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If they spell out derogatory comments in a way that would be filted (should you choose to keep it on) it is not against the rules. Should you take off your filter, then deal with the consequences of your decision.

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I see. So, you think I should just toggle the filter to "off" and let those people who hurl derogatory remarks at me go unchallenged?

 

Tell me -- do you think racism is a behavioural or inherited human trait?

 

Just wondering ...

This would be a good time to step down and let the thread die. Making a fool of yourself tbh :shame:

 

You're both evading my question:

 

Do you think other people learn racism because they see other people commit racist acts, or are they genetically oriented towards racist acts?

 

 

alright this is a fair point. but please reply to one of my posts fully because this whole thread is pissing me off n ur not even replying to meeee!!

 

i think other people do everything because of seeing other people doing it. but runescape cant stop it, or make any signifcant impact at all. i dunno, maybe this should be moved to off topic and renamed ? :unsure:

 

so maybe we should just drop it. (after you respond to my last 3 posts!!! :@)

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Now I just have to ask what your last 3 posts were >_<


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If you take anything said over the internet (and especially on a game) personally then LOL.

Really? They are probably ignorant 13 year olds. I really can't beleive anyone would take something like that to heart.

 

Let me guess -- you're a white male, with no children ...

 

That is kind of racist. And sexist.

 

Also, even if they are 13 year old, and stupid, it still hurts for most people. Some can look past it, others can not.

 

But as far as I know, if it is offensive, as in targeted against you, you report it.

 

If it is a random curse word thrown in to describe how large a fish is, then do not bother reporting it.


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Okay guys, let's just try not to drag race in here as a defining factor of why someone acts the way they do okay, i.e. let's not go into the whole nature versus nurture stuff please. Stick with the original topic.

 

If you wish to continue with your personal argument, take it off the thread and do it via PM the very least. Otherwise drop it. We have rules on these forums that ask that you please respect users for who they are regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religious beliefs, and so forth. This is an international community after all.

 

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If you personally have an issue with the new ability to turn off the filter, then don't turn it off and use the report button and ignore list if needed. No one is forcing you to turn it off. I understand that there will be people who will turn the filter off and throw a number of offensive words out there, including racial slurs. You are more than welcome to report them as it still falls under the offensive language rules set by Jagex. If you do not wish to tolerate any sort of foul language, keep the filter on. I'm Chinese and I'm female, and way before this update came about I was already getting racially and sexually driven insults. This is nothing new for me and I will continue to use the ignore and report buttons. Don't let the immature kids beat you up with words, and don't let your status victimize you.

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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

 

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.


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So if I say babuska, nignog, and [racist term] I can still get reported?


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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

 

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.

 

Jagex could have it so those that are required to have quick-chat (is it under 13 year olds?) can't turn the filter off. Over 13s will have heard it all before anyway, it's their parents responsibility to monitor what they do on the internet so I don't think it's Jagex problem.

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I guess the full blown racism you are describing would come from a learned experience.

 

So, if people "learn" racism (as well as possibly inherit some aspects of it), then why would anyone allow such acts to go unchallenged when it is within their power to affect change?

 

Do you honestly think that people should be allowed to make such degrading remarks about other people in front of impressionable minds and, therefore, continue the pattern of behaviour?

 

@blyaunte: I swear, you remind me of amitoz. The question you're asking is nature or nurture, and the answer is never one or the other, but rather a mix of both.

 

I agree but then, how does one "counter" racism? Do we sit idly by and just allow it to happen because "it's just a game"?

 

i think other people do everything because of seeing other people doing it.

 

Then if we allow people to continue making racist remarks unchallenged, do you not by your silence condone their racism?

 

Blyaunte if I was you I would leave the filter to do its job and report any player that offends you. If you wanted to go further you could set public chat to friends as well as private. The measures are there, and have always been there, to help you.

 

That is the problem though. The filter is, technically, there to protect *my* sensibilities but what about the sensibilities of other impressionable people?


