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Lol...this is annoying. Seems that jagex is trying to do everything to make money seeing as funorb crashed and went down in flame-s. The whole idea of buying accounts back is pretty dumb, seeing as now any 14yr old can just steal their parent's credit card and rebuy their account should someone legitimately report them. Mind you, I'm still gonna use the report button, seeing as now my reports have monetary value...
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You know parents can check a monthly report of exactly what was used on the credit card right? No 14 year old is going to charge random amounts of money on his parent's credit card if it's substantial...if he does his parent's would probably ban him from RS anyway.

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You know parents can check a monthly report of exactly what was used on the credit card right? No 14 year old is going to charge random amounts of money on his parent's credit card if it's substantial...if he does his parent's would probably ban him from RS anyway.

Yup. I know if I were to steal my parents' credit cards, they wouldn't just ban me from RS... They'd probably literally smash my laptop in front of me. And then, being as I am well over 14, they'd probably call the police on me :P
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Smart move I guess, but it is quite obvious that they are trying to make money off of everything..

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if it's like $500+


You can probably buy a high-end account off the RWT market for less.
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if it's like $500+


You can probably buy a high-end account off the RWT market for less.


Which is why it wouldn't be that bad of a policy. Also, it's probably safer to recover a high end account this way, rather than risk being caught for account trading and losing the money and getting the account banned anyway, or getting scammed on the rwt market.

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FWIW, with Jagex sinking this low, the next logical step is for them to sell their own gold. I mean, it's obvious they have no ethics at all anymore and are trying to milk RS for every last penny they can get from it. And what better way to make some extra money than to sell in-game currency to the lazy noobs who don't want to work for things?
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Trust me. If people can get a good account for cheap on the RWT market, they'll do that rather than begging to buy their banned account back from Jagex.

This is not to mention that Jagex has already said that they will re-adjust the stats at your leisure, and you won't know anything until you get the account, even if you paid before they altered the account. Seems like people who got banned for something more serious like botting (with the possible exception of gold farmers as the banned accounts aren't worth much to them) would rather get a better account by RWT and know the stats (even if there's a risk of being scammed) over Jagex ripping them off anyway.
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FWIW, with Jagex sinking this low, the next logical step is for them to sell their own gold. I mean, it's obvious they have no ethics at all anymore and are trying to milk RS for every last penny they can get from it. And what better way to make some extra money than to sell in-game currency to the lazy noobs who don't want to work for things?


Well aside from appealing to lazy players and possibly turning off people who have worked hard, it would COMPLETELY solve all RWT problems, getting rid of a lot of macros. There would even be less of an incentive to buy accounts, considering the value of skills goes down a lot when people could just buy the gold for them.

Probably shouldn't be done, but the thought probably has crossed Jagex's and a lot of player's minds...I think 4 years ago i would have preferred that over the removal of the wild/free trade.

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it would COMPLETELY solve all RWT problems


Uh. No it wouldn't. All it would do is open up competition between Jagex and RWT websites. Jagex would probably end up with having the RWTers offer the best deal (lower prices, etc) since Jagex is actually trying to profit off of this whereas many RWTers just sell gold on the side.

As for selling gold, Jagex could also open up a lot of competition, but unless Jagex is willing to almost give mils away for free, the RWT community would probably offer lower prices.

In the end, the ONLY way for Jagex to stop RWTing is to totally bork the game.
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it would COMPLETELY solve all RWT problems


Uh. No it wouldn't. All it would do is open up competition between Jagex and RWT websites. Jagex would probably end up with having the RWTers offer the best deal (lower prices, etc) since Jagex is actually trying to profit off of this whereas many RWTers just sell gold on the side.

As for selling gold, Jagex could also open up a lot of competition, but unless Jagex is willing to almost give mils away for free, the RWT community would probably offer lower prices.

In the end, the ONLY way for Jagex to stop RWTing is to totally bork the game.


I don't exactly know how big the profit margin is for RWT companies, but the fact that they have expenses (they need to pay their gold farmers, sweatshops cost money to operate), means that Jagex would put them out of business, considering Jagex could make prices as low as they wanted without losing money. They would probably need to balance it with trying not to ruin gameplay entirely, but lots of other RPG games do this effectively. There's no way RWT companies could compete on the same lvl of jagex if they wanted to implement this, also, most people would rather buy the gold legitimately than risk being banned, even if they somehow drove their prices low enough. You can't beat a gaming company at its own game...

