democratic process. You should never assume the results of a referendum before the referendum is held. It strikes a nerve with a lot of people, me included.

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