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I guarantee though some people will not be able to handle this update and will probably abuse it.

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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

 

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.

 

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If people are using offensive language REPORT them. That's what you can do about it. If children as saying such language on here then that's the parents responsibility and if the parents are worried then they should monitor what their children are doing. Games are not there to babysit children, same with any other form of entertainment.

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How did the situation change now that there is an option to turn off the filter? Saying offensive things is still against the rules.


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I guess the full blown racism you are describing would come from a learned experience.

 

So, if people "learn" racism (as well as possibly inherit some aspects of it), then why would anyone allow such acts to go unchallenged when it is within their power to affect change?

 

Do you honestly think that people should be allowed to make such degrading remarks about other people in front of impressionable minds and, therefore, continue the pattern of behaviour?

 

@blyaunte: I swear, you remind me of amitoz. The question you're asking is nature or nurture, and the answer is never one or the other, but rather a mix of both.

 

I agree but then, how does one "counter" racism? Do we sit idly by and just allow it to happen because "it's just a game"?

 

i think other people do everything because of seeing other people doing it.

 

Then if we allow people to continue making racist remarks unchallenged, do you not by your silence condone their racism?

 

Blyaunte if I was you I would leave the filter to do its job and report any player that offends you. If you wanted to go further you could set public chat to friends as well as private. The measures are there, and have always been there, to help you.

 

That is the problem though. The filter is, technically, there to protect *my* sensibilities but what about the sensibilities of other impressionable people?

 

 

yeah i thought that for a while, i remember going on a carnival video on youtube and it was full of [bleep]ed up comments!! so i replied to everyone and got flame or no response and figured, hell man its the internet. if someone is racist in real life then ill [bleep]ing start on them, have done, will do.

 

but rs is a land of nerds an social outcasts, dooo not care what goes on. even if all of rs became horribly racist it wouldnt impact on real life.

 

please reply to the fact that ive actually been punched twice and mugged by a gang of arabs cos im white.

 

becuse u made a horrible generalisation in assuming ive never got [cabbage] cos im white.

 

also to the fact that you can jus change your character.

 

or that ive never had any racist remarks an my characters been black for tiiiiiiiimme.

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If people are using offensive language REPORT them. That's what you can do about it. If children as saying such language on here then that's the parents responsibility and if the parents are worried then they should monitor what their children are doing. Games are not there to babysit children, same with any other form of entertainment.

 

 

This is, of course, not a cue to be disrespectful of or towards your fellow players, as all RuneScape rules still apply. If you find swearing offensive, please do leave the profanity filter on. Equally, please do not try to circumvent the filter. Also, even turned off, we will still be filtering out URLs (though we have plans to add a whitelist of 'safe' sites), and any chat that contains your password will still be completely blocked.

 

So how exactly does Jagex define "disrespectful?"

 

Also what's to stop people turning their filters off and reporting anyone who swears?


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If people are using offensive language REPORT them. That's what you can do about it. If children as saying such language on here then that's the parents responsibility and if the parents are worried then they should monitor what their children are doing. Games are not there to babysit children, same with any other form of entertainment.

 

 

This is, of course, not a cue to be disrespectful of or towards your fellow players, as all RuneScape rules still apply. If you find swearing offensive, please do leave the profanity filter on. Equally, please do not try to circumvent the filter. Also, even turned off, we will still be filtering out URLs (though we have plans to add a whitelist of 'safe' sites), and any chat that contains your password will still be completely blocked.

 

So how exactly does Jagex define "disrespectful?"

 

Also what's to stop people turning their filters off and reporting anyone who swears?

 

Nothing, just like nothing that could be done if people reported people for doing it before the update. If someone is making racist or seriously offensive comments then report them, just as you would have done before this update.

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How did the situation change now that there is an option to turn off the filter? Saying offensive things is still against the rules.

 

If this is true then why is there a language filter in the first place now.