Of course this should be, like, a completely last resort measure and RS would be better if this never happened.

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it would COMPLETELY solve all RWT problems


Uh. No it wouldn't. All it would do is open up competition between Jagex and RWT websites. Jagex would probably end up with having the RWTers offer the best deal (lower prices, etc) since Jagex is actually trying to profit off of this whereas many RWTers just sell gold on the side.

As for selling gold, Jagex could also open up a lot of competition, but unless Jagex is willing to almost give mils away for free, the RWT community would probably offer lower prices.

In the end, the ONLY way for Jagex to stop RWTing is to totally bork the game.

If Jagex were to sell gold for $1/mil, I doubt any RWT companies would be able to beat that price. They wouldn't be able to turn a profit like that, when you take into account the costs of memberships, internet, and the sweatshop workers who while they are paid pennies on the dollar still do have to be paid.
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You know parents can check a monthly report of exactly what was used on the credit card right? No 14 year old is going to charge random amounts of money on his parent's credit card if it's substantial...if he does his parent's would probably ban him from RS anyway.

Yup. I know if I were to steal my parents' credit cards, they wouldn't just ban me from RS... They'd probably literally smash my laptop in front of me. And then, being as I am well over 14, they'd probably call the police on me :P




Not trying to start anything but if you bought the laptop or it was given to you and they smash it then you could call the cops on them. JS. Imo they shouldn't be allowed to buy back the accounts. If they are stupid enough to get it banned they don't need that account.
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Sounds like a relatively good idea. Here are a few speculations of mine.

Someone who bots for RWTing obviously won't want to pay money to get their bots back, because it would ruin the whole point of getting money from selling items.

Someone who bots for levels would buy their account back, but I imagine their stat wipes would still be in affect, so that sounds like a solution.

Someone who got banned for scamming, offensive language, exploits or whatever, I imagine would have learned their lesson. But I imagine you can't keep buying your account back after a certain amount of offences.
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You know parents can check a monthly report of exactly what was used on the credit card right? No 14 year old is going to charge random amounts of money on his parent's credit card if it's substantial...if he does his parent's would probably ban him from RS anyway.

Yup. I know if I were to steal my parents' credit cards, they wouldn't just ban me from RS... They'd probably literally smash my laptop in front of me. And then, being as I am well over 14, they'd probably call the police on me :P




Not trying to start anything but if you bought the laptop or it was given to you and they smash it then you could call the cops on them. JS. Imo they shouldn't be allowed to buy back the accounts. If they are stupid enough to get it banned they don't need that account.


Meh, it doesn't hurt anyone, and only costs the botters RL cash. Honestly i find this a great and hilarious solution, considering I would make fun of anyone who gets their account reset and ends up paying a ton of money for it anyway. If it's done correctly with large price tags, the worst that can happen is just the status quo, people don't take advantage of the option and go buy another account off a RTW website.

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I don't understand the reasoning behind this. If you're permanently banned for breaking the rules, that should be the end of the story. It sometimes makes me question why I continue to report rule breakers when they get handed so many jail free cards.
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Heh, they should make a way for players to recognize when another player has bought their account back
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If Jagex were to sell gold for $1/mil, I doubt any RWT companies would be able to beat that price. They wouldn't be able to turn a profit like that, when you take into account the costs of memberships, internet, and the sweatshop workers who while they are paid pennies on the dollar still do have to be paid.


From what I've heard from a real life friend who RWTs, the price is already nearly that low anyway.

Jagex could very well offer such a low price that RWTers wouldn't feel like it's worth doing any longer, but on the same coin, I doubt Jagex, as a company, would as well.

Also, looking from a different perspective, if Jagex sold gold for say $0.50/mil, there could be more of a profit loss from people getting fed up and quitting the game than the money that Jagex could make from RWT. Over half the price per mil than RWT websites AND something that will keep you from getting banned by Jagex? Hell yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would bite that bait. A lot of people would quit too, not to mention that it would totally screw the game economy if Jagex spawned gold to sell to people (leading to more quitters).
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I don't understand the reasoning behind this. If you're permanently banned for breaking the rules, that should be the end of the story. It sometimes makes me question why I continue to report rule breakers when they get handed so many jail free cards.


Report them because now you get to take RL money away from them if they want their account back. And hopefully GF everything they botted.




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