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OK, the Zaryte Bow's probably been out long enough that someone will have found out where it truely shines. At the moment, I've heard that all it has going for it is it's an alternative to Chaotic Crossbow for the DG haters. It might also be good at TDs. Would be funny if Nex was weak to it, but that would mean no Divine/Ely/Spectral/DFS.

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I can definitely see it being a convenient alternative to ccbow and rune bolts at TDs used alongside a 2h melee weapon like the maul, since you don't have to pick up ammo. Depends on how expensive it is per shot, though.

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I can definitely see it being a convenient alternative to ccbow and rune bolts at TDs used alongside a 2h melee weapon like the maul, since you don't have to pick up ammo. Depends on how expensive it is per shot, though.

 

I always liked CLS at TDs due to being able to use a Defender. Rune Crossbow also allows for a Defender. I like Defender so much at TDs because it really helps with Darklight. I'm also like 55k tokens away from CCbow. According to RSwiki, it's about 85 coins per shot, given our high Smithing Levels.

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I can definitely see it being a convenient alternative to ccbow and rune bolts at TDs used alongside a 2h melee weapon like the maul, since you don't have to pick up ammo. Depends on how expensive it is per shot, though.

 

I always liked CLS at TDs due to being able to use a Defender. Rune Crossbow also allows for a Defender. I like Defender so much at TDs because it really helps with Darklight. I'm also like 55k tokens away from CCbow. According to RSwiki, it's about 85 coins per shot, given our high Smithing Levels.

At the risk of thread derailment, I go back and forth between using a maul when I'm lazy and keeping a ddef in my inventory only to use with darklight (because, as you said, gigantic accuracy difference), or using a rapier with deflector and barrows gloves (I TD in void regardless of strategy) when I feel like getting faster kills and clicking a lot more. If I were doing the latter, I obviously would have to stick with the ccbow, but the zaryte bow would fit in nicely with the lazy maul strategy, especially with that nice low cost/shot and not having to pick up ammo.

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Hand cannon is best at tds so the bow is only really useful for those with low firemaking.

I strongly prefer ccbow with rune arrows, having used both for many trips. Handcannon is MUCH less accurate, which means it takes longer to get the shield off, which means less time spent using your good weapon. That could be partly that I use void, though, which favors ranged bonus from the weapon a lot more than dhide. Ccbow also has the advantage of not blowing up though, one time I got unlucky and lost my handcannon and spare within 3 kills, at 95 fm.

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Hand cannon is best at tds so the bow is only really useful for those with low firemaking.

I strongly prefer ccbow with rune arrows, having used both for many trips. Handcannon is MUCH less accurate, which means it takes longer to get the shield off, which means less time spent using your good weapon. That could be partly that I use void, though, which favors ranged bonus from the weapon a lot more than dhide. Ccbow also has the advantage of not blowing up though, one time I got unlucky and lost my handcannon and spare within 3 kills, at 95 fm.

 

I prefer D Hide as hitting a 250 or so, then my Steel Titan specing 200+ is better than me hitting 320 and my steel titan specing 0 due to Protect Range.

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Hand cannon is best at tds so the bow is only really useful for those with low firemaking.

I strongly prefer ccbow with rune arrows, having used both for many trips. Handcannon is MUCH less accurate, which means it takes longer to get the shield off, which means less time spent using your good weapon. That could be partly that I use void, though, which favors ranged bonus from the weapon a lot more than dhide. Ccbow also has the advantage of not blowing up though, one time I got unlucky and lost my handcannon and spare within 3 kills, at 95 fm.

 

I prefer D Hide as hitting a 250 or so, then my Steel Titan specing 200+ is better than me hitting 320 and my steel titan specing 0 due to Protect Range.

Then karil's xbow would be better if you choose to use that logic.

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Hand cannon is best at tds so the bow is only really useful for those with low firemaking.

I strongly prefer ccbow with rune arrows, having used both for many trips. Handcannon is MUCH less accurate, which means it takes longer to get the shield off, which means less time spent using your good weapon. That could be partly that I use void, though, which favors ranged bonus from the weapon a lot more than dhide. Ccbow also has the advantage of not blowing up though, one time I got unlucky and lost my handcannon and spare within 3 kills, at 95 fm.