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inb4 people get banned for swearing, but not in an offensive way.

 

 

That said, I totally agree that this is a great update, and have been wanting it for years.

I'm just concerned that people are going to turn their filter off, and then start reporting everyone they see using a word that would normally get blocked. Knowing Jagex... there will be a lack of communication to the team that looks are reports, and people will start getting muted all over for no real reason.

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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

 

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.

 

Filter is automatically on. They'll have to manually disable it. As to that, it's up to the parents' discretion to decide for their child. Not you, not me, not anyone else. Unless Jagex wants to redirect things back on an elementary school level of security.


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If people are using offensive language REPORT them. That's what you can do about it. If children as saying such language on here then that's the parents responsibility and if the parents are worried then they should monitor what their children are doing. Games are not there to babysit children, same with any other form of entertainment.

 

 

This is, of course, not a cue to be disrespectful of or towards your fellow players, as all RuneScape rules still apply. If you find swearing offensive, please do leave the profanity filter on. Equally, please do not try to circumvent the filter. Also, even turned off, we will still be filtering out URLs (though we have plans to add a whitelist of 'safe' sites), and any chat that contains your password will still be completely blocked.

 

So how exactly does Jagex define "disrespectful?"

 

Also what's to stop people turning their filters off and reporting anyone who swears?

 

Nothing, just like nothing that could be done if people reported people for doing it before the update. If someone is making racist or seriously offensive comments then report them, just as you would have done before this update.

 

Before the update if you just said "[racist term]" it would show up in chat as "******". You couldn't get reported since there was no way to prove that you said a racial slur.

 

Now you can say "[racist term]" and it shows up as "[racist term]", thus you get reported.


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If people are using offensive language REPORT them. That's what you can do about it. If children as saying such language on here then that's the parents responsibility and if the parents are worried then they should monitor what their children are doing. Games are not there to babysit children, same with any other form of entertainment.

 

 

This is, of course, not a cue to be disrespectful of or towards your fellow players, as all RuneScape rules still apply. If you find swearing offensive, please do leave the profanity filter on. Equally, please do not try to circumvent the filter. Also, even turned off, we will still be filtering out URLs (though we have plans to add a whitelist of 'safe' sites), and any chat that contains your password will still be completely blocked.

 

So how exactly does Jagex define "disrespectful?"

 

Also what's to stop people turning their filters off and reporting anyone who swears?

 

Nothing, just like nothing that could be done if people reported people for doing it before the update. If someone is making racist or seriously offensive comments then report them, just as you would have done before this update.

 

Before the update if you just said "[racist term]" it would show up in chat as "******".

 

Now you can say "[racist term]" and it shows up as "[racist term]", thus you get reported.

 

surely not if there your mate..

 

its like if you say [bleep]ing hell that was mad and someone reported you then you wouldn't be banned :)

 

blyaunte - please reply to me this is doing my head in, i hate haivng a one way argument/ conversation wateva..

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Moreover, what about terms like "[racist term]" or when people use "[racist term]" in a non-racist way? On the Internet many people call each other that in order to mean "bro", regardless of skin color.

 

Also, also, what about obscure slurs? Hmm?

 

Babuska

Nignog

Harborbomber

 

How will Jagex know all of these slurs?


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With the profanity filter turned off, you will see exactly what other players type in their chat, warts and all. Note that, as you have made a concious choice to turn off your profanity filter, you should not report other players simply for using the odd bit of bad language. You can and should still report other players who are being discriminatory, bullying, threatening, lewd, salacious, soliciting, etc, regardless of whether or not they are using bad language! It may be worth familiarising yourself with our rules on innapropriate language and behaviour, but, basically, so long as you are responsible and respectful to other players, you have nothing to worry about.

 

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Yeah, that's the problem.

 

Who's to define what "offensive" is? Some people think the F-word or [kitty] are offensive. How will Jagex differentiate between "bad words" and "offensive words"?


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