 

I prefer D Hide as hitting a 250 or so, then my Steel Titan specing 200+ is better than me hitting 320 and my steel titan specing 0 due to Protect Range.

Then karil's xbow would be better if you choose to use that logic.

Yup, which I've also tried but dislike because it's basically impossible to flash SS with it. Ccbow is a good mix between being likely to hit but not likely to pray block your titan, and being SSable. As for the void, the main advantage is the huge prayer bonus from void making your pray pots go further and skyrocketing your melee offense, which is worth a couple extra titan spec blocks IMO.

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I don't ss flash except when meleeing and I still usually manage to last 2 ovls unless some stupid idiot comes and starts fail luring. But then again I use a chaotic maul for my melee weapon so ss flashing just comes naturally easier then with rapier or longsword with ccbow. But for all intents and purposes the zaryte is only basically a chaotic crossbow without the ability to fire gem tipped bolts. The only real advantage is the cost, but it cost a lot to start with.

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I strongly prefer ccbow with rune arrows, having used both for many trips. Handcannon is MUCH less accurate, which means it takes longer to get the shield off, which means less time spent using your good weapon. That could be partly that I use void, though, which favors ranged bonus from the weapon a lot more than dhide. Ccbow also has the advantage of not blowing up though, one time I got unlucky and lost my handcannon and spare within 3 kills, at 95 fm.

with a void setup, which is what I presume you use.

DPS calculations indicate that ccbow will not be more than 1.17x as accurate than handcannon IF the ccbow has under 50% accuracy on TD's

if the ccbow has higher than 50% accuracy on td's, then the accuracy difference will be less than 1.17x

if the accuracy is ~63% on td's, the accuracy difference will actually be about 1.08x

 

That's really not noticeably enough to be huge.

If you actually really thought it was noticeable, it's just your mind is just playing tricks on you.

 

if you wear karils/dhide, the difference is even smaller due the inherent range bonus on that gear.

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You don't think 8-17% more accurate is huge? Okay. By my definition that's pretty significant, especially considering that the goal with the ranged weapon is just to hit 300 as quickly as you can to move on to a weapon that doesn't suck, which for both ccbow and handcannon almost always means about two hits (non-misses).

 

It's also important to take into account the advantage of using barrows gloves and deflector if your melee weapon is one handed, which in my experience helps the crossbow more than one might think (though not as much as the melee weapon, obviously)

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It's pretty beastly for arma GWD.

 

No it is not. Please stop posting [developmentally delayed]ed crap about things you have no idea about.

Chaotic crossbow not only has a higher range attack, but the ability to use a shield and the ability to fire gem tipped bolts.

There is no advantage for zaryte bow.

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I bet it has great range since it looks like a longbow.

Definitely better against mages who freeze and move out of crossbow range.

Could work well with a dbow spec switch.

 

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I bet it has great range since it looks like a longbow.

Definitely better against mages who freeze and move out of crossbow range.

Could work well with a dbow spec switch.

 

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And how many 1-itemers will be running around the wilderness with a 200-300m bow? Not only would hand cannon be more effective for that, you wouldn't need to risk your bank doing something that stupid.

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I bet it has great range since it looks like a longbow.

Definitely better against mages who freeze and move out of crossbow range.

Could work well with a dbow spec switch.

 

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He was right though, the zaryte bow isn't good at arma, especially when compared to CCbow.

Not only do you miss out on bolt specs, but you cannot use a shield.

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It's pretty beastly for arma GWD.

 

No it is not. Please stop posting [developmentally delayed]ed crap about things you have no idea about.

Chaotic crossbow not only has a higher range attack, but the ability to use a shield and the ability to fire gem tipped bolts.

There is no advantage for zaryte bow.

 

Both of them are +120 range attack.

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The ability to use a shield and the higher ranged attack are one and the same (void deflector or eagle eye kite or unholy book). It also comes with more defence :thumbup:.

 

But yeah rubies are a big deal at Nex for example.

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its entirely useless

 

hand cannon has the same firing speed, same range, and has 150 range str compared to 115

Not to mention both can degrade.. eh.

 

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